--- Log opened Wed Jul 12 00:00:47 2017 00:45 -!- mabel [~mabel@71-35-181-85.tukw.qwest.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:03 -!- mabel [~mabel@71-35-181-85.tukw.qwest.net] has quit [Changing host] 01:03 -!- mabel [~mabel@unaffiliated/jacco] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:07 -!- augur [~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:11 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:12 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:14 < nmz787> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1huy6VH_zCw 01:14 < nmz787> .title 01:14 < yoleaux> Crating and Transporting a FIB - YouTube 01:14 < nmz787> enjoy a bunch of unedited gopro footage 01:15 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:15 < chris_99> neat. have you managed to play with it yet 01:17 -!- mabel is now known as lezzy 01:23 -!- emeraldgreen [~user@92-100-245-51.dynamic.avangarddsl.ru] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:27 -!- augur [~augur@208.90.213.226] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:30 -!- CRM114 [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:32 -!- augur [~augur@208.90.213.226] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:35 -!- augur [~augur@208.90.213.226] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:43 < nmz787> chris_99: not yet... slowly getting the garage ready 01:46 -!- Douhet [~Douhet@unaffiliated/douhet] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:47 < chris_99> ah cool, good luck 02:05 -!- Douhet [~Douhet@unaffiliated/douhet] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:06 -!- augur [~augur@208.90.213.226] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:22 -!- augur [~augur@208.90.213.226] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:26 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@dslb-188-103-078-193.188.103.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:27 -!- augur [~augur@208.90.213.226] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 02:53 -!- y0no [~y0no@2001:bc8:212d:201:ff01::a] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:29 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@dslb-188-103-078-193.188.103.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 03:37 -!- helleshin [~talinck@cpe-174-97-113-184.cinci.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:50 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-113-55-42.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:53 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:17 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@110.141.79.110] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:17 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@110.141.79.110] has quit [Changing host] 04:17 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:50 -!- strages [uid11297@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ygvsxdoxejeweqdn] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 05:05 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:14 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@110.141.79.110] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:14 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@110.141.79.110] has quit [Changing host] 05:14 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:29 < kanzure> ughrrhrheqierjq81adabvhut 05:40 -!- Joshchamp_ [sid159459@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rhortjszfhkpkwtd] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:41 -!- Joshchamp [sid159459@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pzsbzenpdmorppqx] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:41 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:41 -!- thxffo [SMD@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-ybqzloflqexnawhn] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:41 -!- Joshchamp_ is now known as Joshchamp 05:41 -!- thxffo [SMD@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-rjeaswwklxgxgagf] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:44 -!- danfox [~danfox@vulpinedesigns.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:44 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:44 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@dslb-188-103-078-193.188.103.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:50 -!- danfox [~danfox@vulpinedesigns.co.uk] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:53 < abetusk> nmz787, where are you? 05:57 < kanzure> he's stuck inside the youtubes 06:04 < kanzure> ebowden: falkvinge is the glorious leader of the pirate party https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Falkvinge 06:13 -!- danfox [~danfox@vulpinedesigns.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:14 -!- danfox [~danfox@vulpinedesigns.co.uk] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:29 < ebowden> What is it you so dislike about him? 06:34 < kanzure> he is an idiot; have you tried talking wih him? 06:35 < kanzure> https://www.reddit.com/user/falkvinge 06:43 < ebowden> Is bitcoin suddenly unable to be used? 06:43 < ebowden> I had not heard this news. 06:44 < ebowden> Though I had heard that it was annoying to use, and has been for a long time. 06:45 < ebowden> Is this some big, privileged news he's breaking or is it just nonsense kanzure? 06:47 < ebowden> kanzure, how much of a super duper special coder is this guy who dropped out of phys? 06:50 < andytoshi> ebowden: falkvinge is just being an idiot, if you read the details of what he's saying it's all factually wrong 06:51 < andytoshi> it is quite annoying when some celebrity shows up spreading lies in an attempt to destroy something you've spent so much time and energy building 06:51 < kanzure> falkvinge is propagating various conspiracy theories about bitcoin. it's total nonsense. 06:53 < ebowden> Why? 06:53 < kanzure> are you a conspiracy theorist? 06:54 < kanzure> it's generally not a good use of time...... 06:54 < kanzure> not sure what you're asking. 06:54 < andytoshi> why would falvinge be doing this 06:54 < kanzure> he's a politician. it's what they do. 06:54 < andytoshi> though "because he's a conspiracy theorist" is a fairly explanatory answer.. 06:54 < ebowden> Well, I believe watergate, a non-fictitious conspiracy theory. 06:55 < ebowden> Not about to say "Nixon dindu nuffin" just so a label can't be applied to me. 06:55 < kanzure> alright you know what i regret mentioning any of this 06:56 < kanzure> don't play with politicians, folks. 06:56 < ebowden> Jesus, I am cringing reading this guy's posts. 06:56 < andytoshi> ebowden: ignoring whatever labels you want, falkvinge has been consistently repeating falsehoods and defamatory statements about bitcoin, blockstream and friends of mine 06:57 < andytoshi> as it happens, these lies are popular with people who latch onto conspiracy stories, regardless of how much evidence is against them 06:58 < kanzure> to answer your question, bitcoin is still usable-- just not infinitely freely usable-- everything's fine. 06:58 < kanzure> (nor was it ever infinitely freely usable, btw) 06:58 < andytoshi> it's significantly more usable actually 06:59 < ebowden> andytoshi, a whole mountain of evidence against can look like a whole mountain of evidence for to someone who does not understand how to evaluate any of it, especially if they think that they do. 06:59 < andytoshi> ebowden: yes :( 07:02 < ebowden> A tutor in one of my earlier uni classes was a 911 conspiracy theorist. 07:03 < ebowden> *A tutor in one of my earlier uni classes was a 9/11 conspiracy theorist. 07:03 < kanzure> ebowden: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/ai/The%20evolution%20of%20superstitious%20and%20superstition-like%20behaviour.pdf 07:04 * andytoshi pokes his head in on rbtc to see if there's anything that'd be fun to engage again.. 07:04 < andytoshi> oh, no, it's exactly the same stuff on the front page that i spent hours debunking six months ago 07:05 < poppingtonic> why does it take so long for people to learn? 07:05 < ebowden> What did you debunk? 07:06 < andytoshi> poppingtonic: on that specific sub i think most participants are being paid to play characters who never change their views 07:06 < poppingtonic> Or, why does it take so long for reasonable debunkings to propagate? 07:06 < andytoshi> debunkings do not propagate because they've downvoted into the ground 07:06 < ebowden> lol 07:06 < ebowden> What things did you debunk? 07:06 < poppingtonic> andytoshi: they get paid to spread the notion that everyone else is confused? 07:07 < andytoshi> poppingtonic: that segwit is damaging to bitcoin, increases complexity, allows coins to be stolen (all false), that bitcoin is slower (the opposite is true), that blockstream is somehow orchestrating all of bitcoin through adam back's twitter account 07:08 < andytoshi> ebowden: mostly technical stuff about segwit, lightning, schnorr signatures, the powers that miners have within the system, the point of public verifiability 07:08 < ebowden> So, things that the people don't understand. 07:09 < ebowden> I expect these debunkings to be entirely ineffective. 07:10 < andytoshi> ebowden: if you're curious https://0bin.net/paste/ZAgOmnN8dVSJuzSs#LauPpDk1mT8KTiaeqHtD8aoPEB4Jp3m2L14Un87cLbd not all of these are debunkings, some are just random links that i show to new users to demonstrate what kind of sub they're in 07:10 < andytoshi> ebowden: so, the false claims are very technical, i don't understand why those stick while the equally technical counterpoints do not 07:11 < ebowden> Because people want to believe the conspiracy, whether or not they understand it. 07:11 < andytoshi> *shrug* well, they can have at it then i guess 07:17 < ebowden> They feel clever, they feel they have secret knowledge not available to others. When you explain why they are wrong with your own knowledge, technical things above their heads, debunkings they don't understand, they feel stupid. People do not like being made to feel stupid. 07:17 < ebowden> andytoshi, ^ 07:17 < andytoshi> ebowden: i hear you. otoh, you have this sub full of crazy shit and then people like rick falkvinge (who is very popular because of his support for the pirate bay, and therefore perceived as smart) saying stuff like this 07:18 < andytoshi> and IRL, when people say "i hear X crazy thing, is that true?", they're very receptive to explanations and counterpoints 07:18 < andytoshi> so while posting on rbtc is not going to change anybody's mind who is actually posting there, there is maybe some benefit for curious readers- 07:24 < ebowden> Yes, it will actually benefit some andytoshi, indeed I have seen people on the road to holocaust denial converted by someone just reading out facts. If I ever write a profile on Falkvinge, one of the traits will be "Perceived as smart.". 07:31 -!- lezzy [~mabel@unaffiliated/jacco] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:45 -!- lezzy [~mabel@71-35-181-85.tukw.qwest.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:46 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:01 -!- preview_ [~preview@118-92-220-128.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:01 -!- preview [~preview@2407:7000:842d:4000::2] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:24 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 08:25 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:29 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@dslb-188-103-078-193.188.103.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:31 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@dslb-188-103-078-193.188.103.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:39 < ebowden> http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/1497280708-20170612.png 08:43 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:44 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:47 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:47 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:1074:bc00:8d2b:b652:8b27:ec72] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:47 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:1074:bc00:8d2b:b652:8b27:ec72] has quit [Changing host] 08:47 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:54 < andytoshi> http://dilbert.com/strip/2017-07-12 09:04 -!- emeraldgreen [~user@92-100-245-51.dynamic.avangarddsl.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 09:09 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-113-55-42.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:15 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@dslb-188-103-078-193.188.103.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:37 < kanzure> maaku: down to just me and MPEG-LA on the upcoming call, the others dropped out. 09:38 < danfox> oh, how fun 09:38 < danfox> Good luck 09:38 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:44 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:48 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@dslb-188-103-078-193.188.103.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:14 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:17 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@dslb-188-103-078-193.188.103.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 10:18 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 10:33 -!- nmz787_i [ntmccork@nat/intel/x-lphwkrwujyafbuln] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:34 < nmz787_i> kanzure: did you see the part of the youtube video where I drop the FIB? 10:34 -!- augur [~augur@hostelling-international.static.monkeybrains.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:34 < nmz787_i> and the seller's face lights up 10:34 < kanzure> nmz787_i: i skipped over that segment actually :) 10:34 < kanzure> i noticed the seller was there. i did not want to watch that. 10:34 < nmz787_i> hehe 10:35 < nmz787_i> it was not too bad really 10:35 < kanzure> .title http://cen.acs.org/articles/95/i28/Writing-human-genome.html 10:35 < yoleaux> Writing the human genome | July 10, 2017 Issue - Vol. 95 Issue 28 | Chemical & Engineering News 10:35 < nmz787_i> abetusk: NW Oregon 10:37 < nmz787_i> here is the moment... just after I declare "it looks perfect" https://youtu.be/1huy6VH_zCw?t=1251 10:39 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@unaffiliated/malvolio] has quit [Quit: Malvolio] 10:40 < nmz787_i> the guy I work part-time with sometimes seemed to think it wouldn't be a problem... seeing how heavy/bulky the things are, he didn't think it was likely that I'd mess up any finely adjusted parts 10:40 < nmz787_i> I guess thinking that tese items wouldn't likely have much mass in them 10:40 < nmz787_i> these* 10:43 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:44 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@unaffiliated/malvolio] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:45 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:46 -!- emeraldgreen [~user@188.227.115.178] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:46 -!- emeraldgreen [~user@188.227.115.178] has left ##hplusroadmap [] 10:46 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@dslb-188-103-078-193.188.103.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:47 -!- emeraldgreen [~user@188.227.115.178] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:49 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:1074:bc00:8d2b:b652:8b27:ec72] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:49 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:1074:bc00:8d2b:b652:8b27:ec72] has quit [Changing host] 10:49 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:50 -!- jtimon [~quassel@102.30.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:52 -!- emeraldgreen [~user@188.227.115.178] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 10:56 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:02 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:07 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-113-55-42.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:08 -!- preview_ [~preview@118-92-220-128.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:09 -!- preview [~preview@2407:7000:842d:4000::2] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:10 -!- emeraldgreen [~user@188.227.115.178] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:23 -!- NikopolSohru [~NSohru@185.107.83.8] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:30 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:32 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@dslb-188-103-078-193.188.103.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:34 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:1074:bc00:8d2b:b652:8b27:ec72] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:34 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:1074:bc00:8d2b:b652:8b27:ec72] has quit [Changing host] 11:34 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:42 -!- lezzy [~mabel@71-35-181-85.tukw.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:57 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@dslb-188-103-078-193.188.103.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:59 -!- augur [~augur@hostelling-international.static.monkeybrains.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:59 -!- NikopolSohru [~NSohru@185.107.83.8] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:09 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:13 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:16 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@dslb-188-103-078-193.188.103.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:21 -!- strages [uid11297@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-sltlbfqtibtmnytc] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:43 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:44 -!- Guest31235 is now known as Solgriffin 12:45 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@dslb-188-103-078-193.188.103.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:57 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:00 -!- CRM114 [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 13:03 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@dslb-188-103-078-193.188.103.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:04 -!- jtimon [~quassel@102.30.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:09 -!- brujo_biologica [~brujo@50-248-185-14-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:20 < kanzure> greetings. 13:21 < brujo_biologica> hola 13:21 < brujo_biologica> ive been here before under the guise of mzo 13:21 < kanzure> oh. 13:21 < brujo_biologica> im glad im back 13:21 < danfox> A clever disguise 13:21 < danfox> XD 13:21 < kanzure> you weren't someone i banned were you 13:21 < brujo_biologica> nope 13:21 < brujo_biologica> new irssi config 13:22 < brujo_biologica> yall hated the underscores in my nick 13:22 < brujo_biologica> didnt pay my server bill so i lost my data :( 13:23 < brujo_biologica> __mz_o was my last nick kanzure 13:23 < danfox> This is one of the reasons I self-host - at least my data is still on the hard drives even if the electric gets cut off 13:23 < brujo_biologica> we'd conversed a handful of times 13:23 < brujo_biologica> danfox: yea im self-hosting now 13:23 < brujo_biologica> sometimes its just convenient to pay for a server elsewere w/ a static ip 13:23 < danfox> I pay for a static IP net connection 13:24 < danfox> the ISPs are a bit iffy about providing them on residential connections, but they can and will, with enough persuasion 13:24 < brujo_biologica> my office does to. so im taking advantage by sneaking a SBC on the net ;) 13:25 < brujo_biologica> "enough persuasion" is the key phrase lol 13:26 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:26 < danfox> In my case, the persuasion was just getting past the wall of idiots known as first line tech support 13:27 < danfox> I should know, I used to work in first line tech support, for a mobile phone company 13:28 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:1074:bc00:8d2b:b652:8b27:ec72] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:28 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:1074:bc00:8d2b:b652:8b27:ec72] has quit [Changing host] 13:28 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:28 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:30 < brujo_biologica> oo i feel bad for you 13:30 < brujo_biologica> you HAD to read what was given to you right? 13:30 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:30 < danfox> I had some variation allowed. I wrote some of the scripts myself. 13:31 < danfox> Besides, keeping up some conversational chatter whilst trying to find the right info article is kind of useful 13:31 < danfox> It's more reassuring than hold muzak 13:32 < brujo_biologica> youre a good person 13:32 < brujo_biologica> i used to work at gaydioshack 13:33 < brujo_biologica> when they sold phones 13:33 < brujo_biologica> the first line of carrier tech support was awful and i would almost always ask to speak to a manager 13:35 < danfox> That and the company which ran the call centre, whilst being abominable and selling customers' data, was still better at customer service work ethic principles than its competitors. 13:35 < danfox> We were shit but we were good shit. 13:35 < danfox> XD 13:36 -!- poppingtonic1 [~brian@105.165.227.4] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:37 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:39 < brujo_biologica> theres not much that isnt shit these days :P 13:39 -!- poppingtonic1 [~brian@105.165.227.4] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:44 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:47 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:52 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@dslb-188-103-078-193.188.103.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:54 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:00 -!- jtimon [~quassel@102.30.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:12 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:12 < kanzure> "CRISPR-Cas encoding of a digital movie into the genomes of a population of living bacteria" http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nature23017.html 14:12 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/seth_shipman/status/885195521547259906 14:12 < yoleaux> Happy to finally get to show this: We recorded a movie into living cells with CRISPR https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8ONjPHLr6s http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nature23017.html (@seth_shipman) 14:13 < kanzure> "Here we use the CRISPR-Cas system to encode the pixel values of black and white images and a short movie into the genomes of a population of living bacteria" 14:13 < kanzure> ehh. 14:14 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/antonioregalado/status/885174137207095297 14:14 < yoleaux> "We're not involved in this." -- Berkeley spokesman on CRISPR patent pool idea. (@antonioregalado) 14:15 < kanzure> "Targeted DNA methylation in vivo using an engineered dCas9-MQ1 fusion protein" https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms16026 14:15 < kanzure> "Here we describe a facile and convenient approach for efficient targeted DNA methylation by fusing inactive Cas9 (dCas9) with an engineered prokaryotic DNA methyltransferase MQ1. Our study presents a rapid and efficient strategy to achieve locus-specific cytosine modifications in the genome without obvious impact on global methylation in 24 h. Finally, we demonstrate our tool can induce tar... 14:15 < kanzure> ...geted CpG methylation in mice by zygote microinjection, thereby demonstrating its potential utility in early development." 14:16 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@110.141.79.110] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:16 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@110.141.79.110] has quit [Changing host] 14:16 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:40 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:46 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:1074:bc00:8d2b:b652:8b27:ec72] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:46 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:1074:bc00:8d2b:b652:8b27:ec72] has quit [Changing host] 14:46 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:06 < danfox> excellent 15:13 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:15 -!- Darius [~quassel@66-215-89-229.dhcp.psdn.ca.charter.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:16 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:1074:bc00:8d2b:b652:8b27:ec72] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:16 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:1074:bc00:8d2b:b652:8b27:ec72] has quit [Changing host] 15:16 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:35 -!- marciogm [~xxxIdent@unaffiliated/marciogm] has quit [Ping timeout: 251 seconds] 15:35 -!- altersid [~pa@ns305903.ip-91-121-222.eu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:35 -!- altersid [~pa@ns305903.ip-91-121-222.eu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:36 -!- altersid is now known as Guest2687 15:37 -!- marciogm [~xxxIdent@unaffiliated/marciogm] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:40 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:44 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:46 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:02 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:05 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:1074:bc00:8d2b:b652:8b27:ec72] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:05 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:1074:bc00:8d2b:b652:8b27:ec72] has quit [Changing host] 16:05 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:11 -!- augur [~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:23 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:30 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:33 -!- augur [~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:34 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:01 -!- augur [~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:04 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:09 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:1074:bc00:8d2b:b652:8b27:ec72] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:09 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:1074:bc00:8d2b:b652:8b27:ec72] has quit [Changing host] 17:09 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:15 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@dslb-188-103-078-193.188.103.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 17:32 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:37 -!- lezzy [~mabel@ip-64-134-60-14.public.wayport.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:38 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:55 < kanzure> 9410rjdifk01daofqwoqoqeoroorot20anfv 17:58 < danfox> Some excellent keyboard mashing 18:01 < kanzure> yes... keyboard mashing... 18:01 < emeraldgreen> kanzure how do I become a successful blockchain entrepreneur ? (^: 18:01 < emeraldgreen> >tfw was being hired to write a solidity smart contract for 25$/hr 18:02 < kanzure> well first of all, raise your damn prices. 18:04 < emeraldgreen> kanzure is 70$/hr enough? 18:04 < kanzure> dunno. 18:05 < emeraldgreen> my current day job pays me ... 12.5$/hr, and i can afford pretty lavish living here 18:05 < kanzure> what do you do for dayjob? 18:05 < emeraldgreen> angular 2/fullstack webdev 18:05 < kanzure> for $12.50/hour? i don't believe you. 18:06 < kanzure> i can't hire fullstack for less than like $150/hour minimum. 18:06 < emeraldgreen> well it's russia, the prices are lower here 18:06 < kanzure> ah yes because the internets don't connect? 18:06 < emeraldgreen> avg salary is 500$, you see, I get 2000$ and it's quite a lot here 18:07 < emeraldgreen> kanzure dunno why, perhaps culture mismatch with wester buyers, also language barriers 18:07 < emeraldgreen> *western 18:07 < kanzure> you seem to be speaking pretty good russian right now 18:07 < emeraldgreen> perhaps I'm not too good at selling myself for a good price, I should strive more 18:07 < kanzure> there you go, much better. 18:08 < kanzure> would you work on my machine learning project for $15/hour 18:09 < emeraldgreen> I would, if it's possible at my spare time (not fulltime just yet) 18:09 < emeraldgreen> also I accept crypto 18:09 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:09 < kanzure> hmmm. 18:10 < emeraldgreen> my present work is remote with flexible schedule, so I can afford to work more (tbh this work isn't demanding) 18:10 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:12 -!- yashgaroth [~yashgarot@2606:6000:cd4d:3300:51f3:3b25:7b6d:16a1] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:13 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:14 < emeraldgreen> // sleepy 18:16 < emeraldgreen> kanzure I'm open to collaboration, ping me anywhere and we could try collaborating on some projects, maybe in testing mode for now, we'll see how it works out 18:16 < emeraldgreen> there is this old email 18:19 -!- jtimon [~quassel@102.30.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:21 -!- lezzy [~mabel@ip-64-134-60-14.public.wayport.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:30 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-113-55-42.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:39 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:40 < kanzure> .title https://arxiv.org/abs/1707.03743 18:40 < yoleaux> [1707.03743] Learning Macromanagement in StarCraft from Replays using Deep Learning 18:44 < emeraldgreen> supervised pre-training for RL is becoming popular 18:44 < emeraldgreen> OpenAI popularised this approach, seems to work ok 18:59 < nmz787> kanzure: do you have your AI thing packaged in a way that others can easily give it a whirl, easily tweak and re-whirl? 18:59 < nmz787> kanzure: I should be getting a 22 core machine together in the next few weeks, so uh, lemme know how much RAM to think about buying 19:01 -!- nmz787_i [ntmccork@nat/intel/x-lphwkrwujyafbuln] has left ##hplusroadmap [] 19:05 < kanzure> nope not yet. 19:32 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@unaffiliated/malvolio] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 19:34 -!- jtimon [~quassel@102.30.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:36 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:36 -!- Darius [~quassel@66-215-89-229.dhcp.psdn.ca.charter.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:56 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@unaffiliated/malvolio] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:03 < nmz787> kanzure: do you know how much RAM it is using? 20:03 < nmz787> though it sounds fun to take a peek at the code, I guess I have too many other things I owe you work on 20:04 < kanzure> mostly my speech rec stuff is GPU-heavy. 20:04 < kanzure> i am sure there's likely to be RAM bottlenecks but so far i haven't run into any of them. 20:42 -!- jtimon [~quassel@102.30.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:46 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@unaffiliated/malvolio] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 21:17 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@unaffiliated/malvolio] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:19 -!- hehelleshin [~talinck@cpe-174-97-113-184.cinci.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:23 -!- helleshin [~talinck@cpe-174-97-113-184.cinci.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 22:31 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@unaffiliated/malvolio] has quit [Quit: Malvolio] 22:38 -!- yashgaroth [~yashgarot@2606:6000:cd4d:3300:51f3:3b25:7b6d:16a1] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:02 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:05 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:10 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:17 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@110.141.40.86] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:17 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@110.141.40.86] has quit [Changing host] 23:17 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:35 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:36 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:1054:a100:90ff:7c95:7080:3596] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:36 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:1054:a100:90ff:7c95:7080:3596] has quit [Changing host] 23:36 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:39 -!- lezzy [~mabel@71-35-181-85.tukw.qwest.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:40 -!- sachy [~sachy@nat.brmlab.cz] has left ##hplusroadmap [] 23:41 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:54 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:59 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:59 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@1.136.97.38] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:59 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@1.136.97.38] has quit [Changing host] 23:59 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap --- Log closed Thu Jul 13 00:00:48 2017