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03:59 < kanzure> http://forum.openscad.org/ANN-pyopenscad-spline-surface-generator-td21838.html
04:07 < kanzure> http://bramcohen.com/2017/07/17/acute-sets
04:17 < kanzure> "Nucleotide-time alignment for molecular recorders" https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5432193/
04:18 < kanzure> "Engineered AAVs for efficient noninvasive gene delivery to the central and peripheral nervous systems" https://www.nature.com/neuro/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nn.4593.html
05:08 < adlai> re: regulating ai - one possible approach is just to add penalties to damage caused by negligent design of computer systems, which has the bonus of also covering non-"ai" irresponsibility
05:08 < adlai> don't ban anything yet unbanned, just make it clear that you get tried for your code's fuckup
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06:21 < kanzure> adlai: so superintelligent offspring damage to world economy is not your problem? i'm game for this.
06:22 < kanzure> (biological offspring)
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06:52 < JayDugger> adlai, how well would your suggestion apply to extant code?
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09:00 < darsie> If we found an alien signal and it sent us a digital alien, should we run it on a computer? It could be friendly or enslave or kill us.
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09:19 < kanzure> how would you know the architecture to run it on?
09:37 < archels_> .title http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120458/
09:37 < yoleaux> Virus - Schiff ohne Wiederkehr (1999) - IMDb
09:37 < archels_> haha, the bot must be hosted in Germany
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10:19 < darsie> kanzure: It would have to be some description of the code and data to be implemented on some general computer or description of a computer to build.
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10:19 < kanzure> but...
10:19 < kanzure> i think you mean self-bootstrapping.
10:20 < darsie> The data would arrive via radio or laser signal.
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10:21 < darsie> The code colud be described in basic programming elements, variables, arrays, if/then, loops ...
10:22 < darsie> operators
10:22 < adlai> kanzure: if the slippery slope leads us there, so be it. i could live with parents getting some sort of reprecussion for raising belligerent superintelligent idiots
10:23 < kanzure> which thing are you replying to
10:23  * adlai would naturally assume any alien intelligence optimistically beaming clones across the universe would build atop of some core like the original LISP
10:23 < adlai> 13:21:59         kanzure | adlai: so superintelligent [biological] offspring damage to world economy is not your problem? i'm game for this.
10:24 < kanzure> so, what about grandparents
10:24 < kanzure> i'm curious how slippery your slope really is
10:25  * adlai doesn't believe in metamorality, if our grandchildren are so stupid that they blame us for it, we'd probably be better off either waging filicide or accepting the consequences of la mala educacion
10:27 < adlai> last minute save, turning my position into some semblance of sanity: past a certain 'maturity', the offspring is no longer its [grand]parent's responsibility
10:27 < adlai> but that would have to apply equally for the synthetic superintelligence
10:44 < kanzure> right.
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11:10 < nmz787> sup
11:11 < nmz787> true story: kill -9 doesn't work on plants
11:15 < altersid> 3
11:20 < nmz787> If flag indicates error, display the location and exit.
11:20 < nmz787> whoops
11:20 < nmz787> not sure where I copied that from
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16:20  * nmz787 yawn
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16:28 < nmz787> chemistry mentioned in microcontroller datasheet! Arrhenius equation in "3.1.2 Data Retention Time" http://www.ti.com/lit/an/slaa334a/slaa334a.pdf
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17:05 < nmz787> what bot logs this room? yoleaux ?
17:22 < kanzure> https://www.facebook.com/david.zindell.9/posts/1798266743520845
17:22 < kanzure> nmz787: gnusha
17:23 < nmz787> hmm, too bad they aren't the same bot, would be easier to get running in other rooms, right?
17:23 < nmz787> kanzure: "Sorry, this content isn't available right now
17:23 < nmz787> "
17:23 < nmz787> re facebook
17:35 < kanzure> something about "the idiot gods" (new book) and an orca? not sure.
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21:52 < kanzure> hmph
22:00 < nmz787> took my diffusion vacuum pump off the bottom of my SEM... some black on the "christmas tree"... any ideas if it /needs/ to come completely clean?
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