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[~augur@198-27-215-123.static.sonic.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:45 -!- kanzure [~kanzure@unaffiliated/kanzure] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:46 -!- pasky [~pasky@nikam.ms.mff.cuni.cz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:48 < kanzure> wat "If you were k-lined, it was a mistake, our apologies" 03:51 -!- jtimon [~quassel@143.29.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:54 < cluckj> geez 04:07 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/timoreilly/status/893915988374175744 04:07 < yoleaux> A #scifoo theme: "Machine learning is just amateur neuroscience." says Reardon, then @geochurch explains why wetware won't stand still. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGfT2USV0AAgxd5.jpg (@timoreilly) 04:07 < kanzure> tim o'reilly pimping for biology. 05:02 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:842d:4000::3] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:11 -!- jtimon [~quassel@143.29.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:11 -!- jtimon 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https://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v539/n7628/full/nature20104.html 06:01 < kanzure> that's.. really important. 06:04 < kanzure> "oocyte stem cells" 06:04 < kanzure> "Oocyte stem cells: fact or fantasy?" https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Suzannah_Williams/publication/315833887_Oocyte_stem_cells_Fact_or_fantasy/links/59325f89a6fdcc89e7af1ccc/Oocyte-stem-cells-Fact-or-fantasy.pdf 06:18 -!- jtimon [~quassel@143.29.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:19 -!- jtimon [~quassel@143.29.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:25 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/petertoddbtc/status/898154176043241472 06:25 < yoleaux> "Bitcoin Mining in Space Isn't Practical Yet, But It Is Hard Sci-Fi" W/ my sci-fi short on neutrino-using mining. https://petertodd.org/2017/bitcoin-mining-space-hard-sci-fi (@petertoddbtc) 06:30 < kanzure> .wik orion's arm 06:30 < yoleaux> "Orion's Arm (also called the Orion's Arm Universe Project, OAUP, or simply OA) is a multi-authored online science fiction world-building project, first established in 2000 by M." — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orion%27s_Arm 06:30 < kanzure> huh, why aren't the current primary authors listed? 06:34 < kanzure> looks like it's still todd drashner probably. 06:37 -!- jtimon [~quassel@143.29.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 06:44 -!- thundara [~thundara@104.236.109.149] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:00 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@jaboja.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:12 -!- Gurkenglas_ [~Gurkengla@dslb-178-000-218-087.178.000.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:01 -!- abetusk_ is now known as abetusk 08:35 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 09:07 -!- Gurkenglas_ [~Gurkengla@dslb-178-000-218-087.178.000.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 09:10 -!- emeraldgreen [~user@92.222.68.248] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 09:24 -!- emeraldgreen [~user@92.222.68.248] 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[~quassel@143.29.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:57 < fenn> fuck you google 11:57 < fenn> there's nothing wrong with surf 11:57 < fenn> i should be able to solve captchas with any javascript capable browser at least, come on 11:57 < kanzure> "both george church's group at harvard and bitoech startup molecular assemblies in san diego have demonstrated the ability to synthesize dna strands in a controlled manner using [enzymatic synthesis]" 12:00 < fenn> todo: liberate data from bullshit websites like researchgate 12:10 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@unaffiliated/malvolio] has quit [Quit: Malvolio] 12:11 -!- augur [~augur@198-27-215-123.static.sonic.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:21 -!- Stskeeps [~cvm@boat.tspre.org] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:21 -!- Stskeeps [~cvm@boat.tspre.org] has quit [Changing host] 12:21 -!- Stskeeps [~cvm@unaffiliated/stskeeps] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:23 -!- Stskeeps [~cvm@unaffiliated/stskeeps] has left ##hplusroadmap [] 12:23 -!- 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timeout: 240 seconds] 13:31 < kanzure> hmmph 13:35 < kanzure> "Ninety-nine independent genetic loci influencing general cognitive function include genes associated with brain health and structure (N = 280,360)" http://www.biorxiv.org/content/early/2017/08/17/176511 13:35 < kanzure> that paper might have more authors than loci. 13:36 < fenn> .wik fountain codes 13:36 < yoleaux> "In coding theory, fountain codes (also known as rateless erasure codes) are a class of erasure codes with the property that a potentially limitless sequence of encoding symbols can be generated from a given set of source symbols such that the original source symbols can ideally be recovered from any subset of the encoding symbols of size …" — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fountain_codes 13:36 < kanzure> "Among many novel genes associated with general cognitive function were SGCZ, ATXN1, MAPT, AUTS2, and P2RY6. Within the novel genetic loci were variants associated with neurodegenerative disorders, neurodevelopmental disorders, physical and psychiatric illnesses, brain structure, and BMI. Gene-based analyses found 536 genes significantly associated with general cognitive function; many were ... 13:36 < kanzure> ...highly expressed in the brain, and associated with neurogenesis and dendrite gene sets. Genetic association results predicted up to 4% of general cognitive function variance in independent samples. There was significant genetic overlap between general cognitive function and information processing speed, as well as many health variables including longevity." 13:37 -!- Gurkenglas_ [~Gurkengla@dslb-178-000-218-087.178.000.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:37 < fenn> 4% is tiny 13:38 < kanzure> 4% is higher than most of the previous studies i think 13:38 < fenn> it's still tiny 13:39 < fenn> you might as well say the nature vs nurture question has been answered, as far as variance in cognitive function 13:40 < kanzure> except that hereditary studies have shown otherwise 13:40 < kanzure> (including twin studies) 13:40 < fenn> did they find more than 4% heritability? 13:41 < kanzure> hell yeah 13:41 < fenn> does heritability include epigenetic state? 13:41 < fenn> like, they may not find any heritability going back more than 2 generations 13:42 < kanzure> "A 1994 article in Behavior Genetics based on a study of Swedish monozygotic and dizygotic twins found the heritability of the sample to be as high as 0.80 in general cognitive ability; however, it also varies by trait, with 0.60 for verbal tests, 0.50 for spatial and speed-of-processing tests, and 0.40 for memory tests. In contrast, studies of other populations estimate an average ... 13:42 < kanzure> ...heritability of 0.50 for general cognitive ability.[18]" 13:43 < kanzure> "some studies of twins reared apart (e.g. Bouchard, 1990) find a significant shared environmental influence, of at least 10% going into late adulthood.[19]" 13:44 < fenn> yeah well 10% is also tiny 13:44 < fenn> so nobody knows what causes variance in cognitive function 13:44 < kanzure> brain damage 13:45 < fenn> maybe 13:45 < fenn> twins are born from the same mother, maybe something happens in the womb environment or during birth 13:46 < fenn> ideally we'd have identical twins born from different mothers 13:46 < fenn> this shouldn't be too hard to arrange 13:48 < kanzure> i'm stuck trying to decide if i should prefer it to be heritable or not. 13:48 < kanzure> if you could force it to be environmental then you could replicate the environment (possibly more easily than genome engineering stuff) 13:48 < kanzure> genome is sorta set-and-forget. 13:48 < kanzure> which has its advantages. 13:48 < fenn> i find all this very strange. i'd expect some common variants in a small number of genes to be responsible for the bulk of variance in cognitive ability 13:48 < fenn> but nobody has been able to find them 13:49 < kanzure> worth pointing out that if you compare dog to human, and human to human, you get very different outcomes in terms of brain function comparison quotient. 13:49 < kanzure> we simply don't have enough sufficiently dumb people 13:49 < fenn> if it's due to maternal environment (womb etc) then you'd expect heritability to be found in genes relating to womb development and placenta etc 13:50 < fenn> what about monkeys 13:50 < fenn> they are pretty much dumb people 13:50 < kanzure> with monkeys there's a few tens of million years of evolutionary divergence to also account for :-( 13:55 -!- juri_ [~juri@205.166.94.162] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:17 -!- nmz787 [~nmz787@bryan.fairlystable.org] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:17 < nmz787> weird, I've been disconnected for hours... not sure why irssi didn't reconnect 14:18 < nmz787> and here I thought everyone was just super-busy today 14:18 < nmz787> anyone here going to attend "biohack the planet"? 14:18 -!- nmz787 [~nmz787@bryan.fairlystable.org] has quit [Client Quit] 14:19 -!- nmz787 [~nmz787@bryan.fairlystable.org] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:22 < kanzure> when and where? 14:22 < nmz787> idk, Josiah Zayner's house or something 14:22 < nmz787> Friday night and Saturday of weekend after next 14:23 < nmz787> (probably at a more formidable location) 14:23 -!- nmz787 [~nmz787@bryan.fairlystable.org] has quit [Client Quit] 14:23 -!- nmz787 [~nmz787@bryan.fairlystable.org] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:25 -!- nmz787 [~nmz787@bryan.fairlystable.org] has quit [Changing host] 14:25 -!- nmz787 [~nmz787@unaffiliated/nmz787] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:25 -!- nmz787 [~nmz787@unaffiliated/nmz787] has quit [Client Quit] 14:25 -!- nmz787 [~nmz787@bryan.fairlystable.org] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:26 < nmz787> so when I typed /connect irc.freenode.net in this window (hplusroadmap) I got back on... but my other tabs/windows for other rooms didn't re-join 14:26 < nmz787> and when I try the same connect there, nothing happens 14:30 < kanzure> depends on your auto-join settings 14:30 < kanzure> look into irssi layout saving 14:33 < nmz787> hrmm 15:01 -!- nmz787 [~nmz787@bryan.fairlystable.org] has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:22 < kanzure> rip nmz787 15:39 < fenn> https://fourthievesvinegar.org/our-mission "free medicine for everyone" 15:40 < fenn> warrant canary seems a bit ... unwarranted 15:42 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@jaboja.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:44 < fenn> the actual data is hidden for some reason https://fourthievesvinegar.org/files/torrent_package.zip 15:44 < kanzure> hmm very weird that the darpa polymerase tethering stuff is not being shown to me. considering it's partly my proposal. 15:45 < fenn> they took er jobs 15:46 < fenn> i dont get it, what's controversial about making aids medicine 15:50 < kanzure> hmm. metreon cascade is also part of BRAIN initiative. 15:50 < kanzure> i think there is marblestone connection there somewhere. 15:51 < kanzure> ".. With the pivot, Johnson is effectively jumping on an opportunity created by the Brain Initiative, an Obama-era project which plowed money into new schemes for recording neurons. That influx of cash has spurred the formation of several other startups, including Paradromics and Cortera, also developing novel hardware for collecting brain signals. As part of the government brain project, the ... 15:52 < kanzure> ...defense R&D agency DARPA says it is close to announcing $60 million in contracts under a program to create a “high-fidelity” brain interface able to simultaneously record from one million neurons (the current record is about 200) and stimulate 100,000 at a time." 15:56 < kanzure> anyone got a checklist for selling out to darpa? 16:00 < fenn> ok this fourthievesvinegar thing is a waste of time, ignore plz 16:11 -!- Douhet [~Douhet@unaffiliated/douhet] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:19 -!- emeraldgreen [~user@92.222.68.248] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:26 < kanzure> i should propose a 10 meter wide inkjet printhead. yep. 16:26 < kanzure> that oughta do it. 16:26 < fenn> the gigaprinter 16:27 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@jaboja.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:27 < fenn> 1 billion nozzles 16:27 < kanzure> yes 16:28 < fenn> 30nm spacing is pretty tight 16:33 < kanzure> "It takes 200 μs to fire all 50 chambers, resulting in a print speed of up to 250,000 drops per second" (from a paper in 206 16:33 < kanzure> *2006) 16:33 < kanzure> where's the >100 million drops per second stuff? 16:34 < kanzure> http://global.kyocera.com/news/2012/0306_niku.html 16:34 < kanzure> "... ejecting ink up to 40,000 times per second (at 40kHz drive frequency) from each ink nozzle, resulting in approximately 100 million drops per second from a printhead with 2,656 nozzles" 16:35 < kanzure> "The company will initially produce 1,000 units per month (total for both types combined) and will gradually increase production volume" 16:37 -!- nmz787 [~nmz787@bryan.fairlystable.org] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:37 -!- nmz787 [~nmz787@bryan.fairlystable.org] has quit [Changing host] 16:37 -!- nmz787 [~nmz787@unaffiliated/nmz787] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:37 < kanzure> this is very clearly an engineering problem that can be solved with optimization and stuff. 16:37 < kanzure> i strongly doubt that the limits of inkjetting have actually been hit yet. 16:39 < fenn> you think this is going to be faster than light directed synthesis? 16:39 < nmz787> fenn: we all know ink travels the fastest of any particle in the universe 16:43 < kanzure> light directed synthesis doesn't work right now. 16:43 < nmz787> ugh, I wish irssi had it's config setup based in JSON 16:54 -!- jnplx [~jnplx@h57.89.213.151.dynamic.ip.windstream.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:54 < kanzure> i am not finding any research on high-throughput inkjet printhead stuff. seems to all be in patents. why? 16:55 -!- emeraldgreen [~user@92.222.68.248] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:01 -!- emeraldgreen [~user@92.222.68.248] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 17:02 -!- augur [~augur@198-27-215-123.static.sonic.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:05 -!- emeraldgreen [~user@92.222.68.248] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:14 -!- emeraldgreen [~user@92.222.68.248] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 17:16 -!- psztorc [~psztorc@ool-45726efb.dyn.optonline.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:29 < kanzure> psztorc: hi 17:30 < kanzure> psztorc: today in the scrollback is some mumbling about "age of ems" and emulations http://gnusha.org/logs/2017-08-16.log 17:32 -!- emeraldgreen [~user@188.227.115.178] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:46 -!- augur [~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:48 -!- augur [~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:48 -!- augur [~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:49 -!- emeraldgreen [~user@188.227.115.178] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:00 -!- UnknownRogue [~UnknownRo@137.103.100.228] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:01 -!- UnknownRogue [~UnknownRo@137.103.100.228] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:04 -!- augur [~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:11 -!- jtimon [~quassel@143.29.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:12 -!- jnplx [~jnplx@h57.89.213.151.dynamic.ip.windstream.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:20 < kanzure> .wik semiconductor research corporation 18:20 < yoleaux> "Semiconductor Research Corporation (SRC) is an American technology research consortium. A non-profit founded in 1982 and based in North Carolina, USA," — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semiconductor_Research_Corporation 18:22 < kanzure> https://www.src.org/program/grc/semisynbio/ 18:23 < kanzure> https://www.src.org/program/grc/semisynbio/semisynbio-consortium-roadmap/ 18:24 < kanzure> "1 kg of DNA has a maximum theoretical storage capacity of ~2 * 10^18 Mbit without error correction, which is equivalent to the total projected world’s storage requirement in 2035-2040 [i] [ii]." 18:24 < kanzure> pssst nsa, here is how you really do package capture 18:32 -!- augur [~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:45 -!- augur [~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:52 -!- augur [~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:02 -!- Darius [~quassel@66-215-89-229.dhcp.psdn.ca.charter.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:17 < fenn> scientific notation should never refer to a unit with SI prefixes 19:18 < fenn> why is this so hard for people to do 19:20 < kanzure> arithmetic is hard i guess 19:20 < kanzure> s/package capture/packet capture 19:21 -!- augur [~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:21 -!- yashgaroth [~yashgarot@2606:6000:cd4d:3300:f5e0:f867:a11d:8d52] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:21 -!- augur [~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:23 < fenn> the thing about storage is it fills the space available 19:23 < fenn> the proverbial goldfish in the bathtub 19:24 < fenn> if i were running the NSA i'd be doing all this DNA storage stuff in secret so that consumers never have the ability to store gigantic quantities of DNA-based data 19:25 < fenn> if it becomes commercially available technology then your packet capture requirement goes up even more than it would have otherwise 19:25 < kanzure> sounds okay to me, we get more dna synthesis out of that deal 19:26 < kanzure> for a billion nozzles wouldn't you need a billion feeder lines for the different reagents? 19:31 < fenn> yes i like having gobs of storage available, but it doesn't really make sense from the NSA's perspective 19:32 < fenn> for a billion nozzles you'd need a billion wires and 4 or 5 feed lines 19:32 < kanzure> why only 5? 19:32 < kanzure> i am missing something 19:33 < fenn> for A G C T and maybe some other required decapping chemical 19:33 < kanzure> but how do you route those to the correct nozzle? 19:33 < fenn> they're in a line 19:34 < fenn> each nozzle has its own driver and reservoir of ink, this is etched into the chip at the same time the nozzle is etched 19:34 < fenn> the nozzle only dispenses one color of ink 19:34 < kanzure> are there any scale benefits from having 1 million same-feed-line nozzles on the same row? 19:35 < fenn> i must be missing something or tired, this seems very obvious 19:35 < fenn> you have 1 line and feed 1 million nozzles, this saves you 999999 feed lines over doing it some silly way 19:36 < kanzure> alright so you're zooming along your surface and you fire some subset of those nozzles. and then you move the surface or the printhead and you fire another feed line. ok. 19:37 < fenn> you don't fire a feed line 19:37 < kanzure> you fire nozzles on the line 19:37 < fenn> you fire a piezo disk attached to a single nozzle 19:37 < fenn> or resistor film or whatever 19:38 < fenn> the resistor heats the ink and make a bubble that pushes a droplet out 19:38 < kanzure> i think the scaling story is: nozzle fire rate (in MHz), distance between target spots on surface, accuracy of the motion control system, and motion/travel speed of the whole system. 19:39 < kanzure> or rather, both size and distance re: target spots 19:39 < kanzure> and number of nozzles 19:46 < kanzure> more importat is to figure out the relevant bottlenecks 19:55 -!- Urchin [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 19:56 -!- augur [~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:20 < kanzure> .wik BRAIN initiative 20:20 < yoleaux> "The White House BRAIN Initiative (Brain Research through Advancing Innovative Neurotechnologies), is a collaborative, public-private research initiative announced by the Obama administration on April 2, 2013, with the goal of supporting the development and application of innovative technologies that can create a dynamic understanding of …" — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BRAIN_Initiative 20:22 < kanzure> "In one such proposed method, enzymatically produced DNA would serve as a "ticker tape record" of neuronal activity,[1][18] based on calcium ion-induced errors in coding by DNA polymerase.[19] Data would be analyzed and modeled by large scale computation.[1] A related technique proposed the use of high-throughput DNA sequencing for rapidly mapping neural connectivity.[20]" 20:22 < kanzure> "The timeline proposed by the Working Group in 2014 is:[21] 2016–2020: technology development and validation; 2020–2025: application of those technologies in an integrated fashion to make fundamental new discoveries about the brain." 20:23 < kanzure> https://braininitiative.nih.gov/resources/publication.aspx 20:24 < kanzure> https://braininitiative.nih.gov/2025/index.htm 20:26 < kanzure> .title https://grants.nih.gov/grants/guide/rfa-files/RFA-NS-16-006.html 20:26 < yoleaux> RFA-NS-16-006: BRAIN Initiative: New Technologies and Novel Approaches for Large-Scale Recording and Modulation in the Nervous System (U01) 20:28 < kanzure> .title https://grants.nih.gov/grants/guide/rfa-files/RFA-NS-17-004.html 20:28 < yoleaux> RFA-NS-17-004: BRAIN Initiative: Optimization of Transformative Technologies for Large Scale Recording and Modulation in the Nervous System (U01) 20:31 < kanzure> "Parallels have been drawn to past large-scale government-led research efforts including the map of the human genome, the voyage to the moon, and the 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