--- Log opened Sat Aug 26 00:00:00 2017 00:02 < abetusk> http://10kimmunomes.org/ 00:08 < rpifan> ? 00:56 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:842d:4000::3] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 00:57 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:842d:4000::3] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:03 -!- rpifan [~rpifan@136.55.14.48] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:13 -!- fleshtheworld- [~fleshthew@c-66-41-209-167.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:38 -!- nanotube [~nanotube@unaffiliated/nanotube] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:42 -!- nanotube [~nanotube@unaffiliated/nanotube] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:47 -!- nanotube [~nanotube@unaffiliated/nanotube] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:58 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@jaboja.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 02:18 -!- nanotube [~nanotube@unaffiliated/nanotube] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:24 -!- rlp10 [50065134@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.6.81.52] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:25 -!- rlp10 [50065134@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.6.81.52] has left ##hplusroadmap [] 02:31 < fenn> i don't normally care about politics, but michael eisen running for senate is actually exciting 02:31 < kanzure> is that michael nielsen? 02:31 < fenn> he's trying to fix the intellectual property problem caused by the bayh-dole act 02:31 < fenn> michael eisen started PLoS 02:32 < fenn> http://eisen2018.com 02:32 < fenn> also he wants to prohibit government funded research from being copyrighted 02:32 < kanzure> hmm michael nielsen seems to be a different person https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Nielsen 02:35 < fenn> it was cool to see a conference keynote speaker telling you how to pirate journal articles on sci-hub 02:37 < fenn> .title http://www.michaeleisen.org/blog/?p=1981 02:37 < yoleaux> Patents are destroying the soul of academic science 02:39 -!- nanotube [~nanotube@unaffiliated/nanotube] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 02:47 < fenn> also, counter-culture is unlikely to ever get a real fume hood because in order to do so they'd need to be zoned as a commercial/industrial space, which would require $200k in fire sprinkler upgrades and zoning hearings 02:51 < kanzure> did you poke biohacktheplanet.com things? 02:51 -!- augur [~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:52 < kanzure> oh wait. why would you be talking about a conference speaker. 02:52 < kanzure> thinking is hard 02:52 < kanzure> <--- back to sleep mode 02:52 -!- nanotube [~nanotube@unaffiliated/nanotube] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:08 -!- NikopolSohru [~NSohru@85.159.233.231] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:13 < fenn> .title http://levine.sscnet.ucla.edu/general/intellectual/againstfinal.htm 03:13 < yoleaux> Against Intellectual Monopoly 03:13 < fenn> a book 03:15 < fenn> the whole book in one file http://levine.sscnet.ucla.edu/papers/imbookfinalall.pdf 03:27 -!- nanotube [~nanotube@unaffiliated/nanotube] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 03:54 -!- nanotube [~nanotube@unaffiliated/nanotube] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:01 -!- augur [~augur@c-73-71-242-163.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:06 -!- augur [~augur@c-73-71-242-163.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:06 < fenn> juul: could you share the link to your bionet inventory simulation video? i can't find it 04:34 -!- nanotube [~nanotube@unaffiliated/nanotube] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:38 -!- nanotube [~nanotube@unaffiliated/nanotube] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:02 -!- emeraldgreen [~user@92.222.68.248] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:17 -!- Gurkenglas_ [~Gurkengla@dslb-178-008-180-030.178.008.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:20 -!- Gurkenglas__ [~Gurkengla@dslb-178-000-222-214.178.000.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:24 -!- Gurkenglas_ [~Gurkengla@dslb-178-008-180-030.178.008.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:26 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@dslb-178-000-222-214.178.000.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:29 -!- Gurkenglas__ [~Gurkengla@dslb-178-000-222-214.178.000.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:34 -!- NikopolSohru [~NSohru@85.159.233.231] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:49 -!- NikopolSohru [~NSohru@85.159.233.231] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:55 -!- NikopolSohru [~NSohru@85.159.233.231] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:20 < kanzure> ya i mentioned that book over here http://gnusha.org/logs/2014-05-23.log 06:23 < kanzure> i guess he was trying to link me to this one https://mises.org/library/case-against-ip-concise-guide 06:25 < kanzure> justanotheruser: you were dying on antibiotics? yeesh. i must have missed that. 06:32 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@dslb-178-000-222-214.178.000.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 06:57 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 07:00 -!- NikopolSohru [~NSohru@85.159.233.231] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 07:06 -!- NikopolSohru [~NSohru@85.159.233.231] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:26 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cqabmmixmfzbkwww] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:57 -!- g0d355__ [~lmao@104.131.75.159] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 08:02 -!- jtimon [~quassel@173.29.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:22 < kanzure> http://www.anti-agingfirewalls.com/2017/08/21/inflammation-part-4-pcsk9-inhibition/ 08:23 -!- lambda-smith [~smith@180.183.54.224] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:24 < kanzure> lambda-smith: hi. 08:24 < lambda-smith> Hi 08:26 < kanzure> what brings you here 08:32 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:36 < lambda-smith> kanzure: Ah, well. To be honest I was looking for an online friend of mine 08:37 < lambda-smith> I haven't seen him for quite sometime, and I knew he visited this channel, so I came to see whether he's online 08:37 < lambda-smith> Though apparently he isn't here. 08:37 < lambda-smith> Well, I'll be going then, bye. 08:37 -!- lambda-smith [~smith@180.183.54.224] has left ##hplusroadmap ["Konversation terminated!"] 08:39 < justanotheruser> kanzure: Huh? I don't recall dying on antibiotics 08:40 < kanzure> justanotheruser: well being sick does that to you; memory doesn't always work. it says in the logs that you were on antibiotics. 08:41 < justanotheruser> oh yeah, I wasn't "sick", but I was on antibiotics 08:41 < justanotheruser> just dermatology 08:42 < kanzure> oh 08:42 < justanotheruser> yep :p 08:48 < kanzure> what's up 08:49 < kanzure> oh i see PM 08:51 -!- justan0theruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:53 < kanzure> .title https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15101192 08:53 < yoleaux> Cooling the Earth with a cloud of small spacecraft near the inner Lagrange point | Hacker News 08:53 < kanzure> "Feasibility of cooling the Earth with a cloud of small spacecraft near the inner Lagrange point (L1)" http://www.pnas.org/content/103/46/17184.full 08:54 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 08:56 -!- justan0theruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:58 < maaku> fenn: well wouldn't those sprinkler upgrades be justifiably needed for safety reasons? 08:58 -!- fltrz [d5d38b31@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.211.139.49] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:05 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@jaboja.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:13 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@jaboja.pl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:30 -!- rpifan [~rpifan@136.55.14.48] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:35 < emeraldgreen> kanzure I like that Eric Drexler is mentioned as advisor in that paper 09:35 < JayDugger> Overlap with Lofstrom? 09:37 < JayDugger> Nope. Not mentioned. 09:59 < kanzure> soap bubble stuff https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJyLQH2DUtY 10:10 -!- yashgaroth [~yashgarot@2606:6000:cd4d:3300:f5e0:f867:a11d:8d52] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:59 < kanzure> yashgaroth: yo 10:59 < yashgaroth> sup 11:00 < kanzure> flooding 11:00 < yashgaroth> yeah figured 11:13 -!- rpifan [~rpifan@136.55.14.48] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 11:15 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:16 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Client Quit] 11:16 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:40 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@jaboja.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:45 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cqabmmixmfzbkwww] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 12:10 -!- NikopolSohru [~NSohru@85.159.233.231] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:23 -!- jtimon [~quassel@173.29.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:41 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@jaboja.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:42 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:56 -!- augur [~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:59 < kanzure> apparently daft punk made an anime https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKkllofI22M https://myanimelist.net/anime/731/Interstella5555__The_5tory_of_The_5ecret_5tar_5ystem 12:59 -!- NikopolSohru [~NSohru@185.107.80.181] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:05 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@jaboja.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:15 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@jaboja.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 13:42 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@jaboja.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:47 < kanzure> 'Is there some hard evidence that sunshades are impossible to deploy with less than $10 billion?' 13:54 -!- NikopolSohru [~NSohru@185.107.80.181] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:07 -!- rpifan [~rpifan@136.55.14.48] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:11 -!- Asterion [~Asterion@24.38.131.202] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:14 -!- Asterion [~Asterion@24.38.131.202] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:47 -!- hehelleshin [~talinck@cpe-174-97-113-184.cinci.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:51 -!- helleshin [~talinck@cpe-174-97-113-184.cinci.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:57 -!- emeraldgreen [~user@92.222.68.248] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:11 < kanzure> http://collection.sciencemuseum.org.uk/objects/co505391/home-cloning-kit-united-states-1993-home-cloning-kit 15:21 < kanzure> neuroscience/technology slack group https://neurotechx.herokuapp.com/ 15:40 < cluckj> awesome kit 16:10 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@108-235-112-153.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:12 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:13 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Client Quit] 16:14 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:16 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@108-235-112-153.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:23 -!- rpifan [~rpifan@136.55.14.48] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:28 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.7.1] 16:28 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:33 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.7.1] 16:33 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:41 -!- rpifan [~rpifan@136.55.14.48] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:16 -!- mrdata- [~mrdata@unaffiliated/mrdata] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:36 < kanzure> hmpphh "This article has a delayed release (embargo) and will be available in PMC on November 10, 2017." 17:37 < kanzure> "Engineering CRISPR–Cpf1 crRNAs and mRNAs to maximize genome editing efficiency" https://www.nature.com/articles/s41551-017-0066 17:47 < kanzure> "CRISPRi repression of nonhomologous end-joining for enhanced genome engineering via homologous recombination in Yarrowia lipolytica" http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/bit.26404/abstract 17:51 < kanzure> "Generating genetically modified mice: A decision guide" https://link.springer.com/protocol/10.1007%2F978-1-4939-7169-5_1 18:16 -!- UnknownRogue [~UnknownRo@137.103.100.228] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:17 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@jaboja.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:20 < kanzure> nmz787: what day/time you arriving in DC 18:25 < streety> Is there something happening in DC? 18:27 < kanzure> dna synthesis volcano lair meeting between "dna synthesis experts" and semiconductor industry people 18:28 < kanzure> https://www.src.org/program/grc/semisynbio/ 18:28 < kanzure> https://www.src.org/program/grc/semisynbio/semisynbio-consortium-roadmap/ 18:28 < streety> So secret even the existence of the volcano is hidden 18:29 < kanzure> hey man i already complained about the secrecy employed by the biologists http://www.vocativ.com/428192/scientists-human-genome-struggle-transparency/ (although this was an unrelated event) 18:30 < streety> when is it? The only event listed seems to be for 2016 18:30 < kanzure> september 18:30 < kanzure> i doubt this is a public meeting. 18:31 < kanzure> i was invited and, separately, nmz787 through intel 18:31 < streety> I'm in Bethesda so if anyone wants to meet let me know 18:31 < kanzure> ah 18:32 < kanzure> uhh sure 18:32 < kanzure> would wednesday september 13 afternoon (after 1pm but before 6pm) work? 18:33 < kanzure> well, after 11am is probably the correct constraint for me to say 18:35 < streety> Yeah I could head out of the lab a little early and meet you in the afternoon 18:40 < kanzure> okay. might have instagibbs and/or nmz787 and/or one other converging to a location around that time. (logistics is difficult) 18:44 < streety> No worries, I can be fairly flexible so don't need to pin anything down ahead of time. 18:47 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@2602:306:ceb7:990:b8f2:22b:72b4:8be] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:56 -!- mrdata- [~mrdata@unaffiliated/mrdata] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:18 -!- jtimon [~quassel@173.29.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:27 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@2602:306:ceb7:990:b8f2:22b:72b4:8be] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:30 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@108-235-112-153.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:33 < juul> https://www.reddit.com/r/bionet/ 19:40 -!- jtimon [~quassel@173.29.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 19:43 < kanzure> .title http://dspace.mit.edu/handle/1721.1/111012 19:43 < yoleaux> DSpace@MIT: Draft OpenMTA 11 June 2017, for comment 19:45 < juul> fenn: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9urxFLzyqsg 19:45 < juul> this is actually an older version 19:45 < kanzure> .title 19:45 < yoleaux> Bionet 3d view - YouTube 19:45 < kanzure> "Complete absence of thebaine biosynthesis under home-brew fermentation conditions" http://www.biorxiv.org/content/early/2015/08/13/024299 19:46 < juul> there's also this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t29-RGggSU8 19:46 < juul> .title 19:47 < yoleaux> Why bionet? - YouTube 19:47 < superkuh> "the positive control was palatable." 19:47 < juul> mmmm, positive controoool 19:49 < juul> kanzure: https://sci-hub.cc/10.1038/s41551-017-0066 19:55 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@108-235-112-153.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:08 < maaku> streety: which defense contractor do you work for? 21:13 -!- rpifan [~rpifan@136.55.14.48] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:13 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@108-235-112-153.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:45 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@108-235-112-153.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:48 -!- strages [uid11297@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ginrhczrxhvkbxkr] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 21:49 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:49 < streety> maaku: I work for the national institutes of health 21:53 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:07 -!- UnknownRogue [~UnknownRo@137.103.100.228] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:21 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@108-235-112-153.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:27 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@108-235-112-153.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:52 -!- yashgaroth [~yashgarot@2606:6000:cd4d:3300:f5e0:f867:a11d:8d52] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:52 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:842d:4000::3] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:54 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:842d:4000::3] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:14 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@108-235-112-153.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:21 -!- rpifan [~rpifan@136.55.14.48] has joined ##hplusroadmap --- Log closed Sun Aug 27 00:00:01 2017