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03:50 < kanzure> fenn: one pot mixed solution might be okay for data storage purposes... or for yeast homologous recombination stuff.
03:50 < kanzure> if the reason why we don't have mass produced versions of this is "patents" then i am going to be more grumpy than usual
04:01 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/virginiahughes/status/903979810694811649
04:01 < yoleaux> Meet The Scientists Using FOIA To See Each Other’s Grants, by @AylinWoodward and @teresa_carey: https://www.buzzfeed.com/teresalcarey/when-scientists-foia?utm_term=.gn5aPbbXm1#.hdAKBaap86 (@virginiahughes)
04:01 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/eboyden3/status/904043807892787200
04:01 < yoleaux> Everything you write in an NIH, NSF, etc. grant is public information. https://twitter.com/virginiahughes/status/903979810694811649 (@eboyden3)
04:02 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/AndreasMershin/status/904099290632597504
04:02 < yoleaux> @eboyden3 Do grant submissions now constitute public disclosure for IP purposes then? Ooops! (@AndreasMershin, in reply to tw:904043807892787200)
04:02 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/KipLudwig/status/904094588893265920
04:02 < yoleaux> @eboyden3 They ask NIH PD to redact anything that might be intellectual property first. But having done it, it's hard to make that call. (@KipLudwig, in reply to tw:904043807892787200)
04:02 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/hIPS_CM_lab/status/904061835644739588
04:02 < yoleaux> @eboyden3 Feels wrong. Does the FOIA extend to the reviewers comments & the panel discussion? Big advantage to the spies if they have alternative £¥$€ (@hIPS_CM_lab, in reply to tw:904043807892787200)
04:04 < kanzure> "Robotic automation of in vivo two-photon targeted whole-cell patch-clamp electrophysiology" http://www.cell.com/neuron/fulltext/S0896-6273(17)30733-X
04:04 < kanzure> "Closed-loop real-time imaging enables fully automated cell-targeted patch-clamp neural recording in vivo" http://www.cell.com/neuron/fulltext/S0896-6273(17)30702-X
04:04 < kanzure> via http://www.the-scientist.com/?articles.view/articleNo/50227/title/Robotic-Patch-Clamping-Gains-Eyes/ https://twitter.com/TheScientistLLC/status/903317965734424576
04:05 < kanzure> http://autopatcher.org/
04:05 < kanzure> http://autopatcher.org/data/ImagepatcherManuals/Imagepatcher%20User%20Manual.docx
04:06 < kanzure> http://neuromaticdevices.com/
04:06 < kanzure> http://autopatcher.org/data/ImagepatcherManuals/Imagepatcher.zip (matlab source code)
04:07 < kanzure> http://autopatcher.org/data/Autopatcher%202000.zip (labview i guess?)
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04:49 < fenn> wah i can't patent my publically funded research wah wah wah
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07:23 < streety> what is the delay for the FOIA requests? Article seems to talk about successful grants. Grants currently in review are excluded?
07:23 < streety> Is the gap between grant application to patent submission so long that this would be an issue?
07:24 < streety> There may be ideas that lead to a patent but is that close enough to cause problems?
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07:37 < kanzure> it doesn't matter... people who believe in patents are hyper-paranoid anyway.
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07:58 < adlai> streety: I believe there were some FOIA requests about the USMC SR BTC auctions that basically got punted for good.
07:58 < adlai> ie, "Two Weeks", give or take a shitcoin
08:05 < streety> adlai: USMC = Marine corps? SR = ? BTC = bitcoin or chief boilerman?
08:05 < streety> kanzure: true. If they are that paranoid though are they going to trust the reviewers not to act on what they saw anyway?
08:06 < adlai> streety: sorry, USMS - United States Marshall Service. they were responsible for liquidating via auction the stuff siezed when Ross Ulbricht was arrested
08:07 < adlai> if he'd been caught with a super secret yeast genome that poops out pure psilocin, they'd have been auctioning that too... maybe?
08:08 < adlai> this is not so far fetched, fwiw - http://sci-hub.io/doi/10.1002/anie.201705489
08:08 < adlai> .title
08:08 < yoleaux> Загрузка статьи
08:09 < adlai> tl;dr: "Given the renewed pharmaceutical interest in psilocybin, our results may lay the foundation for its biotechnological production."
08:14 < streety> thanks for the clarification
08:17 < adlai> communicating clearly is a rare skill in this bleak century
08:17  * adlai takes care to invoke this spell only when strictly unavoidable
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09:57 < Asterion> has anyone here read Sapiens or Homo Deus by Yuval Noah Harari?
09:57 < mrdata_> not me
09:59 < Asterion> I'm reading Homo Deus now and he suggests that China's identity crisis (not quite communism not quite classical liberalism) is an ideal seeding ground for the techno oriented trans humanist ideas coming out of 'silicon valley'
09:59 < kanzure> requiem for homo sapiens is better
09:59 < Asterion> oh is it?
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10:00 < Asterion> how does it differ from Homo Deus?
10:00 < kanzure> i have no idea, i'm just shitposting
10:00 < Asterion> lmao
10:00 < Asterion> gotcha
10:00 < kanzure> i'm technically illiterate.
10:00 < Asterion> I'll check it out
10:01 < Asterion> ohhhh lmao I see. I don't read enough sci fi
10:02 < Asterion> Neuromancer is my next one on that list
10:02 < Asterion> I can add requiem though if it's really good
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10:05 < kanzure> yeah.
10:13 < JayDugger> Add Zindell.
10:13 < Storyteller> Neuromancer is good, the Bridge Trilogy is a good read
10:16 < JayDugger> If not Zindell, do yourself a favor after finishing Harari. Research the history of "Technocracy," and compare Harari's recommendations with that.
10:17 < JayDugger> You might find it very boring. If so, switch to Stapledon's "Last and First Men." Don't skip the first half, and you'll probably feel very tempted.
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10:21 < JayDugger> Generally, if you want a SF list, try all SF by Stapledon and Lem. Past that, you might read Gene Wolfe's New Sun or Miyazaki's Nausicaa. Not too much H+ there, but worth reading to see cultural differences in SF. Gibson went downhill fast, so read the Sprawl books and then switch to Burroughs.
10:22 < JayDugger> This concludes side one of the tape. To continue, eject the cassette, turn it over, and reinsert it in your tape player. Or PM me.
10:24 < Asterion> haha will do
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12:03 < JayDugger> Got all that, Asterion?
12:03 < JayDugger> I'll return tomorrow for questions.
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13:32 < Asterion> Got it, sounds good. I'm sure I'll have some for you JayDugger
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13:49 < adlai> Asterion: start with Shanidar: http://www.infinityplus.co.uk/stories/shanidar.htm
14:02 < kanzure> and now an important message from your non-sponsors https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_AP3SGMxxM
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17:26 < kanzure> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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19:11 < kanzure> bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb
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