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05:48 < kanzure> alright fine.
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08:05 < kanzure> https://synbiobeta.com/guesstimating-size-global-array-synthesis-market/
08:06 < kanzure> "Array oligos are a lot cheaper than column oligos. Kosuri and Church write that “oligos produced from microarrays are 2–4 orders of magnitude cheaper than column-based oligos, with costs ranging from $0.00001–0.001 per nucleotide, depending on length, scale and platform.” Here we stumble a bit, because cost is not the same thing as price. As a consumer, or as someone interested in ...
08:06 < kanzure> ...understanding how actually acquiring a product affects project development, I care about price. Without knowing a lot more about how this cost range is related to price, and the distribution of prices paid to acquire array oligos, it is hard to know what to do with the “cost” range. The simple average cost would be $0.001 per base, but I also happen to know that you can get oligos en ...
08:06 < kanzure> ...masse for less than that. But I do not know what the true average price is. For the sake of expediency, I will call it $0.0001 per base for this exercise."
08:07 < kanzure> "Combining the revenue estimate and the price gives us about 5E12 bases per year. From there, assuming roughly 100-mer oligos, you get to 5E10 difference sequences. And adding in the number of features per array (between 100,000 and 1M), you get as many as 500,000 arrays run per year, or about 1370 per day. (It is not obvious that you should think of this as 1370 instruments running globally, ...
08:07 < kanzure> ...and after seeing the Agilent oligo synthesis operation a few years ago, I suggest that you not do that.)"
08:09 < kanzure> eh his post kind of died down at the end. nothing gained.
08:10 < kanzure> he estimates current write capacity is 5 TB/year
08:16 < nmz787> and IARPA wants 1TB/day for their first-gen product/system
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08:21 < nmz787> hmm, didn't someone on the call mention happy holidays?
08:22 < nmz787> I guess either Rosh Hashana or the Islamic new year
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08:30 < kanzure> nmz787: going back to sleep?
08:30 < nmz787> nah
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09:06 < kanzure> nmz787: you OK with me including some of your numbers in the src summary document?
09:06 < kanzure> and in the hgp-write documents
09:14 < kanzure> it's interesting that george church's crew keeps claiming "dna synthesis cost is not a problem anymore"-- but where's the hard evidence?
09:15 < mrdata_> yes can you synthesize a few billion base pairs for me?
09:20 < cluckj> not a problem if you work in his lab, I guess...
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09:28 < kanzure> cluckj: right... which isn't particularly helpful..
09:29 < cluckj> maybe they are planning on inviting everyone to use their equipment?
09:30 < cluckj> secret message: decoded
09:37 < kanzure> music https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3T7n-NZhb4
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10:02 < kanzure> ImmaVegeta origin story http://grognor.blogspot.se/2017/03/a-history-of-weird-sun-twitter.html
10:06 < kanzure> "It's a tricky situation. Many people get into it just because it's strange, or because they like the jokes, or because they enjoy feeling confused, or because they want to join a crowd. I hate them."
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10:16 < nmz787> kanzure: sure
10:17 < nmz787> kanzure: we need to determine half-lives for higher temps (i.e. PC case, datacenter temps, military desert use-case temps), this is the paper I was quoting and it has a model... https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3497090/
10:18 < kanzure> why? just cool it.
10:18 < nmz787> converting 13.1 C to K... and using wolframalpha I get a number that is quite close to the K they list in the abstract... but I don't see how to use the K to get the half-life
10:18 < nmz787> .wa e^(41.2-(15267.6*1/286.25))
10:18 < yoleaux> nmz787: Sorry, no result!
10:19 < nmz787> where 286.25 is the temp in Kelvin
10:20 < kanzure> .to yashgaroth prader-willi syndrome seems to indicate that chromosome 15 is not really necessary
10:20 < yoleaux> kanzure: I'll pass your message to yashgaroth.
10:21 < nmz787> I need 85C 125, and 160
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13:05 < nmz787> kanzure: apparently my nucleosome density is ~ 2X lower than it should be... the size isn't ~10nm cubed, it's more like 11nm * 11nm * 5.5nm
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13:22 < heath> nmz787: where did you get your FIB?
13:27 < heath> and why did you go the nonlithographic route?
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13:50 < heath> i'm guessing it's cheaper
13:53 < kanzure> because FIB is generally useful, so i bought it
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14:38 < kanzure> traumschule: hi.
14:51 < nmz787> heath: ebay; California
14:52 < nmz787> heath: lithography is harder, this is more like a CNC + 3D printer... but just like 3D-printers aren't going to beat injection molding... neither will FIB in big-volume production
14:52 < nmz787> (unless it is for some very specific and easy step, and even then, the vacuum pump time might become a bottleneck)
14:53 < nmz787> heath: easy to prototype with essentially, and use for low-volume applications... also useful for other things in general, as kanzure indicated
14:53 < nmz787> like taking fixed cells (i.e. dead but preserved) and milling off a very thin lyer at a time, then acquiring a nice image, then milling, then grabbing an image, and so on... to generate a stack of images in 3D
14:54 < nmz787> (or replace cells with some mineral an oil company is investigating how to best extract oil from)
14:56 < nmz787> http://pacificnwmicroscopy.org/
14:56 < nmz787> Nov 9, 2017 Lecture and Workshop in Portland
14:57 < nmz787> Please join the Pacific Northwest Microscopy Society for a stimulating one-day workshop, with major focus on the cryo-preparation of biological samples by High Pressure Freezing. Dr. Shigeki Watanabe (Johns Hopkins University) will lead the workshop, beginning with a morning lecture and discussion followed by an afternoon hands-on demonstration of the Wohlwend HPF02 high pressure freezer. Attendees
14:57 < nmz787> are encouraged to bring their own samples* for freezing.
14:57 < nmz787> so what sample can I get to take?
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14:58 < nmz787> "Additionally you may image your minimally processed samples* using a Hitachi HM4000 tabletop SEM and also attend a demonstration by Dr. Stefanie Petrie of the Zeiss Light Sheet Microscope."
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15:06 < darsie> My flat mate told us he discovered (s)he's transfemale and when I asked how female hormone therapy would affect his life expectancy he said it's gonna increase.
15:06 < darsie> So ... life extension :)
15:13 < delinquentme> haha
15:14 < delinquentme> darsie, where live?
15:14 < delinquentme> berkeley?
15:14 < darsie> Austria
15:14 < darsie> Vienna
15:14 < delinquentme> I always wonder about trans stuff + ego
15:14 < darsie> Well, my flat mate has quite an ego :).
15:14 < delinquentme> does your flat mate think themselves very attractive?
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15:15 < darsie> Not in the past. Dunno about now. I doubt it.
15:15 < delinquentme> you should ask them if this is about being percieved / respected by the other sex.
15:15 < delinquentme> big ego but doesnt see themselves as very attractive?
15:15 < delinquentme> intersting.
15:15 < darsie> Well, maybe s/he has two egos.
15:16 < darsie> one inflated, one deflated.
15:16 < delinquentme> the feminine is inflated?
15:17 < delinquentme> this is male > female right?
15:17 < darsie> I wouldn't pin that to a sex.
15:17 < darsie> yes
15:17 < delinquentme> oh agreed.
15:17 < delinquentme> but yeah, bingo.
15:17 < delinquentme> psychology is so awful.
15:17 < delinquentme> dehumanizing af hahah
15:17 < delinquentme> everyone is a fucking carbon copy.
15:17 < delinquentme> as her if she likes the idea of being hit on.
15:18 < darsie> she's chubby ...
15:18 < darsie> a pro linux admin
15:19 < delinquentme> yeah
15:19 < delinquentme> its a self worth thing.
15:19 < delinquentme> coping mechanism.
15:19 < delinquentme> blamo.
15:19 < delinquentme> also social respect and social hieararchy thing.
15:19 < delinquentme> tell her to move out to sf
15:19 < delinquentme> be treated like a queen
15:20 < darsie> ok
15:20 < darsie> she might in fact move out. Doesn't like another flat mate.
15:20 < delinquentme> social is hard. coping is hard. life is hard.
15:20 < delinquentme> whatevs man.
15:20 < darsie> ik
15:20 < darsie> I have issues, too.
15:21 < delinquentme> you're alive. of course you do hahaha
15:21 < darsie> Might get kicked out of freenode ...
15:21 < delinquentme> you're sentient with the consideration of total nothingness.
15:21 < darsie> Got kicked out of greenpeace ...
15:21 < delinquentme> yeah you've got issues.
15:21 < delinquentme> you got kicked out of greenpeace?
15:21 < delinquentme> the irc channel?
15:21 < darsie> mhm
15:21 < darsie> no
15:21 < darsie> irl
15:21 < delinquentme> hahahahah
15:21 < delinquentme> darsie, what for? also were friends now.
15:21 < darsie> from volunteering
15:21 < delinquentme> what did you do?
15:22 < darsie> Too much joking during meetings I was told.
15:22 < darsie> or so
15:22 < darsie> disturbing
15:22 < darsie> we're not friends, btw ;)
15:24 < darsie> no offence, but friendship has to grow.
15:25  * darsie cleans his finger nails ...
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15:27 < delinquentme> darsie, fuck you were downright blood brothers.
15:27 < delinquentme> <3
15:27 < delinquentme> also greenpeace is weh
15:28 < darsie> Was a nice place to meet people.
15:28 < darsie> And I'm an environmentalist.
15:29 < kanzure> this is boring
15:30 < darsie> delinquentme: I'm a bit sensitive to spelling, so it took me a while you meant we're.
15:30 < delinquentme> true
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16:49 < jrayhawk> nmz787: be the unsettling guy who brings his own cells
16:49 < jrayhawk> preferably something impressive, like some heart or brain
17:01 < nmz787> squirrels seem plentiful enough
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18:20 < nmz787> kanzure: with the numbers in the ppt I presented at the SRC, 0.0083 bits/s for write and 10^13 molecules at a time... if each of those molecules were single-molecule reactions that would be 83 Gbps... and if each single-molecule reactor was 50nm square, that would require 250 sq cm
18:21 < nmz787> and that isn't even accounting for the speedup in cycle time when you reduce the number of molecules
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19:20 < kanzure> musics https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m602TRRViRE
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19:55 < kanzure> image puzzle solver thing https://github.com/nemanja-m/gaps
20:09 < fenn> delinquentme: trans people seem to be the result of a developmental abnormality in the brain, not a result of psychological issues
20:09 < delinquentme> fenn, you and I will disagree on this :D
20:10 < fenn> there hasn't been as much science done as i would like
20:10 < delinquentme> the will is an amazing thing. and Yes I can see that manifesting as novelty within the brain.
20:10 < delinquentme> Just so long as we're talking science.
20:10 < kanzure> the will what?
20:11 < delinquentme> and not some feelings driven stuff about what we think is compassionate.
20:11 < delinquentme> kanzure, "the human will"
20:11 < kanzure> like this? "The will to persevere induced by electrical stimulation of the human cingulate gyrus" https://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/neuro/motivation-effort/The%20will%20to%20persevere%20induced%20by%20electrical%20stimulation%20of%20the%20human%20cingulate%20gyrus.pdf
20:11 < delinquentme> that kinda will
20:12 < delinquentme> but also fenn  I think you're of the social group which would willingly embrace what people say without questioning the legitimacy.
20:12 < fenn> i don't really believe in legitimacy
20:12 < delinquentme> Granted you cant really question it bc "be who you wanna be" but I do ... bc theres so much horse shit "research" in the humanities on the matter.
20:12 < delinquentme> fenn, how circuitous.
20:12 < delinquentme> 0=]
20:13 < fenn> what i was thinking was a neuroanatomy study
20:14 < delinquentme> right I've seen one. And im not suprised that novel things result from these individuals ... IE the behavior must be sourced from something right?
20:14 < delinquentme> but theres a shitload of taboo things which kinda counfound but we cant discuss bc SJW bullshit.
20:15 < delinquentme> and fucking antifa faggots.
20:15 < fenn> i think the best remedy for that is to just discuss them
20:15 < delinquentme> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0hNyrhaP0Q
20:16 < delinquentme> I agree!  But discussion isn't part of that sect.  Its unified ignorance through memetics
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20:16 < delinquentme> I've tried.
20:16 < delinquentme> Im too passionate about the topic so its not worth discussing.
20:16 < delinquentme> If you wanna face to face we can talk but not lik dis.
20:17 < fenn> i'm not saying you should try to go out and convert SJW's, but rather act how you would if they weren't influencing you
20:17 < kanzure> .title
20:17 < yoleaux> “Cuba-Success Story. End Of USSR-Disaster!” -Pro-DACA Commie Explains USSR To Former Soviet Citizen - YouTube
20:20 < delinquentme> fenn, I kinda agree But kinda dont hahaha  ... Like they're a HUGE social force...
20:20 < delinquentme> were giving social weight to people who make up science.
20:21 < delinquentme> You've seen this stat that 80% of humanities papers are not referenced even once right?
20:21 < fenn> because the papers are about subjects nobody cares about
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20:23 < fenn> 80% of university patents are never licensed for the same reason
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20:37 < fenn> today i learned that ziploc quart freezer bags and ziploc gallon freezer bags cost the same per bag
20:38 < fenn> $0.10 pe rbag
20:39 < fenn> also i'd just like to remind everybody that lithium ion batteries are awesome
20:42 < delinquentme> fenn, im not sure patents == research
20:47 < fenn> the patents are for technologies nobody cares about
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23:48 < traumschule> hey kanzure, just found your message :)
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