--- Log opened Tue Oct 17 00:00:48 2017 00:04 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@223.237.51.77] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:05 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tbqmzxocdyfbreyw] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:24 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@jaboja.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:34 < adlai> what the downtrodden lifeform is a "patentleft" 00:43 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@jaboja.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:09 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@dslb-094-223-135-191.094.223.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:35 < adlai> as much as it belongs over there, it might belong here more 01:35 < adlai> a thing that was made to build code decided to make its own node so it tried and it tried and it tried and it tried and it tried and it tried till it died 01:38 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:55 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:55 -!- CRM114 [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] 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Then I drove up to Counter Culture labs and hung out for an hour or two... then ended the night at The ODIN, where I slept. 11:07 < kanzure> josiah needs our support now that mac is anti-diybio 11:19 < adlai> nmz787: what do these places do, other than stockpile dolly printers? 11:28 -!- aeiousom1thing [~aeiousome@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:33 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:46 < heath> "Yes, on May 13, 2018 I plan to make a typo which we will spend the next three days tracking down." 11:46 < heath> i forget typos are a possible bug 11:47 < heath> too much time spent in the ML world 11:58 < kanzure> adlai: they are underground biohacking facilities that are carrying out my will and command 12:16 < heath> why is mac anti-diybio? 12:16 < heath> that doesn't make sense 12:19 < heath> kanzure: you're name comes up in this talk https://www.pscp.tv/w/1MYxNXVwlPzGw?t=51 12:19 < heath> s/you're/your 12:25 < fenn> / 12:31 < kanzure> mac is anti-diybio https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/diybio/3r1rloT5Yug/KMLkEsUQBQAJ 12:31 < kanzure> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/diybio/3r1rloT5Yug/zZGalm4OBQAJ 12:38 -!- night [~Adifex@unaffiliated/adifex] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:50 -!- preview [~quassel@203.167.243.242] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:05 < adlai> kanzure: so far we've got uploading, downlifting, upshifting, and downtrodding. what's the next dimension? 13:05 < adlai> heath: typos are only a bug if spelling is a thing 13:05 < adlai> for example, in all conlangs, you have these false letters that act as fetters 13:06 < adlai> you can swap them around like a dancing pardner 13:07 -!- mindsForge1 [~nak@174-26-87-95.phnx.qwest.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:07 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@108-235-112-153.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 13:09 < heath> that is interesting 13:10 < heath> if you have a link to an example, that would save me time and be appreciated :) 13:10 -!- mindsForge [~nak@174-26-87-95.phnx.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:18 < kanzure> adlai: what do you mean dimension? i don't know what that means. 13:19 -!- mindsForge1 [~nak@174-26-87-95.phnx.qwest.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:22 < adlai> heath: for example, if they knighted wright at night, what would the journalists' write about that rite? 13:37 -!- y0no [y0no@2001:bc8:212d:201:ff01::a] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:41 < adlai> kanzure: a dimension is an orthogonal broadening of the space downfrom which you can project? 13:42 -!- Imaginarie [~guest@173-198-253-92.static.as40244.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:43 < kanzure> adlai: you would like nsh 13:43 < kanzure> adlai: both of you are substantially incomprehensible and nonsense 13:44 < adlai> you know, or maybe you don't - but sense is not a grayscale phenomenon. i'd say it's more like a mobius strip with a line inked so well that you can almost tell you've done half a double backflip 13:45 < adlai> but i've yet to figure out where the point at infinity would be located on the paper mobius strip, if that makes any sense :) 13:50 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@96-68-162-179-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:56 -!- anonnumberanon [~anonnumbe@unaffiliated/anonnumberanon] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:00 -!- AgenttiX [agenttix@lakka.kapsi.fi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:02 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@96-68-162-179-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 14:08 -!- traumschule [~traumschu@mehl.schokokeks.org] has quit [Quit: leaving] 14:08 -!- traumschule [~traumschu@mehl.schokokeks.org] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:14 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:47 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:04 < nmz787> adlai: if they had dolly printers, then they'd be much farther along than they are 15:05 < nmz787> adlai: I saw lots of projects, a shelving unit filled with plant cultures... a cell patch-clamp setup, mamallian cell culture, mycology, 'real vegan cheese' 15:16 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@108-235-112-153.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:27 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@e-nat-mobility-0-117.uniaccess.unimelb.edu.au] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:44 -!- mindsForge [~nak@174-26-87-95.phnx.qwest.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:49 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@108-235-112-153.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:00 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@dslb-094-223-135-191.094.223.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:27 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@e-nat-mobility-0-117.uniaccess.unimelb.edu.au] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:28 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@jaboja.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:28 -!- juul [~juul@juul.io] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 16:29 -!- juul [~juul@juul.io] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:32 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@e-nat-mobility-0-117.uniaccess.unimelb.edu.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:40 < kanzure> "A young blood environment decreases aging of senile mice kidneys" https://academic.oup.com/biomedgerontology/article-abstract/doi/10.1093/gerona/glx183/4524050/A-young-blood-environment-decreases-aging-of?redirectedFrom=fulltext 16:46 -!- night [~Adifex@unaffiliated/adifex] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:47 -!- night [~Adifex@unaffiliated/adifex] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:57 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@jaboja.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:03 < kanzure> .wik soliton (optics) 17:03 < yoleaux> "In optics, the term soliton is used to refer to any optical field that does not change during propagation because of a delicate balance between nonlinear and linear effects in the medium. There are two main kinds of solitons:" — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soliton_(optics) 17:04 < kanzure> .title https://www.thorlabs.com/navigation.cfm?guide_id=2024 17:04 < yoleaux> Femtosecond Lasers - Thorlabs 17:12 -!- MultiColoredHat [~MultiColo@2606:f180:0:462:462:5c63:44e6:258b] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:28 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@e-nat-mobility-0-117.uniaccess.unimelb.edu.au] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:31 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:33 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@e-nat-mobility-0-117.uniaccess.unimelb.edu.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:35 -!- zephyr1_ [~zephyr1@77.247.178.186] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:36 -!- darsie [~username@84-114-73-160.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:41 -!- zephyr1_ [~zephyr1@77.247.178.186] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 17:59 -!- rpifan [~rpifan@73.106.74.208] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:11 < adlai> nmz787: what the blastocleft dollyo is a "real vegan cheese"? some dude who isn't funny and won't eat anything that can't endogenously synthesize a useful phytochem? 18:14 < kanzure> adlai: https://realvegancheese.org/ 18:22 -!- zephyr1 [~zephyr1@77.247.178.186] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:25 * adlai might click that on a vegan day 18:29 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@e-nat-mobility-0-117.uniaccess.unimelb.edu.au] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:32 < redlegion> not surprising that they've well exceeded the goal 18:32 < redlegion> nut based vegan cheeses are largely awful 18:35 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@e-nat-mobility-0-117.uniaccess.unimelb.edu.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:36 -!- zephyr1 [~zephyr1@77.247.178.186] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 18:47 * adlai has eaten a vegan pasta that had credible parmesan allegedly from beer byproducts? 19:02 < kanzure> we cannot answer this question for you. only the true answer is from within. 19:07 < kanzure> https://doesmysiteneedhttps.com/ 19:13 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@108-235-112-153.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:23 -!- preview [~quassel@203.167.243.242] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 19:27 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@108-235-112-153.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:30 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@2602:306:ceb7:990:7c84:bcd6:379e:ba0b] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:30 < superkuh> Advocating for https is fine. But it's going to far to suggest no http at all, or only as a redirect. 19:31 < superkuh> s/to/too/ 19:31 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@e-nat-mobility-0-117.uniaccess.unimelb.edu.au] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:33 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/aeiousomething] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:36 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@e-nat-mobility-0-117.uniaccess.unimelb.edu.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:39 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@117.195.132.39] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:46 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@2602:306:ceb7:990:7c84:bcd6:379e:ba0b] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:51 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@1.136.105.199] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:56 -!- preview [~quassel@203.167.243.242] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:58 < kanzure> music https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jmv5pTyz--I 20:00 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@1.136.105.199] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:00 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@1.136.105.199] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:14 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.7.1] 20:15 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:23 < adlai> "This article may be too technical for most readers to understand." << i like how this warning appears, without explicitly telling you whence category you're 20:35 < kanzure> "warning: do not expose this document to high technical complexity individuals. if this warning is violated then proceed to contact SCP wiki immediately." 20:39 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@1.136.105.199] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:57 -!- justan0theruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:58 -!- rpifan [~rpifan@73.106.74.208] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:59 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:00 -!- justan0theruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Client Quit] 21:00 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:04 -!- mf1008 [~mf1008@unaffiliated/mf1008] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:09 -!- mf1008 [~mf1008@unaffiliated/mf1008] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:50 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@1.152.106.182] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:11 -!- mindsForge [~nak@174-26-87-95.phnx.qwest.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:14 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@1.152.106.182] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:16 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@1.152.106.182] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:24 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@1.152.106.182] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:26 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@1.152.106.182] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:46 -!- MultiColoredHat [~MultiColo@2606:f180:0:462:462:5c63:44e6:258b] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 23:13 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@1.152.106.182] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:26 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@e-nat-mobility-0-101.uniaccess.unimelb.edu.au] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:28 -!- darsie [~username@84-114-73-160.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:29 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@dslb-094-223-135-191.094.223.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:35 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@dslb-094-223-135-191.094.223.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 23:40 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@dslb-094-223-135-191.094.223.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:47 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:51 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] --- Log closed Wed Oct 18 00:00:49 2017