--- Log opened Wed Nov 15 00:00:15 2017 00:12 -!- rpifan [~rpifan@207-244-191-189-dhcp.mia.fl.atlanticbb.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:19 -!- andytosh1 [~apoelstra@wpsoftware.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:25 -!- ExeciN [ExeciN@bnc.stormbit.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:25 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@108-235-112-153.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 00:29 -!- aeiousom1thing [~aeiousome@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:29 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:32 -!- andytoshi [~apoelstra@wpsoftware.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:50 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@108-235-112-153.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:17 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:26 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:44 -!- rpifan [~rpifan@207-244-191-189-dhcp.mia.fl.atlanticbb.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:03 < kanzure> maaku: you know alex.. 03:15 < kanzure> man i hate this kind of breathless non-detail http://dodoomnidata.com/data-storage-solution-may-be-in-the-dna/ 03:22 < kanzure> and nice touch adding "we'll probably be aquired by microsoft" at the end of your own article -_- 03:29 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 03:31 -!- emeraldgreen [~user@188.227.115.178] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:42 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:48 -!- darsie [~username@84-114-73-160.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:25 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 04:30 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@jaboja.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:38 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:842d:4051:4e34:cc83:549e:21e4] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 04:57 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:842d:4000::4] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:05 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:06 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@jaboja.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:10 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@jaboja.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:14 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zpzomzepnminhhlu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:16 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 05:17 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@190.99.101.24] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:23 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@jaboja.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:29 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:47 -!- mindsForge [~nak@75-172-162-202.phnx.qwest.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:55 -!- helleshin [~talinck@cpe-174-97-113-184.cinci.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:57 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@jaboja.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:59 -!- Guest57082 [~talinck@cpe-174-97-113-184.cinci.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:10 < kanzure> "We'll probably be acquired by FANG (Facebook, Amazon, Netflix, Google)." 06:10 < gradstudentbot> Are there any of those hamster ovaries left? 06:12 < kanzure> http://www.thenanoporesite.com/ 06:28 < kanzure> lightning network: 06:28 < kanzure> https://github.com/mit-dci/lit 06:28 < kanzure> https://github.com/ACINQ/eclair 06:28 < kanzure> https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd 06:29 < kanzure> https://github.com/ElementsProject/lightning 06:30 < gradstudentbot> Can I get my own desk? 06:31 -!- redlegion [~x@unaffiliated/redlegion] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:31 -!- redlegion [~x@104.219.54.200] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:31 -!- redlegion [~x@104.219.54.200] has quit [Changing host] 06:31 -!- redlegion [~x@unaffiliated/redlegion] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:36 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 06:37 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:1074:bc00:30d6:7fc:a3f0:a01a] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:45 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@jaboja.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:46 -!- jtimon [~quassel@164.31.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:52 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zpzomzepnminhhlu] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 08:45 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@108-235-112-153.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:00 < kanzure> these are the guys doing taek's mining asics http://www.customsiliconsolutions.com/ 09:05 < kanzure> eFPGA things https://www.achronix.com/product/boards/ 09:11 < eudoxia> weird typo on this page https://www.achronix.com/product/speedster22i/ "Interlaken" for what I assume is "Interlink" (as in infiniband?) 09:13 < eudoxia> oh, nevermind https://www.altera.com/products/intellectual-property/ip/interface-protocols/m-alt-interlaken.html 09:25 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@5.196.225.175] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:59 < nmz787> kanzure: totally forgot about the morning call... anything good? I saw my name in the note email, but didn't open the notes yet 10:00 < kanzure> no 10:13 < nmz787> :( thanks for waking up in time 10:30 -!- rpifan [~rpifan@207-244-191-189-dhcp.mia.fl.atlanticbb.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:34 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@5.196.225.175] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 10:47 < nmz787> "We are pleased to offer you another opportunity to qualify for a full year’s complimentary subscription. Take 5 minutes and fill out our short form to ensure you receive Nature Methods for another year!" 10:47 < kanzure> yes they keep emailing me too :-/ 10:48 < nmz787> maybe I should reply "I've gone paperless" 10:48 -!- augur [~augur@192.195.83.130] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:49 < kanzure> wait until they IPO 10:49 < kanzure> (they are IPOing soon) 10:57 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@jaboja.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:57 < heath> .title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PN_CP4SuoTU 10:57 < yoleaux> TIE Fighter - short film - YouTube 11:11 -!- augur [~augur@192.195.83.130] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:14 -!- augur [~augur@192.195.83.130] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:20 -!- mindsForge [~nak@75-172-162-202.phnx.qwest.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:21 -!- augur [~augur@192.195.83.130] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:22 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@jaboja.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 11:25 < kanzure> https://blog.agilebits.com/2017/11/13/1password-x-a-look-at-the-future-of-1password-in-the-browser/ 11:26 < kanzure> https://www.sydneycriminallawyers.com.au/blog/australias-first-cyborg-rights-case-an-interview-with-biohacker-meow-meow/ 11:43 -!- helleshin [~talinck@cpe-174-97-113-184.cinci.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:53 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@jaboja.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:05 -!- helleshin [~talinck@cpe-174-97-113-184.cinci.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:21 -!- helleshin [~talinck@cpe-174-97-113-184.cinci.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:34 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@190.99.101.24] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:42 -!- helleshin [~talinck@cpe-174-97-113-184.cinci.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:43 -!- CaptHindsight [~2020@unaffiliated/capthindsight] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:49 < CaptHindsight> nmz787: asking about printheads.... 12:49 < CaptHindsight> http://www.3ders.org/articles/20171114-basf-tightens-grip-on-3d-printing-industry-with-eos-xaar-ricoh-partnerships.html 12:49 < CaptHindsight> they cut deals with suppliers and dealers to control the whole ecosystem 12:51 < CaptHindsight> materials, deposition components, end user printers, no room for 3rd parties 12:53 < CaptHindsight> Fujifilm will let you come to their lab with your fluids to test for ~$2500/day 12:54 < CaptHindsight> 4 hours of printhead cleaning and flushing time is included 12:56 -!- helleshin [~talinck@cpe-174-97-113-184.cinci.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:17 < CaptHindsight> nmz787: either plan to make your own MEMS nozzle or http://www.vcesolutions.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/IMI-The-Hurdles-Ahead-For-Inkjet.pdf search for used versions of these on fleabay or similar 13:19 < kanzure> cool thanks 13:19 < CaptHindsight> with the equipment I think you have you should also be able to fab an electrostatic jet to make drops down to 0.1 femtoliter 13:23 < CaptHindsight> Epson printers are the most often hacked piezos 13:25 < CaptHindsight> used for <$100 on fleabay, and some logic analysis and oscilloscope will show you how to drive the head yourself 13:26 < CaptHindsight> think they are down to ~1pL drops 13:30 < CaptHindsight> came up from a different search, but might be handy ... 13:30 < CaptHindsight> PEI transfection patents to expire https://www.tebu-bio.com/blog/2015/07/02/pei-transfection-patents-to-expire/ 13:38 < kanzure> we were just talking about PEI actually 13:38 < kanzure> for mammalian cells 13:38 < kanzure> in gp-write conference call today 13:40 < CaptHindsight> small world 13:41 < kanzure> they wanted to know about inserting large chromosomes and plasmids 13:41 < kanzure> wanted to know about the electroporator that nmz787 was working on 13:41 < kanzure> but he wasn't awake 13:41 < kanzure> because timezones 13:42 < CaptHindsight> yeah, sleep schedules 13:51 -!- Gurkenglas 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advantage of having a liquid handling robot 15:57 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:59 < CaptHindsight> how many Biologists does it take to handle a liquid? 16:01 < CaptHindsight> X, 1 to hold the pipette, and X to move, rotate the table, tray, room, lab etc 16:14 -!- Douhet [~Douhet@unaffiliated/douhet] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:15 -!- Douhet [~Douhet@unaffiliated/douhet] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:22 < kanzure> yashgaroth: the gp-write people are worried about chromosome delivery into cells. why not sperm? 16:22 < kanzure> i guess that moves the same problem up the stack 16:30 < nmz787> sperm are cells 16:34 < kanzure> yes but they deliver chromosomes 16:34 < kanzure> these guys were complaining about chromosome delivery 16:35 < nmz787> well, yash will probably say that all cells want to divide (which is delivering chromosomes to their daughter cells) 16:36 < kanzure> well they were talking 'bout "cell fusion" 16:58 -!- 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demonstrator - YouTube 18:01 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@dslb-094-223-141-229.094.223.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:02 < kanzure> "The researchers use silver nanoparticles in conductive inks, which are capable of absorbing UV light, which is then converted into heat. This heat evaporates the solvents of the conductive ink and fuses together the silver nanoparticles. Per the University of Nottingham researchers, the process only affects the conductive inks, and does no harm to the adjacent printed polymers. The ... 18:03 < kanzure> ...researchers have then used the same compact, low-cost LED-based UV light to convert polymeric inks into solids in the same printing process to form multi-material 3D structures." 18:06 -!- augur [~augur@192.195.83.130] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:14 -!- jtimon [~quassel@164.31.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:27 -!- helleshin [~talinck@cpe-174-97-113-184.cinci.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:33 -!- darsie [~username@84-114-73-160.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:48 -!- helleshin [~talinck@cpe-174-97-113-184.cinci.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:50 -!- augur [~augur@192.195.83.130] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:58 -!- augur [~augur@192.195.83.130] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 19:00 -!- helleshin [~talinck@cpe-174-97-113-184.cinci.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 19:18 -!- yashgaroth [~yashgarot@2606:6000:cd4d:3300:9d08:4cd6:a708:fe9f] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:21 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@unaffiliated/malvolio] has quit [Quit: Malvolio] 19:23 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@unaffiliated/malvolio] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:23 -!- helleshin [~talinck@cpe-174-97-113-184.cinci.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:25 -!- emeraldgreen [~user@188.227.115.178] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:41 < kanzure> http://www.vision.org/epigenetic-model-of-aging-7298 19:42 -!- helleshin [~talinck@cpe-174-97-113-184.cinci.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 19:45 -!- rpifan_ [~rpifan@207-244-191-189-dhcp.mia.fl.atlanticbb.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:48 -!- rpifan [~rpifan@207-244-191-189-dhcp.mia.fl.atlanticbb.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 19:55 -!- rpifan_ [~rpifan@207-244-191-189-dhcp.mia.fl.atlanticbb.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:56 -!- rpifan [~rpifan@207-244-191-189-dhcp.mia.fl.atlanticbb.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:24 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:26 -!- justan0theruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:26 -!- justan0theruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Client Quit] 20:26 -!- justan0theruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:27 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 20:30 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:36 -!- helleshin [~talinck@cpe-174-97-113-184.cinci.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:46 -!- helleshin [~talinck@cpe-174-97-113-184.cinci.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:53 -!- night [~Adifex@unaffiliated/adifex] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:53 -!- Douhet [~Douhet@unaffiliated/douhet] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:54 < MrHindsight> silver is more expensive than copper so you make a copper nanoparticle coated with a oxygen barrier that vaporizes when exposed to UV 20:55 < MrHindsight> the same UV polymerizes photopolymers 21:00 < rpifan> MrHindsight, r u making organs yet 21:07 -!- helleshin [~talinck@cpe-174-97-113-184.cinci.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:09 -!- Douhet [~Douhet@unaffiliated/douhet] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:14 -!- helleshin [~talinck@cpe-174-97-113-184.cinci.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 21:19 < MrHindsight> "If you ignore the FDA, then you can treat one person for a million dollars, but you have to go to Colombia and Bali, where there’s no FDA oversight or regulatory compliance." 21:31 < MrHindsight> Bali is very nice 21:35 < ebowden> How much safety does this FDA oversight actually bring? 21:38 < MrHindsight> or you can treat people for a few thousand dollars and still make a profit in Bali 21:40 < MrHindsight> since the system is gamed, you'll just be lumped in with snake oil, even if it's something as simple as gene splicing/swapping 21:41 < MrHindsight> ebowden: the FDA brings as much safety as they say they bring safety :) who are you to question them? 21:51 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:55 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:08 -!- yashgaroth [~yashgarot@2606:6000:cd4d:3300:9d08:4cd6:a708:fe9f] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:24 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:38 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 22:41 -!- augur [~augur@192.195.83.130] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:41 -!- augur [~augur@192.195.83.130] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:42 -!- augur [~augur@192.195.83.130] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:52 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:11 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:15 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:15 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:1074:bc00:30d6:7fc:a3f0:a01a] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:15 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:1074:bc00:30d6:7fc:a3f0:a01a] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:26 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-adpmxbtlkkmomigj] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:53 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:55 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap --- Log closed Thu Nov 16 00:00:16 2017