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01:08 < night> mrdata: yes
01:08 < night> several proposed examples of non-reproducing individuals that promote the survival of the species as a whole
01:09 < night> see: post-menopausal women as repositories of wisdom and knowledge
01:09 < night> also homosexual individuals as protectors free from child rearing
01:10 < night> can swing the other way too, where long gestation times in neanderthals led to possibly more developed or advanced offspring but eventually led to the extinction of the race
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03:26 < DataPacRat> After looking over http://www.informationisbeautiful.net/visualizations/snake-oil-scientific-evidence-for-nutritional-supplements-vizsweet/ , I'm considering my current el-cheapo "stack", and wondering where I should go to seek suggestions for the next tweak. Anyone here have suggestions?
03:26 < yoleaux> 2 Dec 2017 15:47Z <fenn> DataPacRat: http://ebay.com/itm/222172849164 and a small usb battery should work. i had an earlier version but it was killed by an evil usb charger. ymmv
03:33 < DataPacRat> fenn: That PM2.5 gizmo looks like it uses the same sensor as https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-PM2-5-indoor-air-quality-testing-instrument-Car-portable-haze-test/272961809313 , and they both look USB-powered, and both about $20 (incl shipping); any thoughts about which might be more portable/handy/useful/etc?
03:55 < abetusk> https://www.dantelabs.com/collections/our-tests/products/whole-genome-sequencing
03:55 < abetusk> Claims 30x WGS for 649 EUR
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06:37 < kanzure> bbrittain: greetings.pn
06:37 < kanzure> .png
06:40 < kanzure> in other happenings: parahsailin suggests reversible terminators for dna synthesis too, based on illumina dye sequencing :-/
06:40 < kanzure> i guess this should be put in an earlier section of that document
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06:43 < kanzure> 'all-optical electrophysiological characterization of human disease models' http://www.qstatebio.com/our-technology/
06:44 < kanzure> abetusk: thanks. let's order that.
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06:48 < kanzure> .title https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2017-December/015350.html
06:48 < yoleaux> [bitcoin-dev] Scalable Semi-Trustless Asset Transfer via Single-Use-Seals and Proof-of-Publication
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09:14 < nmz787> zzzzzippp!
09:14 < kanzure> need something?
09:15 < nmz787> just a friend
09:15 < nmz787> ;(
09:15 < nmz787> err   );
09:15  * nmz787 needs moar time
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09:19 < bbrittain> kanzure: sup
09:21 < kanzure> world domination stuff
09:22 < bbrittain> seems about right
09:22 < kanzure> music! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9pgIVcB3rk
09:22 < bbrittain> I'm in a cafe in NYC, they got some funky jazz on
09:23 < kanzure> pm
09:25 < nmz787> bbrittain still at RIT?
09:26 < nmz787> oh, you just said no
09:26 < nmz787> :)
09:26 < nmz787> are you still attending?
09:26 < bbrittain> nmz787: fuck no! I've been out of there for a while
09:26 < bbrittain> I'm in NYC right now, on the job hunt
09:26 < nmz787> ah
09:26 < bbrittain> just came back from a long trip (6 months)
09:26 < nmz787> you were in comp sci right?
09:26 < bbrittain> yupper
09:27 < nmz787> go anywhere interesting?
09:27 < bbrittain> rode a motorcycle from South Africa to Tanzania
09:27 < bbrittain> so, yeah
09:27 < nmz787> nice
09:27 < nmz787> what kind of bike?
09:27 < bbrittain> klr650
09:27 < nmz787> long way up, eh?
09:27 < nmz787> nice, I've got a KLR
09:27 < bbrittain> me too! It's just in storage in Dar Es Salaam now :P
09:27 < nmz787> hehe
09:28 < bbrittain> wanted to go all the way to Israel, but real life started calling again
09:34 < nmz787> bbrittain: what sort of jobs are you looking for?
09:34 < bbrittain> nmz787: where are you at now?
09:34 < nmz787> i.e. web dev, computer engineering, etc?
09:34 < nmz787> bbrittain: at the Intel office I work at, just outisde Portland OR
09:34 < bbrittain> nmz787: I've got some team placement interviews at Google today
09:35 < bbrittain> I'm a backend person, kinda excited about the chance to work on Fuchsia
09:35 < bbrittain> but they'll probably want me to go to SF or MV for that, which would be sad :(
09:35 < nmz787> hmm, never heard of it outside of it being a color
09:35 < bbrittain> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Fuchsia
09:36 < nmz787> .wik google fuchsia
09:36 < yoleaux> "Fuchsia is a capability-based, real-time operating system (RTOS) currently being developed by Google. It was first discovered as a mysterious code post on GitHub in August 2016, without any official announcement." — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Fuchsia
09:36 < bbrittain> I mean, a chance to work on an open-source operating system and get payed for it might make me move to SF
09:37 < gradstudentbot> It's contaminated.
09:37 < nmz787> backend sounds more like webservers to me
09:37 < nmz787> sounds like you are into OSes
09:38 < bbrittain> eh, maybe? maybe "low-level" is better
09:38 < bbrittain> I'm happy to work on things like RPC systems, web servers (like... the server), build systems, OSes, thingys like that
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09:40 < eudoxia> I'm glad Google is trying to replace the Unix clusterfuck with something new
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09:46 < nmz787> .wik minix
09:47 < yoleaux> "MINIX (from "mini-Unix") is a POSIX-compliant (since version 2.0), Unix-like computer operating system based on a microkernel architecture." — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minix
09:47 < nmz787> most widely used OS
09:47 < nmz787> (according to some people)
09:50 < bbrittain> we should all use plan9 guys, obv
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09:52 < nmz787> "All Intel chipsets post-2015 are running MINIX 3 internally as the software component of the Intel Management Engine."
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11:38 < juri_> glad i don't own any of those.
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12:22 < kanzure> .wik grigory rodchenkov
12:22 < yoleaux> "Grigory Mikhailovich Rodchenkov (Russian: Григорий Михайлович Родченков; born 24 October 1958) is the former director of a Moscow laboratory, the Anti-Doping Centre, which was suspended by the World Anti-Doping Agency in November 2015." — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grigory_Rodchenkov
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12:23 < kanzure> icarus documentary of same i guess https://www.netflix.com/title/80168079
12:25 < gradstudentbot> I think I'd like to try to write the paper myself.
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12:53 < nmz787> juri_: I can't complain too much... my SEM has an old Intel property tag on it
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12:54 < kanzure> eb3c90: be greeted
12:55 < eb3c90> Hey Kanzure. I'm just going to read some of the logs for the past few days, to see what is happening.
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13:05 < eb3c90> Electronic manipulation of polymerase is a very cool idea.
13:05 < kanzure> yes
13:11 < eb3c90> It just needed to be said. I'm getting close to testing out some of the automatic computational resource allocation stuff I'm working on. I should do a write up of it when I've got it workin.
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13:17 < eb3c90> I can also recommend Neverness.
13:17  * eb3c90 gets back to work
13:17 < jrayhawk> Icarus' central thesis was that the Sochi Olympic success bought the political capital to invade Ukraine, which seemed like an odd claim.
13:18 < jrayhawk> I guess it's in the documentarian's interest to frame it as dramatically as possible.
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13:40 < nmz787> Icarus is also some SystemVerilog compiler
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14:39 < nmz787> "I’ve been assuming it’s easier to move the DNA to the sequencer… but maybe I should reconsider how to move the sequencer to a fixed-location DNA"
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14:50 < kanzure> well that's what all those FISSEQ things are about
14:50 < kanzure> in situ sequencing
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16:44 < JayDugger> Neverness?
16:46 < eb3c90> Sci-fi book Kanzure mentioned a couple of days a go. Very post-human. Not as hard scifi as Egan, but more satisfying than the Quantum Thief.
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17:29 < kanzure> JayDugger: it's one of my favorites.
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17:38 < JayDugger> The David Zindell book came to mind, but I couldn't tell from the context if that was meant.
17:45 < kanzure> https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/missions/europa-clipper/
17:47 < kanzure> europa clipper update thing https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/missions/europa-clipper/
17:47 < kanzure> er, i mean http://sites.nationalacademies.org/cs/groups/ssbsite/documents/webpage/ssb_183287.pdf
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19:13 < kanzure> blort
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20:38 < kanzure> alright fine
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