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06:30 <@kanzure> https://www.technologyreview.com/s/609722/crispr-in-2018-coming-to-a-human-near-you/
06:30 <@kanzure> https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/gene-therapy-for-rare-form-of-blindness-wins-us-approval/2017/12/19/3c40130a-e4de-11e7-927a-e72eac1e73b6_story.html
06:48 < bluebear_> one, two, CRISPR comes for you
06:48 < bluebear_> three, four, it's almost at your door
06:49 <@kanzure> ?
06:50 < bluebear_> no worries, just an immediate idea :-)
06:50 < bluebear_> it would be good to have CRISPRs at our door already; I know more than one person who might help from CRISPR in vivo therapy if it were sufficiently advanced
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07:49 <@kanzure> apparently sooam has been doing pet cloning illegaly, stole IP from https://viagenpets.com/ (apparently intrexon owns this pet cloning service)
07:57 <@kanzure> average litter size is 2.5
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10:16 < nmz787> adlai: yeah I have sort of resolved to accepting children as a reasonable workaround for life extension... haven't tested this theory yet, but maybe soon
10:18 < spurserh> nmz787: +1 (well, +2, as I have 2)
10:18 < nmz787> hehe
10:20 < nmz787> work even offers either 20k or 40k for conception assistance, i.e. in vitro fertilization... not sure if I have to prove bad at fertilization first or not... but selection of the 'smartest' embryo is def interesting
10:20 <@kanzure> .title https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15542669
10:20 < yoleaux> Speech Recognition Is Not Solved | Hacker News
10:20 < nmz787> 'ok google'
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10:21 < spurserh> nmz787: 'eh? you're looking to go it alone raising kids?
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10:32 <@kanzure> spurserh: no, he wants to pick out high quality embryos
10:32 <@kanzure> spurserh: you harvest embryos from your significant other, and then you interrogate all of them, until you find one that you like
10:33 < spurserh> ahh
10:33 <@kanzure> er, eggs
10:33 < spurserh> interesting
10:33 <@kanzure> bunch of companies offering that service already, i think..... but i want to edit the genome during those steps.
10:34 < nmz787> spurserh: yeah I have a partner, just looking to skip out on the whole question of whether it has Down's syndrome, etc... and at the same time why not score the non-mutated embryos based on intelligence markers
10:34 < nmz787> they mix the eggs and sperm, then let them grow into a ball of several cells, then remove a cell or two and sequence or do microarrays
10:35 < nmz787> then implant the top choice
10:35 < JayDugger> Discussed with significant other?
10:35 < nmz787> yea
10:35 < spurserh> nmz787: certainly a less traumatic and more human way than the usual Down's test + abortion
10:36 < spurserh> nmz787: seen Gattaca
10:36 < spurserh> nmz787: I'm sure?
10:36 < spurserh> *humane
10:36 < spurserh> wow I cannot type
10:36 < nmz787> well... i don't think abortion after implantation is easier
10:36 < nmz787> def not
10:36 < nmz787> it's not like a magic vaporizing ray
10:36 < spurserh> nmz787: I'm saying, not implanting the Down's one is a lot more humane
10:36 < spurserh> nmz787: than having an abortion later on
10:37 < nmz787> they either use basically pliers to crack the baby apart and pull it out piece by piece... or induce labor
10:37 < nmz787> oh, yeah
10:37 < nmz787> fo sho
10:37 < nmz787> "than the usual way"
10:37 < nmz787> I skipped the "than"
10:38 < spurserh> for anyone who hasn't seen it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gfi0O3p6k0
10:38 < nmz787> .title
10:38 < yoleaux> Excerpt from GATTACA - YouTube
10:41 < nmz787> :)
10:45 < nmz787> https://github.com/pycroscopy/pycroscopy
10:45 < nmz787> .title
10:45 < yoleaux> GitHub - pycroscopy/pycroscopy: Utilities for scientific analysis of nanoscale imaging data
10:45 < nmz787> 10:45 < nmz787> .title
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14:29 <@kanzure> .title https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-017-08807-z
14:29 < yoleaux> Biohackers can boost trust in biology
14:29 <@kanzure> meh.
14:29 < nmz787> yeah I am getting snooty
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14:51 <@kanzure> https://www.wired.com/story/silicon-valleys-immortalists-will-help-us-all-stay-healthy/
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15:50 < nmz787> I am corrupted by Homer Simpson mistaking his copy of Wired as "Weird"
15:51 < nmz787> https://frinkiac.com/caption/S10E23/89105
15:53 < nmz787> "the internet? that old thing still around?"
15:54 < nmz787> not after 2017 ended net neutrality Homer
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15:57  * nmz787 sigh if only life were so easy as Homer makes it look
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18:41 < streety> I've just been invited to a meeting where, among other topics, bitcoin will be discussed. Paul McNeal will be giving a talk. Is he known to anyone here? Likely to be informative?
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18:41 < streety> apparently runs The Crypto Curator FB group
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18:42 < streety> I'll probably go anyway for the rest of the discussion but curious to know how seriously to take the bitcoin part
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20:49 <@kanzure> hm
22:12 < nmz787> no sir, I don't like it
22:14 < nmz787> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDGlN6mluGA
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