--- Log opened Fri Jan 05 00:00:03 2018 00:05 -!- darsie [~username@84-114-73-160.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:24 -!- darsie [~username@84-114-73-160.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:35 -!- sachy [~sachy@78.108.102.220] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:43 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@unaffiliated/malvolio] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:43 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@unaffiliated/malvolio] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:52 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:11a6:8600:4937:8302:30f7:db22] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:52 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:11a6:8600:78fc:5284:1dc:5782] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:57 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:11a6:8600:78fc:5284:1dc:5782] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:47 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@unaffiliated/malvolio] has quit [Quit: sleep] 02:10 -!- helleshin [~talinck@cpe-174-97-113-184.cinci.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:42 -!- helleshin [~talinck@cpe-174-97-113-184.cinci.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:53 -!- Kilo [31b21d00@gateway/web/freenode/ip.49.178.29.0] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:04 -!- Kilo [31b21d00@gateway/web/freenode/ip.49.178.29.0] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:16 -!- helleshin [~talinck@cpe-174-97-113-184.cinci.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:22 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@110.141.70.22] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:31 -!- Iriez [wario@distribution.xbins.org] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:41 -!- Iriez [wario@distribution.xbins.org] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:42 -!- helleshin [~talinck@cpe-174-97-113-184.cinci.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:53 -!- helleshin [~talinck@cpe-174-97-113-184.cinci.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:33 -!- darsie [~username@84-114-73-160.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:49 -!- fluke`` [~user@193.165.236.254] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:52 -!- fluke` [~user@193.165.236.254] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 06:03 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@183.82.170.54] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:21 < kanzure> "Ultrafast near-infrared light-triggered intracellular uncaging to probe cell signalling" https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29176940 06:55 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 07:26 -!- fluke`` [~user@193.165.236.254] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 08:32 -!- SkunkFox [~Foxie@cpe-107-15-31-224.nc.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:11 -!- abetusk [~abe@68.175.143.22] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:26 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@unaffiliated/malvolio] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:32 -!- drewbot [~cinch@174.129.148.151] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:37 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:842d:4054:d5cf:344e:df10:15a2] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:38 -!- drewbot [~cinch@54.157.199.122] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:42 -!- dustinm [~dustinm@68.ip-149-56-14.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:44 -!- dustinm [~dustinm@68.ip-149-56-14.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:55 < kanzure> .title https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16078532 09:55 < yoleaux> Germany vs. Elsevier: universities win temporary free journal access | Hacker News 10:05 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@5.196.225.175] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:33 -!- sachy [~sachy@78.108.102.220] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:33 -!- midnightmagic [~midnightm@unaffiliated/midnightmagic] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:02 -!- fluke`` [~user@isp-31-222-3-90.saowifi.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:17 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@183.82.170.54] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 11:31 -!- NikopolSohru [~NSohru@s5596eed8.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:34 -!- SkunkFox [~Foxie@cpe-107-15-31-224.nc.res.rr.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:42 -!- darsie [~username@84-114-73-160.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:59 -!- helleshin [~talinck@cpe-174-97-113-184.cinci.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:01 -!- fluke`` [~user@isp-31-222-3-90.saowifi.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:13 -!- cluckj [~cluckj@static-74-109-39-133.phlapa.ftas.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:25 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qxdgkezmgydtrxni] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:07 < andytoshi> i'm thinking about buying an amscope b120c-e1 microscope. does anyone have any thoughts about this? 15:13 < MrHindsight> https://www.amazon.com/AmScope-B120C-E1-Siedentopf-Magnification-Illumination/dp/B009VUPIKM 15:14 < MrHindsight> remember to remove the USB cable before viewing with both eyes 15:14 < andytoshi> lol 15:15 -!- pasky_ [~pasky@nikam.ms.mff.cuni.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:16 < MrHindsight> andytoshi: check ebay or the auctions for used 15:18 < andytoshi> looks like amazon is cheapest today 15:19 < MrHindsight> only a 1.3MP Camera 15:20 < andytoshi> yeah, it's a crappy camera but it's actually cheaper than the model without a camera because there's a special 15:20 < andytoshi> worst case i throw it away and use my cell cam 15:21 < MrHindsight> you can swap cameras later 15:21 < andytoshi> yeah, that too 15:22 -!- pasky [~pasky@nikam.ms.mff.cuni.cz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:23 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@5.196.225.175] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:29 < kanzure> .wik fluorescence microscope 15:29 < yoleaux> "A fluorescence microscope is an optical microscope that uses fluorescence and phosphorescence instead of, or in addition to, reflection and absorption to study properties of organic or inorganic substances." — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluorescence_microscope 15:30 < kanzure> .wik confocal microscopy 15:30 < yoleaux> "Confocal microscopy, most frequently confocal laser scanning microscopy (CLSM), is an optical imaging technique for increasing optical resolution and contrast of a micrograph by means of using a spatial pinhole to block out-of-focus light in image formation." — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confocal_microscopy 15:31 < andytoshi> i think for now i'll stick with the normal optical one .. this is $200, it looks like fluorescence microscopes are in the $2-10k range 15:31 < andytoshi> so i'd need a pretty good reason :) 15:37 < kanzure> alright 15:37 < nmz787> andytoshi: I got a fluoro scope from a thrift store years ago for <=$50 15:37 < andytoshi> nmz787: oh, cool, i'll keep my eyes open 15:37 < nmz787> yeah that and craigslist can have pretty sporadic-but-awesome deals 15:38 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@eli219.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:54 < kanzure> .title https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16079735n 15:54 < yoleaux> kanzure: Sorry, that doesn't appear to be an HTML page. 15:55 < kanzure> "The article complains that the Stanford team is biased because they are not using sequences to represent the molecular structures. But this actually makes a lot of sense because molecular structures are graphs. The article then goes on to say that the Stanford team has an agenda to get everyone to use deepchem instead of TensorFlow or PyTorch. But TensorFlow is a dependency in deepchem, and ... 15:55 < kanzure> ...deepchem looks like a bunch of useful tools wrapped around TensorFlow."n 15:55 < kanzure> .title https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16079735 15:55 < yoleaux> AI in drug discovery is overhyped: examples from AstraZeneca, Harvard, Stanford | Hacker News 15:56 < kanzure> .title https://arxiv.org/abs/1706.06689 15:56 < yoleaux> [1706.06689] Chemception: A Deep Neural Network with Minimal Chemistry Knowledge Matches the Performance of Expert-developed QSAR/QSPR Models 15:56 < kanzure> .title https://arxiv.org/abs/1712.02734 15:56 < yoleaux> [1712.02734] ChemNet: A Transferable and Generalizable Deep Neural Network for Small-Molecule Property Prediction 15:57 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@eli219.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:19 < kanzure> "Observation of current-induced, long-lived persistent spin polarization in a topological insulator: A rechargeable spin battery" http://advances.sciencemag.org/content/3/4/e1602531 16:22 < kanzure> "Machine learning in materials informatics: recent applications and prospects" https://www.nature.com/articles/s41524-017-0056-5 16:23 -!- fluke` [~user@193.165.236.254] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:34 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qxdgkezmgydtrxni] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 16:48 < kanzure> http://www.andreykurenkov.com/writing/a-brief-history-of-neural-nets-and-deep-learning/ 16:48 < kanzure> http://www.andreykurenkov.com/writing/a-brief-history-of-neural-nets-and-deep-learning-part-2/ 16:48 < kanzure> http://www.andreykurenkov.com/writing/a-brief-history-of-neural-nets-and-deep-learning-part-3/ 16:48 < kanzure> http://www.andreykurenkov.com/writing/a-brief-history-of-neural-nets-and-deep-learning-part-4/ 16:51 -!- midnightmagic [~midnightm@unaffiliated/midnightmagic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:29 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:35 < kanzure> testicular organoids https://link.springer.com/protocol/10.1007/7651_2017_48 17:35 < kanzure> http://www.cell.com/stem-cell-reports/abstract/S2213-6711(16)30274-0 17:37 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@jaboja.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:47 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@dslb-094-223-133-187.094.223.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:49 -!- drewbot [~cinch@54.157.199.122] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:00 < kanzure> "The poor take-up of sperm banks offering “superior” sperm, she says, already shows that. For most women, “the emotional significance of reproduction outweighs any notion of ‘optimisation’”. Charo feels that “our ability to love one another with all our imperfections and foibles outweighs any notion of ‘improving’ our children through genetics”." 18:00 < kanzure> that does not seem to factor in the idea of, uh, taking out follies... sperm banks offer *different* fathers. 18:01 < kanzure> https://www.theguardian.com/science/2017/jan/08/designer-babies-ethical-horror-waiting-to-happen 18:01 < kanzure> https://www.theguardian.com/science/2016/dec/02/kazuo-ishiguro-were-coming-close-to-the-point-where-we-can-create-people-who-are-superior-to-others 18:02 < kanzure> "we can create people who are superior to others" hooray 18:03 < kanzure> https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2017/08/us-scientists-edit-human-embryos-with-crisprand-thats-okay/535668/ 18:19 -!- Avian-Anathema_ [~Garret@165.227.217.42] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:19 -!- Joshchamp_ [sid159459@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vbshvsezoovrfsgi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:21 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@jaboja.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:22 -!- preview_ [~quassel@2407:7000:842d:4054:d5cf:344e:df10:15a2] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:22 -!- thundara_ [~thundara@104.236.109.149] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:22 -!- thundara [~thundara@104.236.109.149] has quit [Disconnected by services] 18:26 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: EnabrinTain, Avian-Anathema, Joshchamp, preview 18:33 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@eld227.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:34 < yoleaux> kanzure: make an open-source somethig something (genemods) 18:38 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@eld227.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:42 -!- helleshin [~talinck@cpe-174-97-113-184.cinci.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:51 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@jaboja.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:53 -!- helleshin [~talinck@cpe-174-97-113-184.cinci.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:53 < kanzure> hmm 18:54 < kanzure> yes.. right on schedule. 19:13 -!- darsie [~username@84-114-73-160.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:15 -!- darsie [~username@84-114-73-160.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:20 -!- darsie [~username@84-114-73-160.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:20 -!- darsie [~username@84-114-73-160.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:22 < jrayhawk> brb sitting is unhealthy *goes out to smoke* *comes back to sit some more* 19:24 < kanzure> hm? 20:10 -!- Douhet [~Douhet@unaffiliated/douhet] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:14 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@unaffiliated/malvolio] has quit [Quit: ORGANS IN MAINS] 20:17 -!- EnabrinTain [sid11525@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-sypedvaofsrdzevd] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:24 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@183.82.170.54] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:47 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@jaboja.pl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:49 -!- augur_ [~augur@c-73-125-99-173.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 21:35 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@unaffiliated/malvolio] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:50 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@dslb-094-223-133-187.094.223.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:50 -!- traumschule [~traumschu@46.4.40.247] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:56 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:56 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Client Quit] 21:59 < kanzure> .wik genetic lottery 21:59 < yoleaux> kanzure: Sorry, that command (.wik) crashed. 22:00 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:07 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/kanzure/status/949522691652046848 22:07 < yoleaux> It's unclear to me whether the genetic lottery is legal. 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