--- Log opened Fri Apr 20 00:00:53 2018 00:14 -!- augur [~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:14 -!- augur [~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:27 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@dslb-188-102-077-078.188.102.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:54 -!- aeiousomething [aeiousomet@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:59 -!- augur [~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:15 -!- augur [~augur@199-241-201-187.PUBLIC.monkeybrains.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:16 < adlai> kanzure: hey now, in their defense, i have a citation in somewhat-published algorithm engineering pulpazines, thanks to a iota people 02:16 < adlai> it's probably late to start a "we get cited without ever publishing" party, but maybe they'll let me join someday 02:19 < adlai> this being Laurence Tennant's paper, "Improving the Anonymity of the IOTA Cryptocurrency". i've not read this paper and am not sure why i should, but it cites me and i corresponded with the author, in other words, "i wipe my hands of all that" 02:19 -!- augur [~augur@199-241-201-187.PUBLIC.monkeybrains.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:19 < adlai> "Attaining a suitable level of plausible deniability about one?s transactionhistory may represent sufficient anonymity for most users" this sounds just like me. 10/10 02:20 -!- aeiousomething [aeiousomet@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 02:20 < adlai> the quote doesn't actually appear in https://archive.is/2aqcZ but who shakes, i'm not the censorship mafia. i'm the thorn stuck in their ass :) 02:23 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@128.250.0.209] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:43 < TMA> adlai: I have heard 'plausible deniability' being used as an evidence for. the argument went: "scheme X offers plausible deniability of Y. you are suspect of Y and you are using X. if you did not do Y, you would need X for plausible deniability, therefore X is an evidence for you doing Y." 02:43 -!- jtimon [~quassel@142.29.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:43 < adlai> that's exactly what someone wearing a TLA would say. 02:43 < TMA> *you would not need X 02:45 < TMA> it is a good argument when viewed in isolation 02:48 < TMA> it is akin to "you are suspect of insurance fraud. you have put a lock on your allegedly burglarized apartment door. the lock looks broken. having a broken lock enables you to claim burglarization attempt. if you were not performing a insurance fraud, you would not need a broken lock to demonstrate burglary. therefore having a broken lock is evidence for your insurance fraud. you have even admitted to putting the lock there in the first place" 02:51 < TMA> adlai: how can you wear a Three Letter Abbreviation? 02:52 < adlai> on your face 02:52 < adlai> the insurance racket is a wonderful tool, fwiw. irl ksp. 02:56 < TMA> adlai: cool story, bro. dafuq ksp? 02:58 < adlai> the other day, circa two years ago, i had to interrupt some pedestrians to ask them whether they were familiar with the institute for practical astrophysics. if you'd been there, you could hear the iron balls thudding into the sandbox, occasionally clicking when a lazy shotputter accidentally hit a target. 02:59 < adlai> but maybe you're asking about kerbal space program? 02:59 * adlai isn't much of a ... simulation jockey 03:00 -!- bluebear_ [~dluhos@80.95.97.194] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:00 -!- justan0theruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:02 < TMA> ah, now I am utterly flabbergasted, because I fail to see any connection whatsoever. Perhaps each of us speaks in a different language that just happen to look alike 03:05 < adlai> this happens sometimes, mr tetramethyl-alphamethyl-phenyl-ethyl-amine; but i wonder which of your benzene sigmae is empty. 03:11 < fenn> have you attained a suitable level of plausible deniability about your contributing authorship? 03:13 < adlai> all that's left is wiping away the fingerprints :) 03:14 < fenn> sigma is greek so it would be sigmas 03:27 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@unaffiliated/malvolio] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:10 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@124.123.14.99] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:21 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@unaffiliated/malvolio] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:28 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@dslb-188-102-077-078.188.102.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:53 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@124.123.14.99] has quit [Quit: leaving] 06:01 -!- mgxm [~mgxm@unaffiliated/mgxm] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:01 -!- mgxm [~mgxm@unaffiliated/mgxm] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:03 -!- aeiousomething [aeiousomet@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:05 < kanzure> hmph 06:12 < kanzure> adlai: thank you https://github.com/kanzure/diyhpluswiki/pull/13 06:12 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=1d497467 Adlai Chandrasekhar: nonexhaustive gapfilling >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/transcripts/scalingbitcoin/milan/joinmarket/ 06:12 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=eeb2a35c Bryan Bishop: Merge pull request #13 from adlai/master >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/ 06:33 -!- aeiousomething [aeiousomet@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 06:39 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@128.250.0.209] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:42 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@128.250.0.209] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:45 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=f970d235 Bryan Bishop: spleen size >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/genetic-modifications/ 06:47 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@128.250.0.209] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:48 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@128.250.0.209] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:49 -!- augur [~augur@199-241-201-187.PUBLIC.monkeybrains.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:51 -!- aeiousomething [aeiousomet@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:53 -!- augur [~augur@199-241-201-187.PUBLIC.monkeybrains.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:19 -!- potatope [sid139423@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wplxtqxgybaadype] has quit [] 07:20 -!- potatope [sid139423@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-codabbvautiojytd] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:37 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@unaffiliated/malvolio] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:58 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@dslb-188-102-077-078.188.102.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 08:17 < kanzure> hmm 08:18 -!- yashgaroth [~yashgarot@2606:6000:c308:f700:80a8:53c8:9c42:bc1f] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:20 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/TPilpel/status/987020802322259970 08:20 < yoleaux> Together with Jeff Gerst we discovered SECReTE - an ER RNA localization motif that destines proteins to secretion out of the cell. Adding the motif to an mRNA of a heterologous protein leads to its increased secretion. https://www.biorxiv.org/content/biorxiv/early/2018/04/17/303156.full.pdf https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DbKaLmMX0AAewQ4.jpg (@TPilpel) 09:54 -!- duper_ is now known as duper 10:17 < kanzure> .title https://vimeo.com/218527594 10:17 < yoleaux> The Beginning on Vimeo 11:05 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@dslb-188-102-077-078.188.102.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:11 -!- augur [~augur@199-241-201-187.PUBLIC.monkeybrains.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:32 -!- yashgaroth [~yashgarot@2606:6000:c308:f700:80a8:53c8:9c42:bc1f] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:47 -!- bsm1175321 [~mcelrath@173-9-124-61-NewEngland.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:05 -!- yashgaroth [~yashgarot@2606:6000:c308:f700:9464:8c6:fbde:714e] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:17 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@dslb-188-102-077-078.188.102.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:20 -!- bluebear_ [~dluhos@80.95.97.194] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:31 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@128.250.0.209] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:50 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@128.250.0.209] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:40 -!- soylentbomb [~k@unaffiliated/soylentbomb] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:44 -!- redlegion [~x@gateway/tor-sasl/redlegion] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:44 -!- redlegion [~x@gateway/tor-sasl/redlegion] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:53 -!- bsm1175321 [~mcelrath@173-9-124-61-NewEngland.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:04 -!- CaptHindsight [~2020@unaffiliated/capthindsight] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:19 -!- redlegion [~x@gateway/tor-sasl/redlegion] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:19 -!- redlegion [~x@gateway/tor-sasl/redlegion] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:19 -!- aeiousom1thing [~aeiousome@124.123.14.99] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:23 -!- aeiousom1thing [~aeiousome@124.123.14.99] has quit [Client Quit] 14:23 -!- aeiousomething [aeiousomet@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 14:23 -!- aeiousom1thing [aeiousomet@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:25 -!- bsm1175321 [~mcelrath@173-9-124-61-NewEngland.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 14:43 -!- aeiousom1thing [aeiousomet@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/aeiousomething] has quit [Quit: leaving] 14:44 -!- aeiousomething [aeiousomet@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:44 -!- aeiousomething [aeiousomet@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/aeiousomething] has quit [Client Quit] 14:45 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@124.123.14.99] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:06 -!- augur [~augur@199-241-201-187.PUBLIC.monkeybrains.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:17 -!- augur [~augur@104-244-24-85.PUBLIC.monkeybrains.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:25 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@124.123.14.99] has quit [Changing host] 15:25 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:36 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@128.250.0.209] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 15:40 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@128.250.0.209] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:49 -!- augur [~augur@104-244-24-85.PUBLIC.monkeybrains.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:51 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:19 < kanzure> blort 16:20 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@128.250.0.209] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:21 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@128.250.0.209] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:25 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@128.250.0.209] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:57 < JayDugger> trolb 16:58 < kanzure> hmm 17:08 -!- CandleGlow [~CandleGlo@unaffiliated/candleglow] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:11 -!- helleshin [~talinck@cpe-174-97-113-184.cinci.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:15 -!- hehelleshin [~talinck@cpe-174-97-113-184.cinci.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:44 -!- augur [~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:55 -!- augur [~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:56 -!- augur [~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:58 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@dslb-188-102-077-078.188.102.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:00 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:09 -!- winsoff [~bar@unaffiliated/winsoff] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:09 < winsoff> Okay, how the fuck is genetic drift somehow faster in smaller populations? Or is it "average genetic drift" that matters, here? 18:32 -!- jtimon [~quassel@142.29.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:33 < kanzure> .wik genetic drift 18:33 < yoleaux> "Genetic drift (also known as allelic drift or the Sewall Wright effect) is the change in the frequency of an existing gene variant (allele) in a population due to random sampling of organisms. The alleles in the offspring are a sample of those in the parents, and chance has a role in determining whether a given individual survives and reproduces." — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_drift 18:34 < kanzure> random sampling of smaller population -> more frequently get the same individuals. 18:58 -!- augur [~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:59 -!- augur [~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:34 -!- augur [~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:37 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@128.250.0.209] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:51 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@dslb-188-102-077-078.188.102.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:07 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:09 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:11 -!- wrldpc1 [~ben@bai859bf75e.bai.ne.jp] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:12 -!- l_wl [~l_wl@pool-173-66-205-23.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:13 -!- wrldpc1 [~ben@bai859bf75e.bai.ne.jp] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:26 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:38 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:47 -!- augur [~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:56 -!- yashgaroth [~yashgarot@2606:6000:c308:f700:9464:8c6:fbde:714e] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:34 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@unaffiliated/malvolio] has quit [Quit: SCIENTISTS PREDICT ICE AGE] 23:19 -!- augur [~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:20 -!- augur [~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap --- Log closed Sat Apr 21 00:00:23 2018