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07:00 <@fenn> +m should mean you need voice to send to the channel
07:01 -!- mode/##hplusroadmap [+vvv superkuh streety_ yoleaux] by fenn
07:04 <@fenn> +q $~a was supposed to mean you had to be registered to send, but that didn't work
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07:22 <@fenn> https://thebolditalic.com/9-places-for-nerds-to-hang-out-in-san-francisco-the-bold-italic-san-francisco-3a40a31f0d90
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07:23 <@fenn> i haven't been to the new exploratorium yet
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07:41 <@fenn> on the other side of the bay there's counter culture (the diybio lab)
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08:03  * fenn grumbles about sending text messages over SMS
08:04 <@fenn> you kids and your cellphones
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08:44 <+kanzure> pfft
08:46 <+kanzure> uh are the channel permissions fixed
08:46 <@fenn> no, the spammers are still trying, raziel2 for example was probably a spammer. they usually have names that end in 2 digits
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10:56 <@nmz787> fenn: I've just seen some spam without numbers
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11:39 <@fenn> reddit sez: "we learned that SMS-based authentication is not nearly as secure as we would hope, and the main attack was via SMS intercept. We point this out to encourage everyone here to move to token-based 2FA."
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11:57 <@nmz787> I've been using Signal for my SMS app
11:58 <@nmz787> it says it is encrypted
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16:51 <@nmz787> fenn: did you ever remove +m, and add +r ?
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17:09 <+kanzure> not sure we want registered-only
17:10 <@nmz787> but isn't everyone else silenced anyway, since they don't have +v ?
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17:17 <+kanzure> tcsc25: be greeted
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17:20 <@nmz787> [17:20] <testuserzyx> test [17:20] == Cannot send to channel: ##hplusroadmap
17:20 <@nmz787> nice echo-chamber we're going to have here
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17:29 <@fenn> hopefully the spam thing doesn't last long, otherwise i don't know what to do
17:29 <@fenn> if a new user joins and sticks around for a while, give them +v
17:30 <@nmz787> why not just require registration?
17:30 <@fenn> maybe there's some chanserv thing that can do this automatically with a configurable timer
17:30 <@nmz787> the system responds with a meaningful auto-reply at least
17:30 <@nmz787> telling them they need to identify... which they can google, and then perform
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17:31 <@nmz787> just saying "cannot send to channel" doesn't sound like a place where hanging around will get me the ability to ask or contribute
17:32 <@fenn> does +r tell the user they must be registered?
17:34 <@nmz787> that's what I've seen in other channels like #python I think
17:34 <@nmz787> i can try
17:34 <@nmz787> well... not exactly "Cannot send to channel: #python-unregistered"
17:35 <@nmz787> the auto-suffix is noticeable though
17:35 <@nmz787> and googleable
17:35 <@nmz787> the alignment in my two messages at #python is pretty nice
17:36 <@nmz787> fenn: also: 16:07 < X-Scale> azonenberg_work: thanks for setting +r on #antikernel. But they're still spamming from the outside of the channel because it's not +n
17:37 <@fenn> "messages from outside the channel cannot be sent to the channel." what does that even mean
17:37 <@fenn> you can send to a channel without even being in it?
17:37 <@fenn> that doesn't make any sense
17:38 <@nmz787> yeah
17:38 <@nmz787> 16:57 < mikeryan> PRIVMSG #whatever :plz send BTC thx
17:38 <@nmz787> 17:03 < X-Scale> nmz787: several of these IRC functionalities come from the old BITNET Relay (around 1985) -> http://web.inter.nl.net/users/fred/relay/relhis.html
17:40 <@fenn> ##hplusroadmap n ntcslk MODE cannot be set due to channel having an active MLOCK restriction policy
17:40 <@fenn> whatever that means
17:41 <@nmz787> :I sent this from #freesem
17:41 <@nmz787> there it is... I used /MSG
17:41 <@fenn> do it with testuserzyx
17:41 <@nmz787> i can't because it doesn't have +v
17:41 <@nmz787> (I tried earlier at least)
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