--- Log opened Sun Aug 19 00:00:44 2018 00:52 -!- Urchin [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:07 -!- pathfinder206 [~pathfinde@183.96.183.53] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:08 -!- pathfinder206 [~pathfinde@183.96.183.53] has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 01:09 < kanzure> "Distinct higher-order thalamic circuits channel parallel streams of visual information in mice" https://www.biorxiv.org/content/early/2018/08/18/395244 01:21 -!- sektor [~sektor@95.87.234.241] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:05 -!- loeken10 [~loeken@37.140.61.53] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:09 -!- loeken10 [~loeken@37.140.61.53] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:13 -!- dave49257 [~dave4925@pb6ab6864.szoknt01.ap.so-net.ne.jp] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:14 -!- dave49257 [~dave4925@pb6ab6864.szoknt01.ap.so-net.ne.jp] has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 02:26 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@unaffiliated/gurkenglas] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:02 -!- strages [uid11297@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dcpezhlnpkepkyne] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 03:03 -!- Urchin [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has quit [Quit: That's it for today] 03:10 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=bf838227 Bryan Bishop: essential fructosuria >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/genetic-modifications/ 03:25 -!- nemesys [~nemesys@176.49.141.136] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:25 -!- nemesys [~nemesys@176.49.141.136] has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 03:39 -!- Odd_ [~Odd_@1.228.250.173] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:42 -!- Odd_ [~Odd_@1.228.250.173] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:55 -!- ghoti16 [~ghoti@180.93.12.50] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:55 -!- ghoti16 [~ghoti@180.93.12.50] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:03 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@unaffiliated/malvolio] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:52 -!- Bonn33326 [~Bonn333@93.123.150.214] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:55 -!- Bonn33326 [~Bonn333@93.123.150.214] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:03 < fenn> "schbirid> hetzner has new storage servers <3 https://www.hetzner.de/dedicated-rootserver/matrix-sx 10 x 10 TB for 170€/m = 1.7€ per TB per month" 05:04 -!- Char0n [~Char0n@103.249.239.246] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:05 -!- Char0n [~Char0n@103.249.239.246] has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 05:08 -!- savoir-faire21 [~savoir-fa@S010600fc8deff513.va.shawcable.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:10 -!- LookingGlassSec [~LookingGl@112.184.38.59] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:11 -!- LookingGlassSec [~LookingGl@112.184.38.59] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:17 -!- savoir-faire21 [~savoir-fa@S010600fc8deff513.va.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 05:41 < kanzure> .title https://github.com/codahale/shamir 05:41 < yoleaux> GitHub - codahale/shamir: A Java implementation of Shamir's Secret Sharing algorithm over GF(256). 05:47 -!- jtimon 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of Immature Oocytes from human ovarian tissue | Evelyn Telfer - YouTube 08:59 < kanzure> .title https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLNtZ9vcsLeXwDEAITQR966h3QIbDdRjZD 08:59 < yoleaux> Ovarian Club VIII 2016 - YouTube 09:01 < kanzure> and other related playlists https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLNtZ9vcsLeXw-A7H0GnbORQqXViZsCONr https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLNtZ9vcsLeXy12tDOP2tD8d7ocZRyi8YE 09:03 < fenn> so the big idea is using "egg precursor cells" which exist in ovarian tissue but do not develop into eggs unless put in vitro and (secret sauce) 09:03 < fenn> is this really controversial or just the usual 09:04 < fenn> their cells look a lot smaller than a natural egg 09:04 < yashgaroth> primordial ovarian tissue, so I think they would develop into eggs in vivo as well 09:06 < fenn> in flies and fish apparently 09:06 < kanzure> follicle approach had recent progress http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/bio/in-vitro-fertilization/Metaphase%20II%20oocytes%20from%20human%20unilaminar%20follicles%20grown%20in%20a%20multi-step%20culture%20system%20-%202018.pdf 09:06 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:07 < fenn> "human egg precursor cells are believe to be largely dormant in situ" 09:08 < kanzure> also there was this in vitro tissue culture for "functional haploid spermatids" http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/bio/in-vitro-fertilization/Efficient%20generation%20of%20functional%20haploid%20spermatids%20from%20human%20germline%20stem%20cells%20by%20three-dimensional-induced%20system%20-%202018.pdf 09:08 < yashgaroth> like the orwig lab who're basically doing this but for testicular tissue; ostensibly for children with cancer whose germ cells get nuked by chemo, so they can potentially have kids later 09:08 < fenn> those poor cancer kids 09:09 < fenn> won't somebody think of the children's children 09:09 < kanzure> http://orwiglab.org/publications/ 09:09 < yashgaroth> hey at least it gets grant money 09:10 -!- strages [uid11297@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lrzfgvlxmqfrwrfw] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:12 < fenn> the paper references using embryonic stem cells to make egg cells (thomson 1998 reubinoff 2000) 09:12 < fenn> and iPSC in 2012 (yang, hayashi) 09:13 -!- See [~See@190-207-230-112.dyn.dsl.cantv.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:15 < kanzure> i wonder if there's a selection effect at play here where these researchers are mostly working with tissue samples from infertile people 09:16 -!- See [~See@190-207-230-112.dyn.dsl.cantv.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:18 < fenn> are they? or do they just use whatever tissue they can get 09:18 < fenn> maybe they're selecting for people who get in motorcycle accidents 09:19 < yashgaroth> that paper was tissue from women undergoing c-sections, not that they mention IVF status 09:25 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: juul, 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https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/granule/CFR-2013-title32-vol2/CFR-2013-title32-vol2-part219 20:11 < yoleaux> 32 CFR 219 - PROTECTION OF HUMAN SUBJECTS 20:14 < kanzure> https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CFR-2013-title32-vol2/pdf/CFR-2013-title32-vol2-part219.pdf 20:18 -!- dustinm [~dustinm@68.ip-149-56-14.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:27 -!- dustinm [~dustinm@68.ip-149-56-14.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:34 < kanzure> pro-infertility legislation tracking https://resolve.org/get-involved/advocate-for-access/current-legislation/state-bills/2018-state-advocacy-efforts/ 20:52 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:11 -!- TC [~talinck@cpe-174-97-113-184.cinci.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:14 -!- hehelleshin [~talinck@cpe-174-97-113-184.cinci.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:48 -!- jtimon [~quassel@213.28.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 22:11 -!- pskosinski23 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