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06:38 < kanzure> hmph
06:46 < fenn> fltrz what causes current usage in a MHD thruster?
06:50 < fenn> hmm nevermind it is the lorentz force so unrelated
06:50 < superkuh> The charges in the solar wind will be shielded from the extended electrical field of the electrical dipole at any distance more than $debyelength (~10m for solar wind at 1 AU). Additionally an electrical double layer may form shielding even more (outside the dipole).
06:57 < superkuh> Not that that changes the symmetry of forces felt on approach. Just another thing to consider.
07:02 < fltrz> I still don't see a static dipole accelerating (unless there is a gradient in the electric field already present in space)
07:03 < fltrz> fenn, regarding current: that's exactly my question. What is meant with a 500W dipole shield without describing the circuit of the applied electrical current through the sail
07:05 < fltrz> superkuh, you are describing a process that shields, but I don't understand what is shielding it?
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07:07 < fltrz> to the extent double layers form (or even tripple layers etc), it just results in a complication of my argument: for every charge that statically co-moves with the sail its force is symmetric as you say.
07:08 < fltrz> (if it co-moves it effectively becommes an implicit part of the sail)
07:09 < fltrz> fenn, I misread your question, I thought you asked about current usage in the dipole sail
07:10 < fenn> i'm just trying to get a handle on the physics by looking at a deployed technology, unfortunately the technology i was thinking of uses a completely different operating principle
07:10 < fenn> i thought they used grids, but no
07:11 < fltrz> right, for MHD an actuall current passes through as voltage is applied
07:15 < kanzure> "Scaling up molecular pattern recognition with DNA-based winner-take-all neural networks" https://authors.library.caltech.edu/84840/
07:18 < fltrz> superkuh, do you know a good review on solar wind and composition of vacuum in general throughout solar system (ignoring planets and possibly in the vicinity of each planet?)
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07:19 < superkuh> http://arxiv.org/abs/1301.2929
07:19 < fltrz> thanks
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07:54 < kanzure> .wik Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell
07:54 < yoleaux> "" — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Strange
08:01 < kanzure> .title https://github.com/dominictarr/your-web-app-is-bloated
08:01 < yoleaux> GitHub - dominictarr/your-web-app-is-bloated: measuring memory usage of popular webapps
08:03 < solene> nice
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08:04 < superkuh> s/geocities/github/
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10:16 < heath> .title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmSAYlu0NcY
10:16 < yoleaux> John Ousterhout: "A Philosophy of Software Design" | Talks at Google - YouTube
10:23 < kanzure> https://www.gwern.net/Embryo-selection
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11:18 < fltrz> https://www.elsevier.com/about/press-releases/research-and-journals/at-last-a-simple-3d-printer-for-metal
11:18 < fltrz> title is a bit clickbait though
11:19 < archels> so it's like tin printing, almost
11:22 < superkuh> I could be wrong, maybe it's only oxides of it, but wouldn't the beryllium in the material make it dangerous?
11:27 < fltrz> I agree, perhaps as a proof of concept they may shift attention to other BMG's I haven't read the actual scientific article yet, but I will. perhaps they mention the issue and describe their plans for future work
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19:18 < kanzure> hmph
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22:44 < nmz787> whee
22:45 < nmz787> I have compiled and uploaded the code associated with this article https://hackaday.com/2018/08/31/max1000-tutorial-is-quite-persistent/
22:45 < nmz787> trying to figure out the ROM bytes now
22:46 < nmz787> the 5x7 font .hex file the github repo has
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