--- Log opened Fri Sep 14 00:00:08 2018 00:35 -!- sektor [~sektor@95.87.234.241] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:54 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@unaffiliated/gurkenglas] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:58 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:05 -!- Douhet [~Douhet@unaffiliated/douhet] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:06 -!- Douhet [~Douhet@unaffiliated/douhet] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:11 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:20 -!- surrealpie2 [~surrealpi@p6fd82ee6.okymnt01.ap.so-net.ne.jp] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:22 -!- surrealpie2 [~surrealpi@p6fd82ee6.okymnt01.ap.so-net.ne.jp] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:30 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:51 -!- ebowden_ [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:55 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:05 -!- bleakbriar24 [~bleakbria@189.156.156.104] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:08 -!- bleakbriar24 [~bleakbria@189.156.156.104] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:17 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@unaffiliated/gurkenglas] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:33 -!- covesthur_ [~covesthur@109.206.55.212] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:36 -!- covesthur_ [~covesthur@109.206.55.212] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:39 -!- l_wl [~l_wl@pool-71-191-33-241.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:02 -!- LVK2672 [~LVK267@45.5.226.69] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:03 -!- LVK2672 [~LVK267@45.5.226.69] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:18 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zbwzknmrieupzkrt] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:41 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:15 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:15 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:55 -!- nanotube [~nanotube@unaffiliated/nanotube] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 07:00 -!- nanotube [~nanotube@unaffiliated/nanotube] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:07 < kanzure> i don't know typical inkjet nozzle diameter but you're looking at anywhere from 3 to 160 pL droplets 07:36 -!- tang^15 [~tang^@2402:800:610b:4b4d:b915:4bca:f706:2606] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:46 -!- tang^15 [~tang^@2402:800:610b:4b4d:b915:4bca:f706:2606] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:16 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zbwzknmrieupzkrt] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 08:30 -!- sachy [~sachy@78.108.102.220] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:31 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nvjveruyowwunqlp] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:37 -!- ebowden_ [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 08:43 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:56 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:56 -!- ebowden_ [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:58 -!- strages [uid11297@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nwuxkdbqgpwlucfu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:05 -!- Guest61633 [~himcesjf_@ALille-656-1-131-85.w90-47.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:08 -!- Guest61633 [~himcesjf_@ALille-656-1-131-85.w90-47.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:22 -!- yashgaroth [~yashgarot@2606:6000:c308:f700:8129:f749:bec7:aa60] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:39 < maaku> the bomb.bio people should know that bomb.io (what anyone would reasonably type) is a spam/malware server 09:48 -!- sachy [~sachy@78.108.102.220] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 09:51 -!- kfjohnson11 [~kfjohnson@110.77.238.111] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:55 -!- kfjohnson11 [~kfjohnson@110.77.238.111] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:55 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:07 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:10 < maaku> kanzure: if you find anyone willing to work on linux kernel code for storage let me know 10:10 < maaku> I want to revive the triple-parity software raid patches 10:11 < maaku> which are pretty important for decentralized archival of big data sets 10:12 < maaku> as brtfs is a mess and zfs doesn't support incremental reshaping as you add drives, or other features more typical of hobbyists on fixed budgets vs enterprise 10:20 < solene> maaku: isn't triple parity = raid 6 ? 10:25 < nmz787> maaku: lol, welp maybe a bunch of bio hackers are about to be PWNed 10:27 < nmz787> https://www.electropages.com/2018/09/gold-assembling-virus-genetically-engineered-nanoscale-electronic/ 10:35 < maaku> solene: triple-parity would be raid-7 10:35 < maaku> three redundant disks 10:35 < solene> ah right 10:36 < maaku> solene: RAID-6 is useless ... if you lose a disk due to mechanical failure then you become unable to recover from silent data corruption 10:36 < maaku> during the rebuild 10:37 < maaku> most people don't know because mdadm doesn't even bother to check for silent data corruption 10:37 < solene> i only use raid z2 10:38 < maaku> that's slightly better but you should be using z3 unless you have good backups 10:38 < solene> it's replcated using zfs send : 10:38 < solene> :) 10:38 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:54 < maaku> solene: I have 192 TB of storage behind a 1TB/mo limited internet connection 10:54 < kanzure> isn't that a mistake 10:54 < kanzure> that sounds bad 10:55 < maaku> kanzure: while not ideal, the point is we should have tools that make the best of this common(ish) scenario 10:55 < maaku> I have offsite backups of the irreplaceable stuff 10:56 < kanzure> it would be faster for you to physically mail in your data 10:56 < kanzure> literally put yourself on a plane and bring data with you 10:56 < maaku> yeah i know, when I move that's what I do 10:57 < maaku> i may eventually setup a second location and send incremental updates. 10:57 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@unaffiliated/gurkenglas] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:58 < maaku> kanzure: but my more pressing issue is getting the software tools to be able to build these things incrementally 10:59 < maaku> vs. spending >$10k at once to build a zfs server with effectively fixed capacity 11:08 -!- aeiousom1thing [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:09 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:17 -!- poronga [beb54b66@gateway/web/freenode/ip.190.181.75.102] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:18 -!- poronga [beb54b66@gateway/web/freenode/ip.190.181.75.102] has quit [Client Quit] 11:24 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:30 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:45 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:45 -!- archer12119 [~archer121@27.34.0.131] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:49 -!- dago [~dago@171.241.194.40] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:50 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:50 -!- archer12119 [~archer121@27.34.0.131] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:56 -!- dago [~dago@171.241.194.40] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:05 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:06 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nvjveruyowwunqlp] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 12:09 -!- l_wl [~l_wl@pool-71-191-33-241.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:13 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rlbcnexamqdjkbsm] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:33 -!- sektor [~sektor@95.87.234.241] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:33 -!- sektor [~sektor@95.87.234.241] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:35 < fenn> maaku we have fiber at my house now, although physical security is nonexistent 12:36 < fenn> 300MB/s down 100MB/s up or something like that 12:36 < fenn> hrm maybe it was mbit 12:44 < maaku> fenn: would be nice if such things existed in the city i live in 12:45 < maaku> I have plenty fast cable internet though. It's just subject to data limit caps 12:45 < fenn> our ISP is uncapped fwiw 12:46 < fenn> i guess it doesn't help much, but if you needed to upload some number of TB to elsewhere on the internet, feel free to drop by 12:49 < maaku> thanks 14:07 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:14 -!- aeiousom1thing [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:00 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@unaffiliated/gurkenglas] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:24 -!- l_wl [~l_wl@pool-71-191-33-241.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [] 15:33 < kanzure> "Evolution of deceptive and true courtship songs in moths" https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3687589/ 16:09 -!- van7779 [~van777@66-50-15-46.prtc.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:10 -!- van7779 [~van777@66-50-15-46.prtc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:27 < streety> Is that 192TB usable storage or before RAID? How many drives are you using? 16:41 -!- mrdata-- [~mrdata@unaffiliated/mrdata] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:52 -!- Rena15 [~Rena@59.10.207.101] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:52 -!- Rena15 [~Rena@59.10.207.101] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:07 -!- zivl [~zivl@181.46.231.13] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:12 -!- zivl [~zivl@181.46.231.13] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:17 -!- Vlad3 [~Vlad@138-204-69-252.wantel.net.br] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:17 -!- Vlad3 [~Vlad@138-204-69-252.wantel.net.br] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:36 -!- edson [~edson_@177.247.160.26] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:38 -!- edson [~edson_@177.247.160.26] has quit [Client Quit] 18:15 -!- strages [uid11297@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nwuxkdbqgpwlucfu] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 18:38 -!- mrdata-- [~mrdata@unaffiliated/mrdata] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:34 -!- Dece22 [~Dece@178.234.214.242] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:38 -!- Dece22 [~Dece@178.234.214.242] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:46 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rlbcnexamqdjkbsm] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 20:08 -!- Jay_Dugger [~jwdugger@47.185.249.138] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:21 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@unaffiliated/gurkenglas] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:43 < heath> hm, irssi isn't highlighting me when i'm mentioned. 20:45 < heath> justanotheruser: i have most of the talks in audio format from dna23 along with a hundred or so photos slides. i have a few of the talks from vemdp 2018 and a few of the slides 20:49 < heath> it's difficult for me to tell if you will enjoy the conferences, since i kind of barely know you :) 20:55 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@unaffiliated/gurkenglas] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:01 -!- ExeciN [~nicexe@bnc.stormbit.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:09 -!- TC [~talinck@cpe-174-97-113-184.cinci.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:12 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:12 -!- ebowden_ [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:12 -!- hehelleshin [~talinck@cpe-174-97-113-184.cinci.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:14 < heath> photos +"of the" slides +"from presentations" 21:34 < justanotheruser> nice, do you have them hosted anywhere? Or could you upload them for me? That would be awesome. 21:42 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:47 < heath> justanotheruser: yeah, no problem 21:47 < heath> what's your email? 21:48 < heath> feel free to PM that info if you don't want to share here 21:52 < heath> music https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBUCmMxmup0 22:11 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.1] 22:13 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:18 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:34 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:38 -!- justan0theruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:40 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:57 -!- justan0theruser is now known as justanotheruser 23:02 -!- FlibberTGibbet28 [~FlibberTG@110.9.236.84] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:07 -!- FlibberTGibbet28 [~FlibberTG@110.9.236.84] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:26 -!- dfee21 [~dfee@128.134.106.249] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:27 -!- dfee21 [~dfee@128.134.106.249] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:32 -!- yashgaroth [~yashgarot@2606:6000:c308:f700:8129:f749:bec7:aa60] has quit [Quit: Leaving] --- Log closed Sat Sep 15 00:00:09 2018