--- Log opened Sat Sep 15 00:00:09 2018 00:16 -!- refx_16 [~refx_@121.42.235.35] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:19 -!- refx_16 [~refx_@121.42.235.35] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:35 -!- Defcronyke27 [~Defcronyk@41.218.204.11] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:38 < archels> anyone ever try astaxanthin supplements? 00:44 -!- Defcronyke27 [~Defcronyk@41.218.204.11] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:55 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@unaffiliated/gurkenglas] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:35 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:40 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:57 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xeoljevkrnozevgh] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:10 -!- Tony995 [~Tony99@121.162.147.197] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:15 -!- Tony995 [~Tony99@121.162.147.197] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:16 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:19 -!- Tokoyami14 [~Tokoyami@148.0.44.182] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:22 -!- Tokoyami14 [~Tokoyami@148.0.44.182] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:23 -!- Joshchamp_ [sid159459@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kxasjbyzvxocrlpd] has quit [] 03:23 -!- Joshchamp_ [sid159459@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nmsmnobaykgimhpc] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:23 -!- Joshchamp_ [sid159459@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nmsmnobaykgimhpc] has quit [Client Quit] 03:24 -!- Joshchamp [sid159459@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-psmlqtxrxjanacpd] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:29 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:35 -!- Jaxan3 [~Jaxan@41.238.238.133] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:38 -!- Jaxan3 [~Jaxan@41.238.238.133] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:51 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:23 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 04:32 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:14 -!- ebowden_ [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:15 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:55 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:56 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:24 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:31 -!- ayekat26 [~ayekat@p3b92e5bd.okymnt01.ap.so-net.ne.jp] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:32 -!- ayekat26 [~ayekat@p3b92e5bd.okymnt01.ap.so-net.ne.jp] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:43 -!- Ferdirand21 [~Ferdirand@87.110.82.43] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:43 -!- Ferdirand21 [~Ferdirand@87.110.82.43] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:01 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:09 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:49 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:50 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:21 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@unaffiliated/gurkenglas] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:23 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@unaffiliated/gurkenglas] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:46 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Quit: Its never too late!] 08:47 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:51 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xeoljevkrnozevgh] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 09:23 < maaku> streety: usable after RAID. it's one of these cases : https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811219038 09:23 < maaku> with the stock fans swapped out for nearly silent ones 09:27 < streety> nice, I had been expecting it split across multiple systems with your comments about hobbyists on fixed budgets vs enterprise 09:30 < streety> Are you using RAID-0 with 8GB disks? 09:31 < maaku> 12GB disks, presently raidz3 (but I want to move off zfs) 09:32 < maaku> if money's not an issue, there's https://www.backuppods.com/collections/backblaze-storage-pod-6-0 09:32 < maaku> but the norco is cheaper 09:32 < fenn> TB i presume 09:32 < maaku> er, yeah 09:33 < maaku> streety: this started as a 4-disk raid6 with 2GB drives a decade ago. i mdadm --grow 09:34 < maaku> 'd it one drive at a time until I figured it reached safety limits of a single raid6 setup 09:34 < fenn> what sort of data are you storing that's so big? 09:35 < streety> I thought RAID-0 was unlikely but doubted you would be using more than 8TB drives 09:36 < maaku> I recently transitioned to 12tb drives. was a usable capacity of 52tb previously with a mix of 2tb and 6tb drives 09:36 < streety> what was the rationale for paying the premium for 12TB drives over using more smaller drives? 09:37 < maaku> initially some large data sets for machine learning, partial libgen backups, partial archive of arxiv, etc. 09:37 < streety> how much space does arxiv use? 09:38 < maaku> streety: so it fits in a single chassis i can comfortably put somewhere at home 09:39 < maaku> streety: not sure. i'd have to check (I'm not near it now) 09:40 < maaku> anyway more to the original point, I grew it incrementally using mdadm, then was forced to spend ~$5k to move to zfs 09:41 < streety> no worries, just curious on the arxiv size. Thanks for explaining the disk choice reasoning as well. I'm not sure I'd be willing to pay the premium for the convenience but I can see your point 09:41 < maaku> and now growth can only happen at the $5-10k expense range 09:41 < maaku> that's outside a hobbyist, except the most dedicated & financially secure 09:41 < maaku> it's on $38/TB vs, say, $34/TB for 8GB 09:41 < streety> hobbyist can span a large range, thats for sure 09:41 < maaku> "it's only" 09:42 < maaku> 12TB drives went down in price a lot recently, which is why I made the upgrade 09:43 < maaku> but what I would like is a fixed up mdadm that supports higher parity levels while maintaining the flexibility that mdadm is known for. 09:43 < streety> I'll have to look again, not that it really matters. I'm not yet quite filling a single 8TB drive 09:43 < maaku> array reshaping, dynamic growth, etc. 09:43 < maaku> streety: you use any form of raid? 09:44 -!- l_wl [~l_wl@pool-71-191-33-241.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:47 < streety> Not yet, my backups and data storage is a mess at the moment. I *think* all important data is on at least two local drives and on remote/cloud. It's poorly organized though. I've also been collecting a lot of data recently and only have local copies of that. I bought a 8TB drive aiming to create a single organized collection that I can then make deliberate decisions about 09:49 < maaku> just getting a drobo nas or something would be a good investment 09:54 < streety> I had not seen that before and it does look interesting. 09:55 < streety> Although the spelling error front and center on their home page was unsettling 09:56 < maaku> heh, they're fine though 09:57 < maaku> i think you don't need to fill them to capacity? so i'd get a 5-bay and two more 8tb drives, put it in raid6. $1k cost now, but your data is much better protected 09:57 < maaku> grow it one drive at a time to 16tb or 24tb as you need it 09:57 < maaku> under the hood it's just a cheap arm board with linux software raid 09:58 < streety> That's what it looks like from the site 10:02 -!- justan0theruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:05 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 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