--- Log opened Wed Sep 19 00:00:13 2018 00:00 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:10 -!- sektor [~sektor@95.87.234.241] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:13 -!- ^MillerBoss22 [~^MillerBo@185.211.165.142] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:18 -!- ^MillerBoss22 [~^MillerBo@185.211.165.142] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:38 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:50 -!- markasoftware18 [~markasoft@177.184.190.189] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:55 -!- markasoftware18 [~markasoft@177.184.190.189] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:55 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 01:24 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@unaffiliated/gurkenglas] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:33 -!- sachy [~sachy@78.108.102.220] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:15 -!- sachy1 [~sachy@78.108.102.220] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:15 -!- sachy [~sachy@78.108.102.220] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:39 -!- MonsterAbyss1 [~MonsterAb@190-204-93-210.dyn.dsl.cantv.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:42 -!- MonsterAbyss1 [~MonsterAb@190-204-93-210.dyn.dsl.cantv.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:04 -!- nicedice [~nicedice@unaffiliated/nicedice] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:50 -!- nukedclx7 [~nukedclx@121.149.252.115] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:53 -!- nukedclx7 [~nukedclx@121.149.252.115] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:03 < nsh> -- 07:03 < nsh> Luckily, they had help: a literature-exploration tool powered by artificial intelligence (AI), called Iris.ai. Using a 300-to-500-word description of a researcher’s problem, or the URL of an existing paper, the Berlin-based service returns a map of thousands of matching documents, visually grouped by topic. The results, Berger says, provide “a quick and nevertheless precise overview of what should be relevant to a certain research question”. 07:03 < nsh> -- https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-018-06617-5 07:03 < nsh> .title 07:03 < yoleaux> How AI technology can tame the scientific literature 07:04 < nsh> "Colavizza says that tools such as Iris.ai — free for basic queries, but costing upwards of €20,000 (US$23,000) a year for premium access, which allows more-nuanced searches — can accelerate researchers’ entry into new fields. “It facilitates initial exploration of the literature in a domain in which I’m marginally familiar,” he says." 07:04 < nsh> scihub all the dbs 07:07 < nsh> goddamn arbitrary password constraints 07:09 -!- nicedice [~nicedice@unaffiliated/nicedice] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:34 -!- nicedice [~nicedice@unaffiliated/nicedice] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:34 -!- nicedice [~nicedice@unaffiliated/nicedice] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:46 < 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has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:31 < fltrz> ugh, https://encyclopedia2.thefreedictionary.com/fluorometers "The following article is from The Great Soviet Encyclopedia (1979). It might be outdated or ideologically biased." Ugh it seems phase fluorometer is explained on thefreedictionary better than on wikipedia (where it's not even mentioned) 20:37 -!- mrdata [~mrdata@unaffiliated/mrdata] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:07 < maaku> nmz787: do you know what ions are being deposited in that atom by atom fabrication? 21:07 < maaku> and what the error rates are? 21:08 -!- nmz787 [~nmz787@216.151.3.186] has quit [Changing host] 21:08 -!- nmz787 [~nmz787@unaffiliated/nmz787] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:08 < nmz787> fenn: https://youtu.be/sFW-yxe13lo?t=70 21:08 < kanzure> .title 21:08 < yoleaux> Tranquilizer to the Jugular - Old School (8/9) Movie CLIP (2003) HD - YouTube 21:08 < nmz787> fenn: "you're crazy man" re: fluoremeter article stupidity 21:09 < nmz787> maaku: was it a paper I posted, or that workshop invite? 21:09 < nmz787> maaku: in general, no I don't know... I seem to recall seeing something about using a beam to move a crystal translocation around silicon recently 21:09 -!- hehelleshin [~talinck@cpe-174-97-113-184.cinci.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:13 < nmz787> maaku: http://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1361-6528/aabb79 21:13 < nmz787> .title 21:13 < yoleaux> Direct atomic fabrication and dopant positioning in Si using electron beams with active real-time image-based feedback - IOPscience 21:13 -!- TC [~talinck@cpe-174-97-113-184.cinci.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:17 < fltrz> does that mean that future miniaturized Si devices will degrade faster at higher temperatures due to dopant diffusion? --- Log closed Wed Sep 19 21:31:05 2018 --- Log opened Wed Sep 19 21:31:05 2018 21:32 < kanzure> .botsnack 21:32 < yoleaux> :D 21:32 < gnusha> :D 21:41 < nmz787> fltrz: when you have less atoms, they will diffuse around in less time, yes 21:42 < nmz787> fltrz: this is true even today versus CPUs and ICs made 10 and 20 years ago. The older ones will last longer in use. 21:42 < fltrz> right 21:42 < nmz787> fltrz: maybe not in FLOPS, but in overall number of per-transistor actuations 21:43 < fltrz> how probable is a transition to something more exotic like multiple voltage levels instead of high and low? 21:44 < fltrz> i.e. still striving for deterministic behavior with countable states 21:52 < kanzure> i am now irc logging #c-lightning #lightning-dev and #secp256k1 http://gnusha.org/secp256k1/ http://gnusha.org/c-lightning/ http://gnusha.org/lightning-dev/ 22:30 -!- yashgaroth [~yashgarot@cpe-66-27-127-185.san.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:39 -!- sektor [~sektor@95.87.234.241] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:42 < kanzure> sektor: be greeted 22:43 * kanzure looks at https://tlsnotary.org/ again 22:47 < fltrz> kanzure, could one prove banking transactions with tlsnotary? 22:48 < fltrz> I've been thinking of that ever since I read the satoshi whitepaper, before tlsnotary 22:49 < kanzure> there's also this thing, 22:49 < kanzure> .title https://github.com/bjornedstrom/timmy 22:49 < yoleaux> GitHub - bjornedstrom/timmy: Use some TLS servers for trusted timestamping 22:49 < kanzure> and this thing, 22:49 < kanzure> https://tls-n.org/ 22:49 < kanzure> heh invalid cert. that's ironic. 22:49 < kanzure> well ok, https://cyber.stanford.edu/sites/default/files/bpase18_tls-n.pdf 22:49 < kanzure> https://tlsnotary.org/TLSNotary.pdf 22:49 < kanzure> for timestamping i presently prefer opentimestamps of course 22:50 < fltrz> I'm more interested if tlsnotary or some other can be used to prove a web banking page showed a processed transaction, signed by the banks key 22:51 < fltrz> then decentralized exchanges (with reputation) might work 22:51 < fltrz> reputation since the bank can reverse transactions 22:53 < fltrz> I also wrote an email to my bank many years ago, asking if they could please change their web banking platform so users can download signatures proving transactions to third parties 22:53 < kanzure> "Sign-to-contract: how to achieve trustless digital timestamping with zero marginal cost" https://www.politesi.polimi.it/bitstream/10589/140124/1/2018_04_Comandini.pdf 22:53 < kanzure> internet life would be much improved if basic web APIs signed their data and stuff with known keys, you'd already be able to do price oracles and other stuff already 22:54 < fltrz> to me the timestamping is less interesting than the signature of an account or payment state 22:54 < kanzure> introducing the tls stack sort of annoys the problem 22:54 < kanzure> mint.com and others just ask for your username/password and go scrape the data from your bank's html rendering 22:55 < kanzure> if you want reasonably modern banking software then look at opentransactions 22:55 < kanzure> (note opentransactions != opentimestamps) 22:55 < fltrz> so if I want to test the tlsnotary stuff, I just need to set up a simple web page with tls, then see if tlsnotary can be used to generate/verify the page was signed by the tls operator? 22:56 < kanzure> i believe there's a tlsnotary browser extension 22:56 < fltrz> oh but asking User/pass is centralized 22:57 < kanzure> andytoshi: hey comandini's sign-to-contract writeup is nice. 23:00 < sektor> kanzure: Thank you! ^^ I am off to work tho 23:30 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uzagiugrepahrygi] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 23:46 < fltrz> kanzure, the bank responded something like: "ah yes! very interesting idea! perhaps in the next version" and some versions later they still didn't implement it (I also argued they were legally required by the european privacy regulations) 23:52 -!- dopey27 [~dopey@14.54.246.65] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:52 -!- dopey27 [~dopey@14.54.246.65] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:59 -!- nicedice [~nicedice@unaffiliated/nicedice] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] --- Log closed Thu Sep 20 00:00:14 2018