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05:43 < fenn> is this correct? "Intellectual property concerns hobble the adoption of CRISPR/Cas9. CRISPR/Cpf1 is not similarly conflicted."
05:44 < fenn> "Cpf1 is patented, it's just that there's no dispute over who owns it."
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07:01 < fenn> zxq9> Drone flyover of the 54m antenna array being built for the GREAT (GRound station for deep space Exploration And Telecommunication, AKA 深宇宙探査用地上局) which is being built currently: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DA_-87zvrQI
07:01 < fenn> don't ask me to translate all that kanji
07:02 < fenn> there's just something pleasing about deep space communications infrastructure
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08:06 < kanzure> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CRISPR#Patents_and_commercialization
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08:22 < kanzure> broad institute vs berkeley was all over the science news for quite a while
08:23 < fenn> the context made it sound like CRISPR/Cpf1 was not patented
08:23 < fenn> which turned out to be false, probably, although i haven't actually checked
08:25 < fenn> broad and berkeley are being stupid and should just make an agreement so they can start licensing to skittish businesses
08:26 < fenn> also fuck patents
08:26 < fenn> and fuck university patents
08:30 < kanzure> crispr-cas9 is licensed tho
08:30 < kanzure> look at all those synthego the-odin kits etc
08:31 < fenn> the-odin doesn't care about legal uncertainty
08:31 < fenn> and synthego is too busy burning that sweet sweet VC cash to notice there might be long-term consequences
08:32 < kanzure> i'm really not sure how synthego has raised >100m solely on selling crsipr kits
08:32 < fenn> but monsanto for example has stayed away from CRISPR because of patent uncertainty
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10:18 < kanzure> is that good or bad
10:36 < fenn> i'm no fan of monsanto, but they are one of the larger users of genetic engineering
10:37 < fenn> there are many other companies out there with the same reservations
10:38 < fenn> humanity is missing out on an opportunity while broad and berkeley squabble over a pittance
10:42 < kanzure> "Entanglement between living bacteria and quantized light witnessed by Rabi splitting" http://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/2399-6528/aae224/meta
11:07 < nmz787> https://www.ebay.com/itm/PEDOT-PSS-Ink-Fully-Formulated-Organic-Conductive-Ink-30g/273068828079?hash=item3f942ba5af:m:mFpyKHEYKICDPrEsYbXwcKQ:rk:1:pf:1&frcectupt=true
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13:43 < kanzure> .title https://twitter.com/PlanetaryRsrcs/status/1057626101776834560
13:43 < yoleaux> Planetary Resources auf Twitter: ".@ConsenSys acquires Planetary Resources https://t.co/kGQMIzpEgs"
13:43 < kanzure> (to be clear, that's the ethereum scammer company)
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14:00 < fenn> "would not be surprised to see some crypto-whales fund asteroid mining (and tank precious metals)"
14:01 < fenn> too bad they sold out completely
14:06 < kanzure> http://mind-melt.com/
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14:11 < superkuh> https://www.biorxiv.org/content/early/2018/10/30/457002 - "Sub-millimeter fMRI reveals multiple topographical digit representations that form action maps in human motor cortex" - this one is a delight if only for the consistently color coded diagrams.
14:13 < kanzure> "... invasive electrical stimulation studies ... We find that individual digits have cortical representations up to 3 mm apart from each other arranged in a column-like fashion. These representations are differentially engaged depending on whether the digits' muscles are used for different motor actions such as flexion movements like grasping a ball or retraction movements like releasing a ...
14:13 < kanzure> ...ball."
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20:04 < kanzure> hmph
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