--- Log opened Sat Dec 01 00:00:39 2018 00:37 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:38 -!- aeiousom1thing [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:43 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:05 -!- sektor [~sektor@95.87.234.241] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:42 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:44 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:50 -!- spaceangel [~spaceange@ip-86-49-16-65.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:58 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:05 -!- spaceangel [~spaceange@ip-86-49-16-65.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:07 -!- spaceangel [~spaceange@ip-86-49-16-65.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:28 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:02 -!- cluelessperson [~cluelessp@unaffiliated/cluelessperson] has quit [Quit: Laters] 03:03 -!- cluelessperson [~cluelessp@unaffiliated/cluelessperson] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:48 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@unaffiliated/gurkenglas] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:57 < kanzure> "Organic synthesis in a modular robotic system driven by a chemical programming language" http://science.sciencemag.org/content/early/2018/11/28/science.aav2211 https://twitter.com/leecronin/status/1068221883152285698 06:09 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:12 -!- sachy [~sachy@91.146.121.5] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:12 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:33 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@unaffiliated/gurkenglas] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 07:37 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:39 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:43 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:42 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@unaffiliated/gurkenglas] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:51 -!- uniera [uniera@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/uniera] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:58 -!- uniera [uniera@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/uniera] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:58 -!- uniera [uniera@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/uniera] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:09 -!- l_wl [~l_wl@pool-173-66-183-216.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:52 < kanzure> .wik amniocentesis 10:52 < yoleaux> "Amniocentesis (also referred to as amniotic fluid test) is a medical procedure used in prenatal diagnosis of chromosomal abnormalities and fetal infections, and also for sex determination, in which a small amount of amniotic fluid, which contains fetal tissues, is sampled from the amniotic sac surrounding a developing fetus, and then the …" — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amniocentesis 10:53 < kanzure> .wik cell-free fetal DNA 10:53 < yoleaux> "Cell-free fetal DNA (cffDNA) is fetal DNA which circulates freely in the maternal blood. Maternal blood is sampled by venipuncture. Analysis of cffDNA is a method of non-invasive prenatal diagnosis frequently ordered for pregnant women of advanced maternal age. Two hours after delivery, cffDNA is no longer detectable in maternal blood." — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cell-free_fetal_DNA 10:55 < kanzure> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Designer_baby_(2nd_nomination) 11:02 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/kanzure/status/1068942674420477953 11:02 < yoleaux> Wikipedia was considering deletion of its "Designer babies" article http://web.archive.org/web/20181201185559/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Designer_baby_(2nd_nomination) very untimely, just days before the recent announcement. (@kanzure) 11:49 -!- superkuh [~superkuh@unaffiliated/superkuh] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:59 < fenn> wikipedia's deletion process is totally screwed up 12:10 < fenn> the deletionist "jytdog" was "indefinitely topic-banned from all pages relating to genetically modified organisms and agricultural chemicals, broadly interpreted"; and was "admonished for their poor civility in relation to the locus of this case" 12:11 < fenn> in 2015 12:22 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:24 < fenn> "Genomic Prediction in NJ began offering selection on many complex traits months ago and has customers and is just one of (at least) 3 such companies, and of course people have been doing PGD for optional non-medical purposes (even excluding generic embryo quality) like sex, eye/hair color, or most infamously, deafness, for many years now ... If none of that counts as 'designer babies', then I 12:24 < fenn> have no idea what would." 12:28 < fenn> it's not quite the same if your choices are: brown hair, or brown hair 12:46 -!- aeiousom1thing [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:47 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:49 -!- aeiousom1thing [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Client Quit] 13:38 -!- Douhet [~Douhet@unaffiliated/douhet] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:52 -!- lee_ [~lee@2601:197:600:42a7:c042:1544:7d29:9c6b] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:05 -!- lee_ [~lee@2601:197:600:42a7:c042:1544:7d29:9c6b] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:39 < kanzure> "Cause of cambrian explosion: Terrestrial or cosmic?" https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0079610718300798 17:04 -!- uniera [uniera@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/uniera] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 17:08 -!- sektor [~sektor@95.87.234.241] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:38 < kanzure> .title https://www.nap.edu/catalog/24623/human-genome-editing-science-ethics-and-governance 17:38 < yoleaux> Human Genome Editing: Science, Ethics, and Governance | The National Academies Press 17:42 < kanzure> no thanks https://www.lawfareblog.com/what-if-responsible-encryption-back-doors-were-possible 17:46 < kanzure> "Identity inference of genomic data using long-range familial searches" http://science.sciencemag.org/content/early/2018/10/10/science.aau4832 18:29 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@unaffiliated/gurkenglas] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:18 -!- hehelleshin [~talinck@cpe-174-97-113-184.cinci.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:21 -!- TC [~talinck@cpe-174-97-113-184.cinci.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:30 -!- l_wl [~l_wl@pool-173-66-183-216.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [] 22:42 -!- Douhet [~Douhet@unaffiliated/douhet] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:46 -!- custom_ [~custom_@70-36-235-234.dsl.static.fusionbroadband.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 22:54 -!- custom_ [~custom_@70-36-235-234.dsl.static.fusionbroadband.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:49 -!- Urchin [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:53 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap --- Log closed Sun Dec 02 00:00:40 2018