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10:19 < kanzure> http://supportprecisionagriculture.org/view-signatures_rjr.html
17:57 < fenn> Precision Agriculture (GMOs)
17:57 < fenn> what
17:59 < justanotheruser> what
18:03 < fenn> could they not get supportgmos.org? the message is much clearer
18:03 < fenn> i thought "precision agriculture" was e.g. putting pesticide right on the weed, instead of carpet bombing the entire field
18:07 < fenn> "There are virtually no plants in our food chain that have not been heavily modified genetically both by traditional breeding methods and the natural processes of gene exchange found everywhere in nature. Traditional breeding methods have all been designed to introduce ever greater genetic variation into plant and animal varieties in the hope of finding useful traits. Such methods are not limited
18:07 < fenn> to traditional crosses of distantly related plants, but also include chemical and radiation-induced mutagenesis. Such methods are considered perfectly acceptable by organic farmers. In these methods literally thousands of genes are changed and in general we have no idea of how they have been changed. In contrast the newer methods involving the transfer of individual genes are precise."
18:08 < fenn> but then you go down the rabbit hole of whether such and such mutation could have been generated naturally through mutagenesis or breeding, and you have a weaker statement of support for GMO in general
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18:30 < nmz787> http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/graphenepores/
18:30 < nmz787> .title
18:30 < yoleaux> Graphene nanopores
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19:01 < fenn> if i steal an equal exchange organic fair trade worker owned cooperative kosher chocolate bar, does that make me more or less ethical?
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21:04 < nmz787> I think the answer might be less
23:08 < nmz787> https://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/ja311603r
23:08 < nmz787> .title
23:08 < yoleaux> nmz787: Sorry, that doesn't appear to be an HTML page.
23:08 < nmz787> Electronic Measurements of Single-Molecule Processing by DNA Polymerase I (Klenow Fragment)
23:09 < nmz787> "Bioconjugating single molecules of the Klenow fragment of DNA polymerase I into electronic nanocircuits allowed electrical recordings of enzymatic function and dynamic variability with the resolution of individual nucleotide incorporation events."
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