--- Log opened Wed Jan 16 00:00:22 2019 00:19 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@unaffiliated/gurkenglas] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:32 -!- spaceangel [~spaceange@ip-86-49-16-65.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:48 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:38 < archels> nmz787: it's rather disappointing that this cotton seed story does not include a photograph 01:40 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@unaffiliated/gurkenglas] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:40 < jrayhawk> Xorg has a lot of similar ancient malicious server vulnerabilities they've been cleaning up in recent years. 01:44 < archels> but Xorg will always be junk because X is just one huge shared memory space? 01:55 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:02 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:53 < jrayhawk> the interpretions i can come up with for that statement are either true and uninteresting, or interesting and untrue 02:54 < jrayhawk> maybe it would be helpful if you would expand on it 03:10 -!- aeiousom1thing [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:12 -!- jdluhos [~Jiri@19-69-239-109.cust.centrio.cz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:13 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 04:44 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@unaffiliated/gurkenglas] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:07 -!- aeiousom1thing [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:07 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:30 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@unaffiliated/gurkenglas] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:31 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@unaffiliated/gurkenglas] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:40 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@unaffiliated/gurkenglas] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 05:48 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:06 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:19 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 06:40 -!- LooCfur [~hello@loocfur.powered.by.lunarbnc.net] has quit [Quit: Free ZNC ~ Powered by LunarBNC: https://LunarBNC.net] 06:40 -!- LooCfur_ [~hello@loocfur.powered.by.lunarbnc.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:45 -!- HEx1 [~HEx@hexwab.plus.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:50 -!- ebowden_ [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 06:51 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:06 < archels> jrayhawk: see e.g. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7607082 07:20 < kanzure> future circular collider plans https://fcc-cdr.web.cern.ch/ 07:32 < kanzure> http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2019/01/groundbreaking-deal-makes-large-number-german-studies-free-public 07:33 < kanzure> "Under the 3-year contract, scientists at more than 700 academic institutions will be able to access all of Wiley’s academic journals back to 1997 and to publish open access in all of Wiley’s journals. The annual fee will be based on the number of papers they publish in Wiley journals—about 10,000 in previous years, says one of the negotiators, physicist Gerard Meijer of the Fritz Haber ... 07:33 < kanzure> ...Institute, a Max Planck Society institute here." 07:34 -!- Urchin [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:34 < kanzure> https://physicsworld.com/a/europe-unveils-successor-to-the-large-hadron-collider/ 07:37 < nsh> was looking at FCC yest a bit 07:37 < nsh> having more organically evolving systems for the filtering of detector data seems important 07:38 < nsh> considering how much is just discarded 07:38 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/cynicalsecurity/status/1084067754762780672 07:38 < yoleaux> Stanford uploads 111 lectures by Donald Knuth. There go your next five years of spare time… https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL94E35692EB9D36F3 (@cynicalsecurity) 07:38 < nsh> and how models should really be evolving in supercomputers 07:38 < nsh> for what things might be important to retain vs discard 07:38 < nsh> nice 07:55 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:27 -!- yashgaroth [~yashgarot@cpe-66-27-127-185.san.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:34 -!- Urchin [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 09:20 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:28 < jrayhawk> archels: Xorg implements both a display server and a network protocol. Claiming that it is all "junk" because the network protocol implements more than you want is not a proportionate means of evaluation; there are many ways of utilizing the display server with another, more restrictive communication protocol (e.g. X11 SECURITY extension built into Xorg, SELinux, a bajillion forms of nested X, 10:28 < jrayhawk> xpra, VNC, RDP, etc.). 10:29 < jrayhawk> Most of which are, in fact, discussed in the linked article. 10:36 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@unaffiliated/gurkenglas] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:38 -!- Urchin [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:27 < nmz787> archels: other news reports of that story include pics, but it wasn't too interesting 11:39 -!- Urchin [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:06 < archels> jrayhawk: the message I'm getting as a layperson, is that we should all (get ready to) move to Wayland 12:09 < archels> nmz787: very meh. need to watch some live ISS feed to compensate for the letdown 12:21 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@unaffiliated/gurkenglas] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:31 -!- N-time [~Mark@46.37.71.54] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:44 < nmz787> archels: https://futurism.com/the-byte/moon-plant-dead 12:46 < jrayhawk> I agree that it would be nice if we could move to a simpler display model. Sadly, reality is complex. 13:22 -!- sachy [~sachy@91.146.121.5] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 13:38 -!- N-time [~Mark@46.37.71.54] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:15 -!- HEx1 [~HEx@hexwab.plus.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:21 -!- spaceangel [~spaceange@ip-86-49-16-65.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:28 < superkuh> https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/nih-researchers-rescue-photoreceptors-prevent-blindness-animal-models-retinal-degeneration 16:59 -!- adlai [~adlai@unaffiliated/adlai] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:59 -!- red-001 [red@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-skroqjybcabgxhge] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:59 -!- adlai [~adlai@unaffiliated/adlai] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:06 -!- red-001 [red@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-tskfymnhjojairtw] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:10 -!- saurik_ [saurik@carrier.saurik.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:10 -!- saurik [saurik@carrier.saurik.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:18 -!- srk [sorki@fedora/sorki] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 17:34 -!- srk [sorki@fedora/sorki] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:35 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:46 < nsh> neat 17:49 -!- mrdata [~mrdata@unaffiliated/mrdata] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:51 < fenn> .title https://www.troyhunt.com/the-773-million-record-collection-1-data-reach/ 17:51 < yoleaux> Troy Hunt: The 773 Million Record "Collection #1" Data Breach 17:57 < kanzure> hack the planet 17:58 -!- lewlking [~lewlking@pool-173-66-183-216.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:02 < nsh> i wonder how often troy gets MIBs coming round to ask for his hashes 18:03 < nsh> 21mil hash is not a bad stash 18:05 -!- lewlking [~lewlking@pool-173-66-183-216.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 18:29 < fenn> probably never. he's using AWS to run operations on the data, so they already have it 18:29 < fenn> or whatever their non-web databse service is called 18:30 -!- Jay__Dugger [~jwdugger@47.185.249.138] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:39 -!- balrog_ [~balrog@unaffiliated/balrog] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:41 -!- Pompolic_ [~A@unaffiliated/pompolic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:42 -!- gwollon [~gwillen@unaffiliated/gwillen] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:45 -!- balrog_ [~balrog@unaffiliated/balrog] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:46 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: pompolic, gwillen, balrog 18:51 -!- Jay_Dugger [~jwdugger@47.185.249.138] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:51 -!- Jay__Dugger [~jwdugger@47.185.249.138] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:51 -!- mrdata [~mrdata@unaffiliated/mrdata] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:57 -!- balrog [~balrog@unaffiliated/balrog] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:13 -!- gwollon is now known as gwillen 19:21 -!- jdluhos [~Jiri@19-69-239-109.cust.centrio.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:00 * nsh nods 20:59 < ebowden> W E A R E D E F E A T E D 20:59 < ebowden> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/392485988024320001/535158175524192266/FB_IMG_1540777978365.jpg 21:01 < ebowden> Presumably the ecofascist is using an effectively limitless stockpile of ammunition and hard-wearing firearms, and not doing any EEEVIIIL steel smelting or ammonia and nitric acid production. 21:07 < fenn> borg4lyfe 21:09 -!- Proteus [~Proteus@unaffiliated/proteus] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:16 -!- helleshin [~talinck@cpe-174-97-113-184.cinci.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:19 -!- TC [~talinck@cpe-174-97-113-184.cinci.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:26 -!- yashgaroth [~yashgarot@cpe-66-27-127-185.san.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:48 < mrdata||> ebowden, that page could not be loaded 22:49 < mrdata||> ok worked on retry 23:05 -!- juri_ [~juri@205.166.94.162] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:07 -!- juri_ [~juri@205.166.94.162] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:18 < nmz787> ebowden: what if someone embodies both of those personality stereotypes??? hybrid vigor? 23:42 < archels> ebowden: lol, link to thread? --- Log closed Thu Jan 17 00:00:23 2019