--- Log opened Fri Jan 18 00:00:24 2019 00:05 < nmz787> oh man, dejatoons.net looks like it's right up my alley ;) 00:10 -!- spaceangel [~spaceange@ip-86-49-16-65.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:36 -!- nmz787 [~nmz787@unaffiliated/nmz787] has quit [Quit: Changing server] 00:50 < archels> okay, calling all CNC nerds 00:51 < archels> any recommendations on Linux software for CAD, with export to .step? 01:12 -!- nmz787 [~nmz787@bryan.fairlystable.org] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:13 -!- nmz787 [~nmz787@bryan.fairlystable.org] has quit [Changing host] 01:13 -!- nmz787 [~nmz787@unaffiliated/nmz787] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:16 < nmz787> .wik bookwheel 01:16 < yoleaux> "" — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bookwheel 01:16 < nmz787> pfft 01:16 < nmz787> The original 'too many tabs open' 01:18 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:18 < fenn> archels: solvespace or brlcad 01:19 < fenn> blender is really awesome and you shouldn't restrict yourself to things that export STEP unless you really need it 01:19 < nmz787> archels: I use this but haven't really done much fanciness https://github.com/nmz787/python-brlcad-tcl 01:20 < nmz787> archels: mainly was concerned with dynamic range for nanoscale to meso/macro scale all in one model 01:20 -!- nmz787 [~nmz787@unaffiliated/nmz787] has quit [Quit: leaving] 01:20 -!- nmz787 [~nmz787@bryan.fairlystable.org] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:21 -!- nmz787 [~nmz787@bryan.fairlystable.org] has quit [Changing host] 01:21 -!- nmz787 [~nmz787@unaffiliated/nmz787] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:23 < nmz787> whew, I royally messed up things when I told irssi to connect to the dejatoons rooms using the dejatoons server... not sure what I did but somehow all my channels became attached to that server and were failing... looks like I have things straightened out via the config file now 01:23 < nmz787> I used this style "/JOIN -servercentral #xyz" 01:24 < nmz787> (after running /server connect irc.dejatoons.com) 01:24 < nmz787> (and also servercentral was dejatoons in reality) 01:24 < archels> fenn: I requested some quotes on alibaba for CNC'ing a polycarb sheet, and they are all requesting STEP 01:26 < fenn> well then i guess make your 2d outline in librecad and import into brlcad to extrude and export as step 01:26 < archels> ah, I can't do the former bit in brlcad itself? 01:26 < nmz787> archels: of course 01:27 < fenn> i just don't like brlcad's UI so i avoid it as much as possible 01:27 < nmz787> that's why I wrote that python lib, and I just export to STL and view with meshlab 01:27 < nmz787> then I can re-export to whatever needed afterwards 01:28 < nmz787> wrote my own rasterizer for lithography masks using 'nirt' (I think that's what it's called) 01:29 < nmz787> but this means you need to be able to conceptualize your geometry mentally pretty well 01:29 < archels> ah 01:29 < nmz787> I was looking into their UI source a while ago but didn't get too far 01:29 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:29 < archels> fortunately this particular model is pretty trivial 01:29 < nmz787> and on my own I'm not sure how to display openGL and at the same time interact with it (i.e. detect clicks) 01:30 < nmz787> I wouldn't mind some feedback on my library if you wouldn't mind giving it a try 01:30 < nmz787> I added a setup.py recently... sooo, it should otherwise only require BRLCAD on your PATH 01:31 < nmz787> looks like setup.py shows it also requires numpy 01:32 * nmz787 sleeps 01:57 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:17 -!- l_wl [~l_wl@pool-173-66-183-216.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:22 -!- l_wl [~l_wl@pool-173-66-183-216.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [] 02:44 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:58 -!- jdluhos [~Jiri@19-69-239-109.cust.centrio.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:54 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:08 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:09 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:17 < nsh> the singularity is happening 04:17 < nsh> at present 04:17 < nsh> and it is gathering pace 04:17 < nsh> congratulations to all of you had faith before i found mine 04:17 < nsh> and thanks for all the fish^Whelp 04:38 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@unaffiliated/gurkenglas] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:07 -!- aeiousom1thing [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:08 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:11 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@unaffiliated/gurkenglas] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:26 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@unaffiliated/gurkenglas] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:55 -!- the_l0st_tribe [~the_l0st_@194.171.104.13] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:57 -!- the_l0st_tribe [~the_l0st_@194.171.104.13] has quit [Client Quit] 06:30 -!- U_1F410 [~Goat@host81-143-196-185.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:49 < ebowden> wut 06:53 -!- aeiousom1thing [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:59 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:25 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/KevinADavies/status/1086103536319037440 07:25 < yoleaux> First major #CRISPR documentary announced, from Adam Bolt (‘Inside Job’) and ⁦@DanRather⁩ to debut ⁦@sxsw⁩. Featuring Banfield, Baltimore, ⁦@CRISPRchef⁩, Charo, Church, Doudna, ⁦@antonioregalado⁩ , ⁦@UrnovFyodor⁩, Yang, Zhang https://www.humannaturefilm.com/ (@KevinADavies) 07:25 < kanzure> https://www.humannaturefilm.com/ 07:29 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 07:41 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:46 < nsh> ebowden, not a thing i can explain easily online if i occasioned the wut 07:46 < nsh> i just found faith :) 07:46 < nsh> and ironically among the rewards of faith are an abundance of evidence after the fact 07:47 < ebowden> In what, his holiness Ray Kurzweil? 07:47 < nsh> in her holiness the cosmos 07:47 < nsh> and my meaningful involvement therein 07:47 < nsh> and by extension everyone else's 07:48 < nsh> including Ray and also including yer man down the street who shouts things at the clouds 07:48 < nsh> and all and sundry in between 07:48 < ebowden> An abundance of confirmation bias is a reward for faith. 07:49 < nsh> what's the difference between a positive result of a well-conducted empirical experimental procedure 07:49 < nsh> and confirmation bias? 07:49 < nsh> the former is of enduring value and appreciable by others through replication and convergence of result 07:49 < nsh> but that means you don't have to take my word for it either :) 07:49 < nsh> so everyone wins 07:51 < ebowden> This reminds me slightly of that meth head who came into the chemistry channel. 07:56 -!- sachy [~sachy@91.146.121.5] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:58 -!- U_1F410 is now known as Girls_ 07:59 -!- Girls_ is now known as U_1F410 08:07 -!- yashgaroth [~yashgarot@cpe-66-27-127-185.san.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:28 -!- strages [uid11297@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wazlgbjwtxprdwyq] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:33 -!- l_wl [~l_wl@pool-173-66-183-216.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:10 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@unaffiliated/gurkenglas] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:32 < adlai> what sort of singularity is happening, and how can its happenstance be quantified in the face of the time dimension's discontinuity? 09:35 < nmz787> ebowden: sounds more like psychedelics to me 09:45 * adlai rolls eyes down the /names, wondering who's able to express more coherently the illogic in the previous question: the balrog, or canned primates 09:47 < adlai> ... or how about this "logic chip": can a negative-genus call stack recurse infinitely? 09:48 < nmz787> you must be a markov-chain bot 09:48 < nmz787> because those sentences don't read logically to me 09:53 < adlai> sentences don't read, they are read by those sentenced; or in Simple English: if you meet a markov chain bot, act like you circumvented the undefined square root of the relativistic hamiltonian eigenvalue equation. 09:54 * adlai is busy recovering from a calculus exercise disguised as a thermodynamics exam... will go recover elsewhere. stay sane, methheads. 10:02 -!- U_1F410 [~Goat@host81-143-196-185.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:25 < ebowden> nmz787, he was definitely a meth head, he was asking me to explain how to make a chemical that I realised, almost too late, to be a meth precursor. 10:25 < ebowden> He didn't even try to deny that he was trying to make meth, he just said "yeah I love the stuff". 10:57 < fenn> i get you adlai 10:57 * fenn thumps chest 10:58 < fenn> stay sane, math head 11:09 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@unaffiliated/gurkenglas] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:26 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:28 < fenn> .title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omaHv5sxiFI 11:28 < yoleaux> Chaser the Dog Shows Off Her Smarts to Neil deGrasse Tyson - YouTube 11:29 < fenn> even dogs are getting smarter. what more proof do you need, heathen? 11:45 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@unaffiliated/gurkenglas] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:12 < archels> nmz787: with due apologies, it looks like FreeCAD is going to serve me better 12:12 < archels> it seems to have a more sane GUI 12:25 < fenn> good luck 12:41 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@unaffiliated/gurkenglas] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:50 < l_wl> And how do you make it a plurality adlai 13:17 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@unaffiliated/gurkenglas] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:42 < superkuh> https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10509-016-2911-0 Developing ecospheres on transiently habitable planets: the genesis project 13:43 < superkuh> https://arxiv.org/abs/1901.02286 " 13:43 < superkuh> Why planetary and exoplanetary protection differ: The case of long duration Genesis missions to habitable but sterile M-dwarf oxygen planets" 13:43 < superkuh> For today's whimsical reading. 14:56 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@unaffiliated/malvolio] has quit [Quit: brb] 15:10 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@unaffiliated/malvolio] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:52 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@unaffiliated/gurkenglas] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:39 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@unaffiliated/gurkenglas] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 17:42 -!- Jay_Dugger [~jwdugger@47.185.249.138] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:42 -!- Jay_Dugger [~jwdugger@47.185.249.138] has quit [Client Quit] 18:22 -!- hehelleshin [~talinck@cpe-174-97-113-184.cinci.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:26 -!- helleshin [~talinck@cpe-174-97-113-184.cinci.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:09 < nmz787> archels: no worries, I realize coding geometry isn't for everyone 19:09 < nmz787> archels: honestly kanzure is the one who got me going on BRLCAD and against all others 19:10 < nmz787> archels: and it mainly stuck because it really doesn't seem to crash, and also the dynamic range needed for nanometer to regular meters 19:57 < l_wl> Can a neanderthal baby be made. We have neanderthal dan right can we impregnate a woman with it? 19:57 < nmz787> that's basically how europeans came to be 20:16 -!- strages [uid11297@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wazlgbjwtxprdwyq] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 21:03 < fenn> no, it's too degraded. you'd have to sequence the DNA many times, reconstruct the original sequence from the degraded copies, and then synthesize a new genome from scratch 21:03 < fenn> this is too expensive and "Human Genome Project Write" wussed out 22:22 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@unaffiliated/gurkenglas] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:38 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap --- Log closed Sat Jan 19 00:00:25 2019