--- Log opened Sat Jan 26 00:00:31 2019 00:08 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:26 < nmz787> .title https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-018-06818-6 00:26 < yoleaux> Nanocardboard as a nanoscale analog of hollow sandwich plates | Nature Communications 00:27 * nmz787 mmmm, sandwiches 00:46 -!- spaceangel [~spaceange@ip-86-49-16-65.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:23 -!- hehelleshin [~talinck@cpe-174-97-113-184.cinci.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:27 -!- helleshin [~talinck@cpe-174-97-113-184.cinci.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:12 -!- ebowden_ [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:15 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:24 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@unaffiliated/gurkenglas] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:09 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@unaffiliated/gurkenglas] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 05:15 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@unaffiliated/gurkenglas] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:57 < kanzure> "According to the United Nations' Universal Declaration on the Human Genome and Human Rights, the human genome is the common "heritage of humanity"; on that basis a U.N. bioethics commission argued for a permanent "moratorium on genome editing of the human germline." But enabling governments to decide what sort of children can and cannot be born is the very definition of eugenics. After all, ... 05:58 < kanzure> ...what horrors are parents likely to inflict on their progeny by means of gene-editing? Less risk of disease, stronger bodies, and nimbler brains. While some parents will certainly make mistaken choices as gene-editing and assisted reproduction technologies advance, they are surely far more trustworthy guardians of the human gene pool than any set of well-intentioned bureaucrats." 05:58 < kanzure> from https://reason.com/blog/2019/01/25/should-we-be-worried-about-how-gene-edit 05:58 < kanzure> https://en.unesco.org/news/unesco-panel-experts-calls-ban-editing-human-dna-avoid-unethical-tampering-hereditary-traits 05:59 < kanzure> https://www.ipstudies.ch/2018/11/on-the-patents-behind-crispr-babies/ 06:00 < kanzure> https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?CC=CN&NR=107967411&KC=&FT=E&locale=en_EP# 06:00 < kanzure> that's CN107967411 06:07 -!- shpx [~shpx@unaffiliated/shpx] has quit [Quit: shpx] 06:07 -!- sachy [~sachy@91.146.121.5] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:10 < kanzure> .botsnack 06:10 < yoleaux> :D 07:14 < nsh> parents will be most trustworthy guardians of children's genetic heritage... 07:14 * nsh recalls 07:15 < nsh> that there are teenagers asking online how to get vaccinated without parental consent 07:15 < nsh> in the USA 07:15 < nsh> okay maybe if we completely obliterate the entire culture of english-speaking north america 07:16 < nsh> and all of online culture 07:16 < nsh> then perhaps there's a chance parents in general can be trusted in this manner 07:16 < nsh> but i'm dubious 07:16 < nsh> the better of nurturing habits are ancient and instictive 07:16 < nsh> the worst are conceptual and fashionable 07:17 < nsh> and the application of technology falls into the latter camp 07:17 < nsh> for instance smol chimdrems require almost constant meaningful interaction with adult or at least older humans 07:17 < nsh> but of late this has been replaced quite often by flat screeny bright noisey parental-irritation-and-responsibility-reduction-devices 07:18 < nsh> this is not a prograde step 07:18 < nsh> this is a very retrograde step 07:18 < nsh> i am unconvinced that this should instil in me great confidence for how middle class white north american english-speaking humans will make use of germline technologies 07:18 < nsh> "what if it just *couldn't* scream when we're in church or the mall?" 07:19 < nsh> ***daily cynicism duties completed*** 07:23 -!- shpx [~shpx@unaffiliated/shpx] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:23 < nsh> all in all i think dull boring social democratic governments like in nordic countries would probably make a reasonable if bureaucratic set of regulations 07:23 < nsh> which would by and large be a social good 07:23 < nsh> but i am open to be talked out this assessment :) 07:26 -!- shpx [~shpx@unaffiliated/shpx] has quit [Client Quit] 07:27 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@unaffiliated/gurkenglas] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 07:28 < kanzure> i think you can do permanent non-vaccination by doing cell expression of measles capsids or whatever 07:29 < kanzure> also, nobody has considered genetically modified aborted fetuses or selection of such 07:31 < nsh> making your cells express the things in measles that fuck you up seems less useful than having dilutes injected 07:31 < nsh> but maybe i'm missing something 07:31 < nsh> sort of seems like "if i had a hammer" attitude here a bit maybe 07:31 < nsh> not everything needs to be solved this way 07:31 < nsh> perhaps vanishingly few things 07:31 < kanzure> it's an idea for appeasing the antivaxxers 07:32 < nsh> they are unlikely to imagine gene editing to be less ungodly than vaccination 07:32 < nsh> or whatever excuse they have 07:32 < kanzure> i mean they are wrong but if they want to be right about how they are going about being wrong, then they would make permanent tolerance and therefore nullify vaccines 07:32 < nsh> likely to result in autisms 07:32 < nsh> just give them their own continent imho 07:32 < nsh> let nature run its course 07:32 < kanzure> nsh: my thesis about antivaxxers is that it's actually the repressed concerns of parents about overly investing resources into something that has no guarantees of a good outcome 07:32 < nsh> hmm 07:32 < nsh> that seems like the whole of parenting though 07:33 < kanzure> nsh: e.g. the absolute "horror" of raising a child with autism 07:33 < nsh> my parents have survived 07:33 < nsh> in fact it took a major international legal case for them even to realise 07:33 < nsh> but i'm around the more tolerable part of the autismosphere 07:33 < nsh> i suppose 07:33 < nsh> just a modest pain in the arse 07:34 < kanzure> these folks are so scared of deviance from neurotypicality that they are willing to accept death of the child as a more appealing alternative 07:34 < kanzure> i'm also fascinated by parental regret in general. it's an enormous taboo but really fascinating. 07:35 * nsh nods 07:35 -!- shpx [~shpx@unaffiliated/shpx] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:36 < nsh> .title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AM9uBjsg5Q0 07:36 < yoleaux> I have-a the buyer's remorse-a - YouTube 07:38 -!- shpx [~shpx@unaffiliated/shpx] has quit [Client Quit] 07:38 < kanzure> re: "what if it just *couldn't* scream when we're in church or the mall?" 07:38 < kanzure> i think there's a genetic basis to infant demeanor 07:38 < kanzure> some of them are really easy to handle and others aren't 07:39 < kanzure> parents are often overworked and stressed out; having a low stress kid seems like an obvious win to me. 07:44 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=38ee456a Michael Folkson: Add Laolu and Conner transcript from Noded podcast >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/transcripts/noded-podcast/2018-12-14-laolu-conner-lnd/ 07:44 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=72e25c5c Bryan Bishop: Merge pull request #25 from michaelfolkson/add-noded-laolu >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/ 07:46 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=32ac80c1 Bryan Bishop: add tweeter link >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/transcripts/noded-podcast/2018-12-14-laolu-conner-lnd/ 07:47 < nsh> stress of child is a general (but obviously hard to parse) indicator of things-to-be-attended-to 07:47 < nsh> we could try to make that information more rich 07:47 < nsh> but attenuating it seems like a Bad Idea 07:48 < nsh> there is a coevolution of the annoyance of the scream and the receptivity of the mother/father/guardian to such an annoying noise 07:48 < nsh> this is not something to unpickle before we are very sure we can fully compensate for its unpickling in all the contingencies we can imagine or observe in practice 07:49 < nsh> so maybe some nice berks have done the science on the one hundred billion baby screams and what needed to be done for each 07:49 < nsh> but it probably falls into basic categories of need 07:49 < nsh> nourishment, sleep, attention, love, medical intervention 07:49 < nsh> environmental enrichment, environmental de-enrichment 07:50 < nsh> (ie, lights off, sleepy time) 07:50 < nsh> more instrumentation would probably help 07:51 < kanzure> i think the amount of effort to invest into stopping screaming in some cases can be better spent by preventing certain problems or issues upfront 07:51 < kanzure> i'm reminded of a certain childhood psychopathy disorder of some kind; let me see if i can pull the name out of my butt. 07:51 < kanzure> no i don't seem to remember the name. 07:55 < nsh> parents generally invest a lot upfront to prevent causes-of-child-anguish 07:55 < nsh> but children are remarkably versatile at discovering things that fell through the net 07:55 < nsh> or inventing them 07:56 < kanzure> what is your interest in this area specifically? 07:56 < kanzure> what are you trying to achieve 07:56 < nsh> me? i'm just rambling 07:57 < nsh> my interest in children is largely contained to trying to minimise my involvement in fucking up the world they inherit and increasing my involvement in bettering it 08:01 < kanzure> "ZeroCT: Improving ZeroCoin with Confidential Transactions and more" https://eprint.iacr.org/2019/072.pdf 08:02 < kanzure> "Publicly verifiable proofs from blockchains" https://eprint.iacr.org/2019/066.pdf 08:06 < kanzure> "Efficient non-interactive zero-knowledge proofs in cross-domains without trusted setup" https://eprint.iacr.org/2019/063.pdf 08:08 < kanzure> "A formal treatment of hardware wallets" https://eprint.iacr.org/2019/034.pdf 08:16 < kanzure> "Minimizing trust in hardware wallets with two factor signatures" https://eprint.iacr.org/2019/006.pdf (simple threshold signature 2-of-2 scheme?) 08:17 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@unaffiliated/gurkenglas] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:18 < kanzure> switch commitments https://github.com/mimblewimble/grin/pull/2157 08:24 < kanzure> https://www.pcgamer.com/modders-are-using-ai-to-upscale-pre-rendered-ps1-backgrounds-with-phenomenal-results/ 08:25 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/Ze_PilOt/status/1079386451605884928 08:25 < yoleaux> So, this nice little tool allows to extract background from the Unity asset files & re-inject them. https://github.com/Tirlititi/Hades-Workshop. Inside the engine, a background looks like this. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DvrAPYWWkAIvBT4.png (@Ze_PilOt, in reply to tw:1078688869229449220) 08:46 < kanzure> https://www.thehastingscenter.org/scientists-disagree-ethics-governance-human-germline-genome-editing/ 08:46 < fenn> .wik colic 08:46 < yoleaux> "Colic or cholic (pronounced /ˈkɒl.ɪk/, KOL-ik, from Greek κολικός kolikos, "relative to the colon") is a form of pain that starts and stops abruptly. It occurs due to muscular contractions of a hollow tube (colon, ureter, gall bladder, etc.) in an attempt to relieve an obstruction by forcing content out." — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colic 08:47 < fenn> no, not that 08:47 < fenn> .wik baby colic 08:47 < yoleaux> "Baby colic, also known as infantile colic, is defined as episodes of crying for more than three hours a day, for more than three days a week, for three weeks in an otherwise healthy child. Often crying occurs in the evening. It typically does not result in long term problems." — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby_colic 08:49 < kanzure> well that's not what i was thinking of, but yes that's a good example 08:49 < kanzure> ".. Our results support Raichlen and Polk's contention that selection for non‐cognitive functions has direct mechanistic linkages to the evolution of brain size in hominins" https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/ajpa.23762 08:51 < kanzure> also another example is the morning sickness proneness stuff 08:52 < kanzure> machine learning review articles from arxiv https://freenode-machinelearning.github.io/Resources/ArticlesReview.html#papers 08:59 -!- yashgaroth [~yashgarot@2606:6000:c308:f700:d49a:c6f4:c7e:3e72] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:04 -!- Urchin [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:24 -!- Hooloovo0 [Hooloovoo@hooloovoo.blue] has quit [Quit: Temporarily refracted into a free-standing prism.] 12:29 -!- Hoolootwo [Hooloovoo@hooloovoo.blue] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:31 -!- Hoolootwo [Hooloovoo@hooloovoo.blue] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:33 -!- dustinm [~dustinm@68.ip-149-56-14.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:34 -!- Hoolootwo [Hooloovoo@hooloovoo.blue] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:58 -!- Urchin [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:01 < nmz787> fenn: I've only had one kid, and really only experience with this one, but all the random crying seemed to be quelled by holding over the sink in an eastern-style toilet position until he relieved himself... in the early days when he lacked the muscular control and know-how... dancing with pelvic gyrations seemed to help too 13:02 < nmz787> maybe having a baby toilet with ultrasound would be a good device 13:02 < nmz787> holding the kid for 5-15 minutes over the sink got old real fast (and strenuous) 13:03 < nmz787> luckily since about 6 months he can sit on a potty mostly balancing himself 13:03 < nmz787> though we could have helped him balance much much earlier, but no toilets with small enough seats are commercially available 13:08 < nmz787> I imagined I could have taken a milling router to a baby carseat, cutting a hole in the bottom... but it would have been really big for bathroom usage 13:08 < nmz787> anyway, people in general seem to do a poor job at baby signalling 13:08 < nmz787> so colic could just be a catch-all 13:08 < nmz787> (for being out of touch) 13:09 < nmz787> which makes sense in the sense that most people themselves are out of touch with their bodies and own signals 13:14 -!- dustinm [~dustinm@68.ip-149-56-14.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:44 -!- strages [uid11297@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-moqmmmndqdvwqfim] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 15:03 -!- Urchin [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:08 -!- spaceangel [~spaceange@ip-86-49-16-65.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:12 -!- Hoolootwo is now known as Hooloovo0 16:10 < kanzure> https://www.cnbc.com/video/2019/01/25/open-insulin-is-making-insulin-in-a-lab-to-prove-it-can-be-cheaper.html 16:57 -!- Jay_Dugger [~jwdugger@47.185.249.138] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:58 -!- Jay_Dugger [~jwdugger@47.185.249.138] has quit [Client Quit] 17:46 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:55 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@unaffiliated/gurkenglas] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:00 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:21 -!- l_wl [~l_wl@pool-173-66-183-216.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:21 -!- l_wl [~l_wl@pool-173-66-183-216.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:48 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:49 -!- justan0theruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:54 -!- justan0theruser is now known as justanotheruser 19:57 < nmz787> regarding baby cries, I am relatively tolerant to it versus my wife 19:58 < nmz787> it distracts her a good bit more, and also hurts her ears more... though I have a slight advantage in this sense, I guess, since I have mild hearing loss in one ear due to popping my eardrum a few times starting with a coincidence diving into a swimming pool 19:59 < nmz787> I do however think that more instrumentation could be helpful, chained with some machine learning/algorithms/AI 20:00 < nmz787> there are a lot of factors that go into be aware of his signals, and sometimes other shit like works gets in the way of observing them, so I/we lose track of the data 20:00 < nmz787> but I have thought some sort of markov-chain shit could be useful 20:01 < nmz787> in the first 3-6 months of his life, I would pretty much run down a checklist anytime he started being antsy or whining 20:02 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20:02 < nmz787> 1) take him to the bathroom for a 'pottytunity' (potty opportunity) and to check if he was soiled 2) ask his mom to feed him 3) dance a bit with pelvic gyrations to attempt to move any gas buildup through his gut 4) take him on a walk outside to see if he was simply bored 20:03 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:07 < nmz787> and tbh I have held off on any vaccinations... mainly because there's a ton of open litigation with the major vaccine suppliers (at least in the US) and guidelines for introducing allergenic foods have shifted dramatically in the past 2 decades, but vaccination schedules have not. Big business not wanting to lose out on any business whatsoever is also a factor. And moreover I have a lifestyle that 20:07 < nmz787> approaches that of a hermit... just today we skipped out on heading to an international auto show that I had free tickets to, because of the local measles outbreak. We chose to do our recreation on a hiking trail instead, where we saw few people. 20:07 < nmz787> I also am not anti-vax, since I've made antibodies from the ground up before 20:07 < nmz787> (hybridoma technique_ 20:08 < nmz787> juts waiting til he is past the 'whitelisting' stage of immunogenicity that the food allergy people have now stumbled upon 20:08 < nmz787> been planning on starting at 1 year... 20:09 < nmz787> and wasted investment really doesn't come into play whatsoever... vaccines are cheap, whether I use insurance or pay out of pocket 20:10 < nmz787> I surely waste more money on random lab equipment and other project idea supplies 20:11 < nmz787> at the same time, a lot of the 'horror' videos online of 'vaccines significantly atering my baby's behavior' and my own time with him being vaccine-free have given me a new perspective on such videos. 20:11 < nmz787> they recant events like 'he talked like crazy before vaccines, then he stopped and it was like a major mental regression' 20:11 < nmz787> but I've seen this sort of thing with him too... without vaccines 20:12 < nmz787> so there's definitely a lot of noise out there 20:14 < nmz787> there's definitely nothing about being 'ungodly' playing into my opinion 20:15 < nmz787> just plain old distrust of greedy corporations 20:52 < fenn> the "wasted investment" referred to being stuck with a retard kid for 50 years 20:52 < fenn> you "invest" time, effort, money, emotional mojo 20:54 < fenn> being in a whitelisting stage of immunity development would seem to prevent vaccines from taking effect 20:54 < fenn> if it were true, vaccines given during that time period shouldn't work 20:58 < fenn> people raised in northerly latitudes tend to have higher IQ than genetically similar people farther south. a hypothesis is that they are exposed to less pathogens in the environment, less microbial burden, and less immune activation frees up energy and nutrients to go to brain development 20:58 < fenn> vaccines intentionally stir up the immune system and would negate that 20:59 < fenn> it's a pretty tenuous line of argument 21:02 < kanzure> "if it were true, vaccines given during that time period shouldn't work" hm what? has anyone tested giving a vaccine to a 3 month old fetus..? 21:03 < fenn> i thought that was standard practice 21:03 < kanzure> for a 3 month old infant yes, i don't think a developing fetus is given vaccines though 21:04 < fenn> that's not the time period we're talking about 21:04 < fenn> it wouldn't make sense to have immune whitelisting only while in a sterile womb 21:04 < kanzure> i was thinking of the trick where you get the cell to express a virus capsid and you develop into an organism that is immunotolerant to that molecule 21:05 < kanzure> you might be talking about something else 21:36 < nmz787> fenn: I do remember reading that 3 year olds require less vaccine dosage than infants to get the same levels of antibody titer 21:38 < nmz787> and this was reason to jack up the adjuvants in infant doses 21:41 * nmz787 searches for that reference 21:43 < nmz787> wtf now even google scholar ignores verbatim search with quotes :( 21:45 < nmz787> ugh, I really wish there was a better search out there for power users 21:46 < nmz787> I would probably pay for that at this point 21:48 < nmz787> "I think a lot of the complaints about the change in search engine is from people who are still trying to use modern search engines they way they used them in 2000. Don't. Don't carefully craft your queries, just type a question, or paste a big pile of related text. That's what the masses do, so that's what Google optimizes for. " 22:07 < fenn> great, i'll just be an idiot then 22:07 < fenn> it works for idiots! 22:08 < fenn> or it doesn't, who knows 22:11 < nmz787> well I suspect we won't have this problem for journal articles soon enough, at least in this chat roo 22:11 < nmz787> s/roo/room/ 22:12 < nmz787> although I might need to donate some CPUs for grepping and such 22:24 < nmz787> well I don't think this was the one, but it at least seems similar https://academic.oup.com/jid/article/213/12/2005/2572162 22:24 < nmz787> "MMR induces similar antibody responses in 12-month-old children as compared to 18-month-old children, but in boys increasing age appears to improve the antibody responses. " 22:37 -!- l_wl [~l_wl@pool-173-66-183-216.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:54 < nmz787> this is dated, but generally refers to what I remember previously reading https://books.google.com/books?id=WiXlBwAAQBAJ&pg=PA65 22:54 < nmz787> .title 22:54 < yoleaux> Immunobiology of Proteins and Peptides V: Vaccines Mechanisms, Design, and ... - Google Books 22:56 < nmz787> "In children, the antibody response to PRP vaccine develops slowly with age: there is generally little detectable response in infants younger than 18 months of age, after which the rate and level of response increases rapidly through age three years, and then more slowly through age six years." 22:58 < nmz787> "While HbPs was effective in protecting healthy children of 18-24 months and older against invasive Haemophilus b disease, it did not protect younger children who have the highest incidence of Haemophilus b disease (Peltola et al., 1997)." 22:59 < nmz787> oops, I had a typo in the date 22:59 < nmz787> that should be Peltola et al., 1977 22:59 < nmz787> .title http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/60/5/730 22:59 < yoleaux> Haemophilus influenzae Type b Capsular Polysaccharide Vaccine in Children: A Double-Blind Field Study of 100,000 Vaccinees 3 Months to 5 Years of Age in Finland | Articles | Pediatrics 23:00 < nmz787> "The serum antibody response to the H. influenzae type b polysaccharide, measured by radioimmunoassay, was poor in children below 18 months of age and good in those above it. " 23:08 < nmz787> and any loving parent reading up on the topic is surely to be scared after reading just a single page of https://vaers.hhs.gov/ 23:08 < nmz787> .title 23:08 < yoleaux> Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) 23:08 < nmz787> (reading the data itself) 23:10 < nmz787> now certainly my response and reaction might be significantly different if I and my wife weren't in a position to live similar to hermits, working from home often/primarily 23:10 < nmz787> hrmm," certainly might" doesn't quite compute... but anyway 23:11 < nmz787> onto other topics 23:11 < nmz787> .title https://github.com/rwb27/openflexure_microscope 23:11 < yoleaux> GitHub - rwb27/openflexure_microscope: A 3D printable microscope and translation stage 23:11 < nmz787> .title https://aip.scitation.org/doi/10.1063/1.4941068 23:12 < nmz787> A one-piece 3D printed flexure translation stage for open-source microscopy 23:12 < nmz787> "We have overcome many of the limitations of 3D printed mechanisms by exploiting the compliance of the plastic to produce a monolithic 3D printed flexure translation stage, capable of sub-micron-scale motion over a range of 8 × 8 × 4 mm. This requires minimal post-print clean-up and can be automated with readily available stepper motors. The resulting plastic composite structure is very stiff and 23:12 < nmz787> exhibits remarkably low drift, moving less than 20 μm over the course of a week, without temperature stabilisation. " 23:15 -!- yashgaroth [~yashgarot@2606:6000:c308:f700:d49a:c6f4:c7e:3e72] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:21 < fenn> http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2016/06/maverick-scientist-thinks-he-has-discovered-magnetic-sixth-sense-humans 23:23 < nmz787> re aggresive reforestation https://brightvibes.com/1083/en/the-brazilian-photographer-and-the-20-year-reforestation-project-of-over-27-million-trees 23:54 < nmz787> fenn: great find 23:55 < nmz787> https://www.comsol.com/paper/download/101163/olivares_paper.pdf "Coil Systems to Generate Uniform Magnetic Field Volumes" 23:55 < nmz787> the renderings of field lines of a few coil systems are neat to look at 23:55 < nmz787> though they're lower resolution images than I would like --- Log closed Sun Jan 27 00:00:32 2019