--- Log opened Mon Mar 04 00:00:06 2019 00:02 -!- Urchin [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:40 -!- FourFire [~FourFire@234.103.189.109.customer.cdi.no] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:44 -!- uniera [~uniera@2001:8a0:ff7e:2001:cc7b:7701:1e3a:9eb8] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:45 -!- uniera_ [~uniera@bl6-214-176.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:45 -!- uniera_ [~uniera@bl6-214-176.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Client Quit] 01:48 -!- uniera [~uniera@2001:8a0:ff7e:2001:cc7b:7701:1e3a:9eb8] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:49 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:06 < nsh> probably 02:07 < nsh> it's good that some things have helped kickstart this conversation 02:18 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: mnemon 02:18 -!- Netsplit over, joins: mnemon 02:37 < nsh> brains already operate nonlocally 02:37 < nsh> the human brain <-> computer interface 'just' requires computers to be a bit less classical 02:58 < TMA> nsh: citation needed. As far as I know, there is no non-classical process involved in the brain 02:59 < TMA> nsh: are you just using the 'nonlocally' in a different sense? 03:07 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@unaffiliated/gurkenglas] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:08 < nsh> never mind :) 03:08 < nsh> lol 03:09 < nsh> the room in your head is in the same place as the room outside your head but i can't be bothered trying to explain :) 03:10 < nsh> jeff hawkins has some of it figured out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVGQeFFjhEk 03:17 < ebowden> kanzure, where's the paper on safely and selectively erasing old and new memories alike in mice by over-expressing CaMKII whilst the memory was being recalled? 03:20 < nsh> yeah i wonder how they evoked them to block reformation of the memory 03:20 < nsh> maybe presenting a task again 04:14 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@unaffiliated/gurkenglas] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 04:18 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@unaffiliated/gurkenglas] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:59 < fltrz> yeah to me that also sounds not like erasing but overwritinng, I'd love to read that paper 05:06 < ebowden> Overwrite the time you shat yourself on the bus and everyone laughed at you with that time you got a standing ovation. 05:54 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:01 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@unaffiliated/gurkenglas] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:31 -!- spaceangel [~spaceange@ip-86-49-16-65.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:45 -!- hehelleshin [~talinck@cpe-174-97-113-184.cinci.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:45 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:48 -!- helleshin [~talinck@cpe-174-97-113-184.cinci.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:48 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:55 < nsh> on it 07:26 < fltrz> ebowden, how does one make sure the overwrite is not in the other direction? 07:26 < ebowden> I can't find the paper. 09:01 -!- strages [uid11297@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ldihtjohloywbkqo] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:38 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@unaffiliated/gurkenglas] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:57 < fltrz> is there an optical imaging modality that can image gas collision densities? 09:57 < fltrz> I was thinking perhaps with raman spectroscopy/imaging 10:00 -!- Urchin [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:00 < fltrz> consider such a hypothetical apparatus, and consider the gas collision density to be a *mixture* i.e. a sum of a density function (coll/m^3) + planar distributions sigma (coll/m^2) + linear distributions tau (coll/m) and dirac delta distributions (collisions at a point) 10:02 < fltrz> mid-air gas molecules have a certain collision density, but a solid surface will have an asymptotically high volumetric collision density, since its a 2D collision density 10:03 < fltrz> perhaps this could be used to bypass the diffraction limit without ionizing radiation (UV, high energy electrons, x-rays) 10:03 < fltrz> and without requiring metalization or a scanning probe 10:04 < fltrz> nor needing a vacuum 10:20 -!- sachy [~sachy@78.108.102.220] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:02 -!- Urchin [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:12 -!- sachy [~sachy@78.108.102.220] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 11:15 -!- sachy [~sachy@78.108.102.220] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:52 -!- CryptoDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cmfywximeuevpgwd] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 12:08 -!- fenn [~fenn@unaffiliated/fenn] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:08 -!- kanzure [~kanzure@unaffiliated/kanzure] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:08 -!- fenn [~fenn@unaffiliated/fenn] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:09 -!- kanzure [~kanzure@unaffiliated/kanzure] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:07 -!- Urchin [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:43 -!- FourFire [~FourFire@234.103.189.109.customer.cdi.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:45 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@unaffiliated/gurkenglas] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 14:38 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@unaffiliated/malvolio] has quit [Quit: Caedite eos. 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