--- Log opened Mon May 13 00:00:11 2019 00:03 -!- LeoTal [~Adium@221.170.86.79.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:03 -!- LeoTal1 [~Adium@221.170.86.79.rev.sfr.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:03 -!- periffis [~g@66.205.193.3] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:13 -!- LeoTal1 [~Adium@221.170.86.79.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:14 -!- LeoTal [~Adium@221.170.86.79.rev.sfr.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:50 -!- NikopolSohru [~Nikopol_@unaffiliated/nikopolsohru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:40 -!- CryptoDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zenmfbbksdlrhlkv] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 05:58 -!- nickjohnson [sid789@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lbfbzvhtwvaxudir] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:59 -!- mrdata [~mrdata@unaffiliated/mrdata] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:59 -!- midnightmagic [~midnightm@unaffiliated/midnightmagic] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:00 -!- mrdata_ [~mrdata@unaffiliated/mrdata] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:00 -!- sivoais [~zaki@unaffiliated/sivoais] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 06:01 -!- sivoais [~zaki@unaffiliated/sivoais] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:11 -!- purpleshift [purpleshif@gateway/vpn/mullvad/purpleshift] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:13 -!- nickjohnson [sid789@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vyhyptxmeetgwyjn] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:15 -!- abetusk [~abe@68.175.142.87] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:18 -!- midnightmagic [~midnightm@unaffiliated/midnightmagic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:48 -!- kuldeep_ is now known as kuldeep 07:51 -!- NikopolSohru [~Nikopol_@89.238.185.108] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:51 -!- strages [uid11297@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pptilbiamgobycdy] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:51 -!- NikopolSohru [~Nikopol_@89.238.185.108] has quit [Changing host] 07:51 -!- NikopolSohru [~Nikopol_@unaffiliated/nikopolsohru] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:13 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffffff@2606:6000:ca81:3100:34a3:f94e:e442:adf4] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:40 -!- sachy [~sachy@91.146.121.5] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:02 -!- LeoTal [~Adium@221.170.86.79.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:03 -!- LeoTal [~Adium@221.170.86.79.rev.sfr.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:51 < archels> "The brain has about 10^14 synapses and we only live for about 10^9 seconds. So we have a lot more parameters than data." 09:54 * nsh frowns 09:54 < nsh> i have no idea what this is supposed to mean 09:54 < nsh> but i suspect it's wrongthink 10:03 -!- Urchin [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:09 < archels> the brain learns models of how the world works, but there are many more parameters than there are data points to constrain the model 10:09 < archels> this is via Yann LeCun's 2017 lecture at Cognitive Computing 10:35 -!- hehelleshin [~talinck@98.29.27.253] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:39 -!- helleshin [~talinck@98.29.27.253] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 10:39 -!- purpleshift [purpleshif@gateway/vpn/mullvad/purpleshift] has quit [Quit: .] 10:40 -!- jtimon [~quassel@181.61.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:03 -!- l_wl [~l_wl@pool-173-66-183-216.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:04 -!- cluelessperson [~cluelessp@unaffiliated/cluelessperson] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 11:06 -!- cluelessperson [~cluelessp@unaffiliated/cluelessperson] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:22 -!- LeoTal [~Adium@221.170.86.79.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:22 -!- LeoTal [~Adium@221.170.86.79.rev.sfr.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:27 -!- spaceangel [~spaceange@ip-86-49-16-65.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:16 -!- NikopolSohru [~Nikopol_@unaffiliated/nikopolsohru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:54 -!- spaceangel [~spaceange@ip-86-49-16-65.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:31 < nsh> hm 14:59 < TMA> well, what is the amount of inputs? like the number of touch-sensing neurons in the skin? 15:00 < TMA> or the number of neurons in retina, cochlea, ... actually wherever a neuron accepts signals from non-neuronal environment (outside world or neighboring tissue) 15:05 < TMA> there inputs are sampled way more frequently than 1 Hz. I gather that we obtain a lot more data per second than is implied in the statement 15:09 < TMA> https://biology.stackexchange.com/questions/50976/how-many-sensory-neurons-are-in-the-human-body similar question asked by someone else 15:13 < TMA> the estimates there are 3e6 to 15e9; at 5Hz sampling that's 16Mbps to 75Gbps of input data 15:14 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffffff@2606:6000:ca81:3100:34a3:f94e:e442:adf4] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:14 < TMA> *15Mbps 15:15 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffffff@cpe-76-176-31-235.san.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:19 < TMA> so even at the low end we have 10^14 parameters and 1.5*10^16, while on the high end we have 7.5*10^19 bits of ddata per lifetime 15:29 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffffff@cpe-76-176-31-235.san.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:29 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffffff@2606:6000:ca81:3100:34a3:f94e:e442:adf4] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:43 -!- yashgaroth_ [~ffffffff@cpe-76-176-31-235.san.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:46 -!- LeoTal [~Adium@221.170.86.79.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 15:46 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffffff@2606:6000:ca81:3100:34a3:f94e:e442:adf4] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:14 -!- yashgaroth_ [~ffffffff@cpe-76-176-31-235.san.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:14 -!- yashgaroth_ [~ffffffff@cpe-76-176-31-235.san.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:35 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:47 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:01 -!- periffis [~g@66.205.193.3] has quit [Quit: periffis] 18:17 -!- strages [uid11297@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pptilbiamgobycdy] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 18:25 -!- l_wl [~l_wl@pool-173-66-183-216.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 18:45 -!- l_wl [~l_wl@pool-173-66-183-216.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:10 -!- balrog [~balrog@unaffiliated/balrog] has quit [Quit: Bye] 19:13 -!- balrog [~balrog@unaffiliated/balrog] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:30 -!- jtimon [~quassel@181.61.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:46 -!- l_wl [~l_wl@pool-173-66-183-216.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:47 -!- l_wl [~l_wl@pool-173-66-183-216.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:04 -!- LeoTal [~Adium@221.170.86.79.rev.sfr.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:04 -!- jtimon [~quassel@181.61.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:06 -!- yashgaroth_ [~ffffffff@cpe-76-176-31-235.san.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:29 -!- NikopolSohru [~Nikopol_@185.217.171.40] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:29 -!- NikopolSohru [~Nikopol_@185.217.171.40] has quit [Changing host] 23:29 -!- NikopolSohru [~Nikopol_@unaffiliated/nikopolsohru] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:45 -!- jtimon [~quassel@181.61.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] --- Log closed Tue May 14 00:00:12 2019