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02:18 < personx> (12.5mg paroxetine + 2mg clonazepam + 25mg metoprolol + 200mg tapentadol) Every 2.5 hrs. Used it for the stimulating effect for energy and getting rid of my severe anxiety and controlling my body temperature/perception. What can I replace this with?
03:13 < aeiousomething> if they can make tech to let us control our own brain that would be nice.. like willing yourself into generation of stem cells
03:16 < personx> nervous regeneration. look it up.
03:19 < personx> aeiousomething, besides, if bio-tech ever reached that level, it would HAVE to go through superimposing on the perception signals. and once you achieved that, there really wouldn't be any point to 'willing anything into regeneration'.
03:20 < aeiousomething> personx thanks reading about this, I was hoping to find something about individual organ based stem cell research something relaed to kidneys maybe .. mostly coz I just found out (in the last year) that i have an autoimmune condition that wrecks my kidneys
03:20 < aeiousomething> why would there be no point
03:21 < personx> which AID?
03:23 < personx> and well, I guess that answer would be different for different people. for me personally, I believe our lives are a movie of one delusion to another and the next and so on, so for me, sitting down in one place and creating my own delusion and living that delusion till my body dies would be just as good as going outside and living the perfect life.
03:25 < personx> aeiousomething, again, which AID?
03:34 < aeiousomething> IgA
03:34 < aeiousomething> nephropathy
03:35 < aeiousomething> so oyu think were ina  simulation.. with a supposed next phase.. that is all fine and dandy, and despite the number of things i Hate in this "supposed phase" I actually like this phase and wouldn't mind continuing it a bit longer and living a happy life
03:36 < aeiousomething> also you say  movie, like you think your entire life is a predefined equation
03:36 < aeiousomething> that's determinism.. and I don't subscribe to it
03:37 < personx> IgA nephropathy, you don't have to worry, there is plenty that can be done in succession to keep things in check.
03:38 < personx> I understand that any and every action is futile 'cause the end is always the same. death.
03:38 < personx> also, nothing is permanent but change.
03:39 < personx> no matter how many lives you touch, how many monuments you build, how many patients you save, it all goes to dust. just a matter of time.
03:40 < personx> I don't subscribe to determinism either. what I practice is called 'Vairagya'. it roughly means detachment from temporary material pleasures/pain.
03:47 < aeiousomething> i know what vairagya means
03:48 < aeiousomething> I'm Indian
03:48 < aeiousomething> also I am not worried.. just disappointed..
03:49 < personx> hey, I'm an Indian too! :D xD
03:49 < personx> and why are you disappointed?
03:49 < aeiousomething> I can't do anything..
03:49 < aeiousomething> wake up without enough sleep = rise in blood pressure = more wreckage of nephrons
03:49 < aeiousomething> work out hard = rise in blood pressure = more wreckage of nephrons
03:49 < aeiousomething> I have 35% kidney function left.
03:49 < aeiousomething> I'm in my early 30s.
03:50  * darsie has a kidney stone.
03:50 < personx> 35% can't be right.
03:50 < aeiousomething> it is
03:50 < aeiousomething> that's how iga works
03:50 < personx> no.
03:50 < aeiousomething> I didn't even have symptoms
03:50 < personx> I study medicine.
03:50 < aeiousomething> oh
03:50 < personx> that's not how it works.
03:50 < aeiousomething> my egfr is 34
03:50 < aeiousomething> sure it's not a perfect percentage
03:50 < aeiousomething> but that only means that high gfr is usually over 100 (sometimes upto 120) and that my actual "percentage" is even low
03:51 < aeiousomething> i mean if you study medicine you must know that once a nephron is dead, there's no bringig it back .. OR making new ones
03:52 < aeiousomething> I tried to google this at first and found a lot of posts about people who had egfr of 74 and were concerned. They were all in their 70s lol.
03:52 < personx> you're in your 30s, yes?
03:52 < personx> and 35% function left.
03:52 < aeiousomething> yeah
03:52 < personx> that's sorta weird.
03:52 < aeiousomething> why
03:53 < aeiousomething> I'm part of an IgA group.. there are kids here who are 21 and on dialysis
03:53 < personx> umm, how frequent are your sessions?
03:53 < aeiousomething> what sessions
03:53 < personx> (dialysis sessions)
03:53 < aeiousomething> I see my neph once every 3 months
03:53 < aeiousomething> I'm not on dialysis
03:53 < aeiousomething> I wont be until I'm under 20
03:53 < personx> why the heck not?!
03:54 < personx> no no, those are just guidelines
03:54 < personx> didn't your doctor talk to you about this?
03:54 < aeiousomething> no doctor asked me to go on dialysis just yet
03:56 < aeiousomething> has*
03:56 < personx> also no one advised you to get on dialysis asap? o.O
03:56 < aeiousomething> what
03:56 < aeiousomething> dialysis starts at 15
03:56 < aeiousomething> usually
03:56 < personx> again, guidelines.
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03:57 < aeiousomething> yes and that's mostly how medicine works.. and most people don't go on dialysis at 35 they stay in it for decades
03:57 < aeiousomething> esp with iga
03:57 < personx> the harder you work an organ/unit, the more exhausted it gets. kidneys and your pineal glands are two organs that get the MOST blood supplied to them
03:57 < aeiousomething> sure
03:58 < personx> (^again, that's why I said you don't have to worry, there's plenty to do to keep things in check with IgA)
03:58 < personx> you getting the logic I'm trying to get across?
03:59 < aeiousomething> you think i don't know this?
03:59 < aeiousomething> my fear is not of death
04:00 < aeiousomething> it's of dying before being able to do what I want to do
04:00 < personx> brother, not trying to be condescending.
04:00 < aeiousomething> not sayig you are .. I know it can be slow or fast.. I just don't have full control over what I can do .. like normal people do
04:00 < aeiousomething> I the studies are mostly 50/50 on working out vs not working out
04:00 < personx> again, don't worry about that either bhai. you won't die that soon. life's long. I'm sure you've figured this out by now.
04:01 < aeiousomething> again, not worried about death
04:01 < aeiousomething> longevity is not my concern
04:01 < aeiousomething> being able to play sports, workout, eat whatever I want, sleep however long I want are some of the things I want
04:02 < aeiousomething> none of which I can have
04:02 < personx> so do it! :'D
04:02 < personx> sure you can
04:03 < personx> look
04:03 < personx> chuskiyon main kyon jeena, poora jee na?
04:03 < personx> I mean, would you rather die a slow painful death or go out with a big bang?
04:03 < personx> your choice. you ALWAYS have a choice.
04:04 < personx> and forget about normal. what is normal? NO ONE is normal.
04:05 < aeiousomething> it's easier said than done
04:05 < personx> you're talking to a seriously unorthodox med student / addict.
04:06 < personx> trust me, I know what I'm talking about.
04:06 < aeiousomething> yeah I can tell when you're advicing people to "go out with a big bang" lol
04:06 < personx> hehehe xD
04:06 < aeiousomething> nobody goes out with a big bang.. in the grand scheme of things it wont even be a little bang
04:06 < aeiousomething> the only thing you can do is live your life to the fullest but it isn't easy with the symptoms I am now noticing and have always just attributed to my general overall laziness
04:07 < personx> see, now you're talking rationally. but it just doesn't matter. the only thing that matters is what YOU experience while in this body. which is exactly what I was trying to say when I said "if bio-tech ever reached that level, it would HAVE to go through superimposing on the perception signals. and once you achieved that, there really wouldn't be any point to 'willing anything into regeneration'."
04:08 < aeiousomething> yea you're talking about simply manipulating what you feel
04:08 < aeiousomething> but it can't manipulate what youa ctually do
04:08 < personx> exactly.
04:09 < personx> well that's where we differ in our point of views.
04:09 < aeiousomething> but if you did make yourself better you could actually do something about it
04:09 < aeiousomething> how so
04:09 < personx> our minds don't have the ability to differentiate between reality and delusions. [not hallucinations]
04:09 < aeiousomething> sure
04:09 < personx> mirroring neurons.
04:09 < aeiousomething> I don't think I'm living a delusion ... well not 100% of the time
04:09 < personx> that's how we enjoy movies and tv.
04:09 < aeiousomething> lol
04:10 < personx> so if the mind believes you're feeling good, you WILL feel good.
04:10 < aeiousomething> are you feeling good
04:10 < aeiousomething> at least 50% of the time
04:10 < personx> and it won't matter what disease you have or what organs are failing.
04:11 < aeiousomething> perceptions aren't the only thing keeping you alive last I checked
04:11 < personx> hah, brother, I'm a 7 years opioid addict clean for around 6 months now. what do you think I'm feeling? xD
04:11 < aeiousomething> what were you addicted to
04:11 < personx> again, I thought you said 'longevity' was not of importance to you. :3
04:12 < aeiousomething> it isn't I was only responding to your "no point" logic
04:12 < aeiousomething> there is a point
04:12 < personx> well, just to set the record straight, here's my belief - I prefer quality over longevity.
04:12 < aeiousomething> me too
04:13 < aeiousomething> but you don't necessarily get quality
04:13 < aeiousomething> when you can't sleep all night due to symptoms of ckd that your'e trying to offset with 5 glasses of sangria and thc tincture on a regular basis
04:14 < personx> try chandu, it'll give you the quality you're looking for.
04:14 < aeiousomething> what's chandu
04:14 < personx> tho I have to warn you, its chasing the dragon.
04:15 < personx> chandu is the purest form of opium. you vape it. it doesn't even leave any residue. but you can't get it in big cities. you have to go into deep areas of villages to get that.
04:17 < aeiousomething> no thanks
04:17 < personx> haha, I wouldn't recommend it. :3
04:17 < aeiousomething> you kind of just did
04:17 < aeiousomething> but I'm ok
04:17 < personx> not to a opioid naive patient at that. xD
04:18 < personx> nah, I suggested it. wouldn't recommend it. xD
04:18 < aeiousomething> I dont have to be an opiod expert to say no to opiods
04:18 < personx> good lad.
04:19 < personx> 'cause it really sucks to be sucked back down to normal human life when you've experienced what life COULD be like.
04:20 < aeiousomething> I like the normal human life and I get that that's how it feels when you are addicted. But I don't care for it.
04:21 < personx> well, that's good for you. I don't believe in 'luck' but you're lucky, if you get what I mean.
04:22 < aeiousomething> I do
04:22 < personx> see, I'm a complete total narcissistic sociopathic hedonist. thus my preference of quality over longevity.
04:22 < aeiousomething> that's easy
04:23 < aeiousomething> I called myself that for ages
04:23 < aeiousomething> doesn't work for everyone.. not everyone is a sociopath and people are notoriously bad at self diagnosing
04:23 < aeiousomething> the fact that you are calling yourself one makes me want to believe you just want to be one and are not infact one
04:23 < personx> yeah, that part I get, 'cause I see that almost every day at my rounds in the hospital (I told ya I'm studying medicine, right? xD)
04:24 < aeiousomething> yeah my family is full of surgeons
04:24 < personx> I, infact, have been diagnosed with ASPD off the charts by not one but multiple psych doctors. :3
04:24 < aeiousomething> it doesn't matter
04:24 < aeiousomething> the rest of it also doesn't
04:24 < aeiousomething> it's just easy to be all of those things
04:25 < aeiousomething> easy to not give a shit .. it's harder to actually care for something.. that's what fucks everything up
04:25 < aeiousomething> but that's just my opinion
04:25 < personx> I know, that's why I choose it. like I said earlier, you ALWAYS have a choice.
04:25 < aeiousomething> you sound like the first doctor I met when I got diagnosed
04:25 < aeiousomething> "Don't die until you die"
04:25 < aeiousomething> .. I wasn't even thinkign about dying until he said it
04:26 < aeiousomething> lol
04:26 < personx> hahaha xD well he gave you the right advice
04:27 < aeiousomething> *shrug* he just talked a lot
04:27 < personx> there's no point in living if you're dying everyday.
04:27 < personx> [no, I'm not talking from the biological perspective there^ xD]
04:27 < aeiousomething> yeah I get it
04:29 < personx> see, if you get your psyche smoothed, you'll never contradict yourself. I haven't done that in this entire conversation yet. :3
04:29 < personx> so that's really my point, mind over matter.
04:29 < personx> you feel good, you ARE good.
04:30 < aeiousomething> lol this isn't you vs me brother
04:30 < aeiousomething> now I believe you're Indian ;)
04:31 < personx> it sure isn't. its not even the world vs I. it never is. we just delude ourselves into thinking that.
04:31 < aeiousomething> I haven't contradicted myself either. I just don't see a clear path forward. Not worried about how it all ends as I repeated.
04:31 < aeiousomething> I have to head to work now
04:31 < personx> you work at a call center? o.O
04:31 < aeiousomething> lol
04:32 < aeiousomething> I don't live in India
04:32 < personx> ah, scratch that then. xD
04:32 < personx> May the force be with you, brother :))
04:33 < aeiousomething> cheers bud
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06:22 < archels_> how does the Logitech Spotlight work?
06:22 < archels_> Google is failing to yield answers
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07:10 < fenn> MEMS gyro + accelerometer + kalman filter
07:34 < archels_> how does it get absolute coordinates?
07:34 < archels_> maybe there's a camera inside
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07:35 < kanzure> https://github.com/trezor/python-shamir-mnemonic
07:51 < fenn> i haven't seen a full demo of how to use it, but my guess is you point it at the center of the screen when turning it on
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08:51 < kanzure> https://medium.com/bitbees/breaking-hexa-after-breaking-bitcoin-1ee27ba1a30d
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09:23 < hrofu> fellas, does anyone have a lobster invite lying around?
09:23 < hrofu> lobste.rs I mean
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09:49 < fenn> https://www.news-medical.net/news/20190613/Scientists-turn-type-A-blood-into-universal-type-O-potentially-doubling-blood-transfusion-stocks.aspx
09:59 < kanzure> "An enzymatic pathway in the human gut microbiome that converts A to universal O type blood" https://www.nature.com/articles/s41564-019-0469-7
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11:32 < fenn> https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/06/19/australian-sperm-donor-wins-legal-battle-recognised-father/
11:33 < fenn> stupid legal system
11:49 < hrofu> wow
11:49 < hrofu> absurd how that works
12:02 < fenn> worse is the precedent it sets, making other sperm donors potentially liable for child support, etc
12:03 < fenn> i don't really see why this is something that needs to be decided by courts at all. it should have been defined already in the law
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12:14 < fenn> now that VR is a thing again shouldn't we have VRML models of products online?
12:16 < fenn> or X3D (the XML based successor to VRML)
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12:29 < TMA> fenn: more likely some proprietary blob, in the best case glTF
12:29 < TMA> fenn: https://www.khronos.org/gltf/
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13:44 < kanzure> .title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13nSISwxrY4
13:44 < yoleaux> Neon Genesis Evangelion | Official Trailer [HD] | Netflix - YouTube
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