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02:56 < archels> panelizing boards for seeed's PCB service is turning into a real drag
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03:49 < maaku> sounds like the Spican structures in Pushing Ice
04:01 < jrayhawk> 4
04:01 < jrayhawk> whoops
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05:58 < kanzure> hmph
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06:28 < kanzure> while true; do sleep 900; zenity --entry --text="what u doin" >> done.txt; done
07:02 < nsh> .wik Pushing Ice
07:02 < EmmyNoether> "Pushing Ice is a 2005 science fiction novel by Welsh author Alastair Reynolds.  According to Reynolds' Web site, the story takes place in a different universe from his Revelation Space stories." - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pushing_Ice
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07:22 < kanzure> mauz555: be greeted
07:27 < faceface> what?
07:33 < kanzure> it's a human greeting ritual
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08:17 < kanzure> "Supercentenarians and the oldest-old are concentrated into regions with no birth certificates and short lifespans" https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/704080v1
08:21 < kanzure> "Whole integration of neural connectomics, dynamics and bio-mechanics for identification of behavioral sensorimotor pathways in Caenorhabditis elegans" https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/724328v1
08:21 < kanzure> "Acoustic mist ionization platform " https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acs.analchem.9b00142 (acoustic liquid handling stuff)
08:23 < kanzure> "Kilohertz frame-rate two-photon tomography" https://www.nature.com/articles/s41592-019-0493-9
08:23 < kanzure> "Point-scanning two-photon microscopy enables high-resolution imaging within scattering specimens such as the mammalian brain, but sequential acquisition of voxels fundamentally limits its speed. We developed a two-photon imaging technique that scans lines of excitation across a focal plane at multiple angles and computationally recovers high-resolution images, attaining voxel rates of over 1 ...
08:23 < kanzure> ...billion Hz in structured samples. Using a static image as a prior for recording neural activity, we imaged visually evoked and spontaneous glutamate release across hundreds of dendritic spines in mice at depths over 250 µm and frame rates over 1 kHz. Dendritic glutamate transients in anesthetized mice are synchronized within spatially contiguous domains spanning tens of micrometers at ...
08:23 < kanzure> ...frequencies ranging from 1–100 Hz. We demonstrate millisecond-resolved recordings of acetylcholine and voltage indicators, three-dimensional single-particle tracking and imaging in densely labeled cortex."
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09:14 < fenn> several reliable sources inform me that humans perform the greeting ritual upon initiation of communications
09:19 < kanzure> would you like to obtain nutritional sustenance with your fellow compatriots in the current chronological index?
09:20 < fenn> negatory, my nutritional needs have been satisficed
09:23 < fenn> blue green algae 10g, protein fraction of bovine secretion 10g, endocarp of Musa sapientum 100g, soluble fiber 5g, homogenized bovine secretion 200g
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10:15 < docl> Performance of greeting ritual.
10:48 < kanzure> acceptance of negotiated greeting
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11:51 < docl> hmm. nobody has put a cryptocoin in space that can't be mined on earth due to latency issues, have they? that would be cool.
11:54 < docl> you could put a server in L5 with a 1-second block time, make everything route through it. proximity would be just as important as hashing power.
11:59 < docl> proof of max proximity could also be used with multiple points to create a volume of cells. you could induce the mining rigs to physically occupy the cells (or move between them) by making the block rewards higher the longer a given cell has gone unoccupied.
12:04 < kanzure> you can use a satellite on the other side of the sun to serve as a physical speed-of-light constrained timelock
12:05 < kanzure> or https://people.xiph.org/~greg/decentralized-time.txt not sure if that's satellite related, i forget.
12:07 < docl> I thought of trying the 'reward occupation of a volume of cells' approach on earth to make people build a tower, but you need nanosecond precision to deal with meters, not sure that's realistic
12:08 < docl> The main use would be to prevent the formation of dense hot mining spots by making it more rewarding to spread out
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17:37 < maaku> docl: I don't think you can do something that requires physical latency that can't be cheated by just putting an artificial delay function between the nodes
17:38 < maaku> there are people that have looked at proof of low latency however, e.g. to allow a martian chain that can't be overrun by earth miners
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19:05 < docl> maaku: I'm thinking more the absence of latency. adding latency is easy, but that's unprofitable if it means other people will be solving blocks ahead of you
19:07 < docl> so to make this work, you could have multiple satellites that emit random signals. the mining rig can prove itself to be no further than x distance from each point by having lower than y pingtime to all of them simultaneously
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22:22 < maaku> docl: use radio noise from the Sun and Jupiter
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