--- Log opened Fri Aug 09 00:00:35 2019 00:14 -!- darsie [~kvirc@84-114-73-160.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:30 -!- darsie [~kvirc@84-114-73-160.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has left ##hplusroadmap ["bye"] 00:33 -!- mauz555 [~mauz555@2a01:e35:8ab1:dea0:b523:9b26:7d33:44f5] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:45 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b75:5983:c203:baaa:a2a0] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:59 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 01:00 -!- Burninate [~Burn@pool-108-51-46-154.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:01 -!- Burninate [~Burn@pool-108-51-46-154.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:08 -!- Dr-G [~Dr-G@unaffiliated/dr-g] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:11 -!- mauz555 [~mauz555@2a01:e35:8ab1:dea0:b523:9b26:7d33:44f5] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:29 -!- mauz555 [~mauz555@2a01:e35:8ab1:dea0:b523:9b26:7d33:44f5] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:55 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:00 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 02:12 -!- adamsky [~adamsky3@178235181168.unknown.vectranet.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:24 -!- mauz555 [~mauz555@2a01:e35:8ab1:dea0:b523:9b26:7d33:44f5] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:43 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:46 -!- priontology [~scionce@66.205.193.92] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:48 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:48 -!- mauz555 [~mauz555@2a01:e35:8ab1:dea0:b523:9b26:7d33:44f5] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:49 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:31 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:36 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 05:57 -!- Dr-G [~Dr-G@unaffiliated/dr-g] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:11 -!- CryptoDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tswymxtbnrgxlodz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:17 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:17 -!- ebowden_ [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:33 -!- Urchin [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:03 -!- kuldeep_ [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:09 -!- poppingtonic [~bmn@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Quit: poppingtonic] 07:11 -!- poppingtonic [~bmn@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:13 -!- poppingtonic [~bmn@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Client Quit] 07:13 -!- poppingtonic [~bmn@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:19 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:19 < kanzure> https://www.opera.com/computer/features/battery-saver 07:24 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 07:28 -!- poppingtonic [~bmn@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Quit: poppingtonic] 07:38 -!- spaceangel [~spaceange@89.103.145.93] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 07:49 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffffff@cpe-76-176-31-235.san.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:00 -!- sachy [~sachy@91.146.121.5] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:03 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id= 08:17 -!- CryptoDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tswymxtbnrgxlodz] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 08:21 -!- poppingtonic [~bmn@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:36 < kanzure> "Furthermore, this particular method proved to be effective in the past by the hardware hacker Chris Tarnovsky who conducted an attack which led to damage on the microcontroller disabling the lockdown of Xbox 360 game console. To perform his attack, Tarnovsky used an electron microscope, well-known as ion beam workstation which enabled him to examine the chip in terms of nanometer scale. As a ... 08:36 < kanzure> ...result, he had the ability to manipulate and control its individual wires utilizing microscopic needles" 08:36 < kanzure> where did the needles come from? 08:37 -!- adamsky [~adamsky3@178235181168.unknown.vectranet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:53 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:59 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:08 -!- Urchin[emacs] [~user@unaffiliated/urchin] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 09:28 -!- sachy [~sachy@91.146.121.5] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 09:35 < nmz787> fenn: I think redox is pretty common in electroporation, it happens to the electrolyte 09:37 < nmz787> kanzure: needles there probably means microprober 09:37 < nmz787> .wik Mechanical probe station 09:37 < EmmyNoether> "A mechanical probe station is used to physically acquire signals from the internal nodes of a semiconductor device. The probe station utilizes manipulators which allow the precise positioning of thin needles on the surface of a semiconductor device." - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mechanical_probe_station 09:37 -!- adamsky [~adamsky3@178235181168.unknown.vectranet.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:40 < kanzure> "nodes" meaning transistors? 09:44 -!- poppingtonic [~bmn@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 09:45 -!- MarkOtaris [mark-otari@wikimedia/Mark-Otaris] has quit [Write error: Connection reset by peer] 09:45 -!- kun0[m] [kun0matrix@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-pduiitojkdperncj] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:54 -!- MarkOtaris [mark-otari@wikimedia/Mark-Otaris] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:11 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b75:5983:c203:baaa:a2a0] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 10:20 -!- kun0[m] [kun0matrix@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-xgbwhndzqlodsbdm] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:41 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:42 < nmz787> nodes meaning any XY point of interest... could be a transistor, but probably a metal wire/line 10:46 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 11:15 -!- poppingtonic [~bmn@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:50 -!- mauz555 [~mauz555@2a01:e35:8ab1:dea0:b523:9b26:7d33:44f5] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:51 -!- mauz555 [~mauz555@2a01:e35:8ab1:dea0:b523:9b26:7d33:44f5] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:15 < nsh> a transistor, in any useful configuration, is probably spanning more than one node 12:16 < nsh> nodes will be between lumped components 12:29 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:32 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffffff@cpe-76-176-31-235.san.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:34 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:15 -!- mauz555 [~mauz555@2a01:e35:8ab1:dea0:b523:9b26:7d33:44f5] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:15 -!- mauz555 [~mauz555@2a01:e35:8ab1:dea0:b523:9b26:7d33:44f5] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:15 -!- mauz555 [~mauz555@2a01:e35:8ab1:dea0:b523:9b26:7d33:44f5] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:20 -!- Urchin [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 13:59 -!- LeoTal [~Adium@99.170.86.79.rev.sfr.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:01 -!- justanotheruser [justanothe@gateway/vpn/nordvpn/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 14:06 -!- balrog [~balrog@unaffiliated/balrog] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:08 -!- hehelleshin [~talinck@98.29.27.253] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:09 -!- balrog [~balrog@unaffiliated/balrog] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:12 -!- helleshin [~talinck@98.29.27.253] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:17 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:21 < kanzure> "Justice in CRISPR-Cas9" mistreated populations through underrepresentation of minorities in genomic databases and the potential for disparate access to somatic gene therapies when they become clinically available. We then describe ongoing work that aims to address these justice concerns. We conclude by highlighting important considerations to ensure equitable access to therapies going ... 14:22 < kanzure> ...forward, including enhancing diversity in genomic sequencing efforts, improving education and transparency, and building partnerships with underserved and socially disenfranchised communities. 14:22 < kanzure> whoops 14:22 < kanzure> oh my god what a bunch of word vomit 14:22 < kanzure> meant to link to https://journalofethics.ama-assn.org/article/justice-crisprcas9-research-and-clinical-applications/2018-09 (which, to be fair, is also a bunch of word vomit) 14:22 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:23 < Dr-G> people are more concerned with ethics than actual working therapies 14:42 -!- LeoTal [~Adium@99.170.86.79.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:48 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffffff@cpe-76-176-31-235.san.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:55 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:00 -!- LeoTal [~Adium@99.170.86.79.rev.sfr.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:10 -!- adamsky [~adamsky3@178235181168.unknown.vectranet.pl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:32 < kanzure> https://www.minimalfab.com/en/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsOVbmfYxoM 15:43 -!- mrdata [~mrdata@unaffiliated/mrdata] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:02 -!- poppingtonic [~bmn@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Quit: poppingtonic] 16:02 < kanzure> "Sgxpectre attacks: Stealing intel secrets from sgx enclaves via speculative execution" https://arxiv.org/pdf/1802.09085.pdf (2018) 16:06 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:11 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 16:12 -!- LeoTal [~Adium@99.170.86.79.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 16:15 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:17 -!- sektor [~sektor@95.87.234.241] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:25 < kanzure> "ExSpectre: Hiding malware in speculative execution" https://www.ndss-symposium.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/ndss2019_02B-5_Wampler_paper.pdf 16:26 < kanzure> "NetSpectre: Read arbitrary memory over network" https://arxiv.org/pdf/1807.10535.pdf 16:46 < kanzure> "A systematic evaluation of transient execution attacks and defenses" https://arxiv.org/pdf/1811.05441.pdf 17:32 -!- mrdata [~mrdata@unaffiliated/mrdata] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:35 -!- mrdata_ [~mrdata@unaffiliated/mrdata] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:38 -!- mrdata [~mrdata@unaffiliated/mrdata] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 17:42 -!- mrdata [~mrdata@unaffiliated/mrdata] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:43 -!- mrdata_ [~mrdata@unaffiliated/mrdata] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:46 -!- mrdata_ [~mrdata@unaffiliated/mrdata] has joined ##hplusroadmap 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