--- Log opened Fri Nov 29 00:00:22 2019 00:33 -!- crockwork [~crockwork@c-73-65-254-96.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:35 -!- crockwork [~crockwork@c-73-65-254-96.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 00:38 -!- HumanGeek [~HumanG33k@62.147.242.8] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:39 -!- HumanG33k [~HumanG33k@62.147.242.8] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:01 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:08 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@unaffiliated/malvolio] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:05 -!- adamsky [~adamsky3@178235181168.unknown.vectranet.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:07 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:33 -!- filipepe [uid362247@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mjsxqrwvbiqvzzke] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:46 -!- Urchin [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:23 -!- mrdata [~mrdata@unaffiliated/mrdata] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:26 -!- mrdata [~mrdata@unaffiliated/mrdata] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:47 -!- Urchin [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 05:10 -!- HumanG33k [~HumanG33k@62.147.242.8] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 05:20 -!- HumanG33k [~HumanG33k@62.147.242.8] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:24 -!- HumanG33k [~HumanG33k@62.147.242.8] has quit [Excess Flood] 05:26 -!- HumanG33k [~HumanG33k@62.147.242.8] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:33 -!- Urchin [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:08 -!- superkuh [~superkuh@unaffiliated/superkuh] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:46 -!- sachy [~sachy@88.146.225.178] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:20 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:23 -!- filipepe [uid362247@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mjsxqrwvbiqvzzke] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 07:26 -!- crockwork [~crockwork@c-73-65-254-96.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:28 -!- sachy [~sachy@88.146.225.178] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 07:29 -!- sachy [~sachy@88.146.225.178] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:51 -!- ebowden_ [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 07:58 -!- adamsky [~adamsky3@178235181168.unknown.vectranet.pl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:59 -!- crockwork [~crockwork@c-73-65-254-96.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: crockwork] 08:01 -!- sachy [~sachy@88.146.225.178] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 08:10 -!- andytoshi [~apoelstra@wpsoftware.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:10 -!- andytoshi [~apoelstra@wpsoftware.net] has quit [Changing host] 08:10 -!- andytoshi [~apoelstra@unaffiliated/andytoshi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:33 -!- mauz555 [~mauz555@2a01:e35:8ab1:dea0:4917:e290:2dcb:bde1] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:53 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffffff@2606:6000:ca84:b300:597:d434:ef7:c39e] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:56 < kanzure> barseq > mapseq https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/10/191017141038.htm 09:01 -!- mauz555 [~mauz555@2a01:e35:8ab1:dea0:4917:e290:2dcb:bde1] has quit [] 09:22 < kanzure> .scihub "DNA sequencing in high-throughput neuroanatomy" 09:22 < kanzure> "I see that Zador's genius Klebschull (now at Stanford, I'm trying to contact) has a full roadmap for Synaptome capture: "synaptic barcode localization with in situ barcode sequencing (Chen et al., 2018), and expansion microscopy (Chozinski et al., 2016; Chang et al., 2017; Chen et al., 2015; Wassie et al., 2019) (ExM) provides an alternative avenue for high-throughput synaptic connectomics. ... 09:22 < kanzure> ...Here, pre- and post-synaptically localized barcodes would be detected and read out by in situ sequencing in expanded tissue. The high effective resolution of ExM in combination with synaptic marker staining, or the restriction of in situ sequencing to synapses, would then allow to map synaptic connectivity by simply associating proximal barcodes with each other (compare also refs (Marblestone ... 09:22 < kanzure> ...et al., 2014; Yoon et al., 2017; Underwood, 2016; Mishchenko, 2010)). " 09:37 -!- mauz555 [~mauz555@2a01:e35:8ab1:dea0:4917:e290:2dcb:bde1] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:37 -!- mauz555 [~mauz555@2a01:e35:8ab1:dea0:4917:e290:2dcb:bde1] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:43 -!- LeoTal [~Adium@111.170.86.79.rev.sfr.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:55 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:00 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:08 -!- spaceangel [~spaceange@ip-89-176-139-157.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:14 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 12:26 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:56 -!- Urchin [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:01 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:36 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:40 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b00::3] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:49 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b00::3] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:50 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b00::3] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:54 -!- rpx49 [d5b4279b@213.180.39.155] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:15 -!- Burnin8 [~Burn@pool-96-231-179-50.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:17 -!- rpx49 [d5b4279b@213.180.39.155] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:51 -!- spaceangel [~spaceange@ip-89-176-139-157.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 14:52 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:15 -!- andytoshi [~apoelstra@unaffiliated/andytoshi] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:20 -!- LeoTal [~Adium@111.170.86.79.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:21 -!- LeoTal [~Adium@111.170.86.79.rev.sfr.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:41 < kanzure> "Feasibility of 3d reconstruction of neural morphology using extension microscopy and barcode-guided agglomeration" https://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/neuro/Feasibility%20of%203d%20reconstruction%20of%20neural%20morphology%20using%20extension%20microscopy%20and%20barcode-guided%20agglomeration%20-%20Marblestone%20-%20Boyden%20-%202017.pdf (2017) 15:55 -!- darsie [~kvirc@84-114-73-160.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:59 -!- adamsky [~adamsky3@178235181168.unknown.vectranet.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:20 -!- adamsky [~adamsky3@178235181168.unknown.vectranet.pl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:33 -!- LeoTal [~Adium@111.170.86.79.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:42 < kanzure> https://www.capitalismmagazine.com/2005/08/the-animal-rights-movements-cruelty-to-humans/ 16:42 < kanzure> https://www.capitalismmagazine.com/2004/02/to-ban-cloning-would-be-a-moral-abomination/ 16:42 < kanzure> https://www.capitalismmagazine.com/2003/11/cloning-is-a-pro-life-technology/ 16:42 < kanzure> https://www.capitalismmagazine.com/2015/12/ethics-of-human-genetic-engineering-and-cloning/ 16:42 < kanzure> https://www.capitalismmagazine.com/2003/01/human-cloning-raelians-vs-reality/ 16:42 < kanzure> https://www.capitalismmagazine.com/2002/04/cloning-in-a-free-society/ 16:42 < kanzure> https://www.capitalismmagazine.com/2019/07/the-federal-death-agency-fda/ 16:46 < kanzure> "The immorality of the FDA lies in its forbidding individual judgment. The FDA exists solely to arrest anyone who acts without permission. The FDA does not exist to provide expert opinion on medical substances and practices: private, non-governmental voluntary certification does that. What the FDA adds is the power to arrest and imprison those who dare to disagree with its medical opinions." 16:47 < kanzure> "And that takes us to the deepest point. The necessary result of throttling private judgments is: mass death. I don't mean just the deaths of those millions of diseased individuals who cannot get the life-saving drugs. Much worse is the fact that outlawing private judgment means a drastically shorter life-span for every one of us. Let me try to concretize the extent of this tragedy. If ... 16:47 < kanzure> ...America had continued through the 20th century the nearly laissez-faire system of the 19th, it's a good bet that Ayn Rand would be alive today at age 113, and would still be in good health. It is quite likely that, had we continued with almost-full capitalism, then the Millennials would have a lifespan of 200 years, or longer. The reason that sounds like fantasy is that the statism that has ... 16:47 < kanzure> ...hamstrung America for so long has lowered our expectations of progress." 16:48 < kanzure> "So why has U.S. life expectancy gone only to 78.7 in the 97 years since it hit 60? Why isn't life expectancy now over 100? In fact, since knowledge builds on knowledge and wealth builds on wealth, the rate of increase should have been accelerating! You might think that there's some inherent limit on the span of a human life. I don't think there is, and neither do lots of people better ... 16:48 < kanzure> ...informed than I. Especially not when there is the ability to re-program our DNA. The path to genetic cures and radical life extension begins with the abolition of that Servant of Death: the FDA." 17:26 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b00::3] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:39 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b00::3] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:22 -!- juri_ [~juri@178.63.35.222] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:22 -!- juri_ [~juri@178.63.35.222] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:30 < kanzure> .wik interspecific pregnancy 18:30 < EmmyNoether> "Interspecific pregnancy (literally pregnancy between species, also called interspecies pregnancy or xenopregnancy) is the pregnancy involving an embryo or fetus belonging to another species than the carrier." - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interspecific_pregnancy 19:40 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:19 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b00::3] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:22 -!- yashgaroth_ [~ffffffff@cpe-76-176-31-235.san.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:25 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffffff@2606:6000:ca84:b300:597:d434:ef7:c39e] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:31 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b00::3] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:33 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b00::3] has quit [Excess Flood] 20:34 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b00::3] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:55 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b00::3] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:56 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b00::3] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:24 < lsneff> Surprisingly bad essay published in aeon: https://aeon.co/essays/your-brain-does-not-process-information-and-it-is-not-a-computer 21:25 < lsneff> The author believes that the brain does not process information 21:40 -!- yashgaroth_ [~ffffffff@cpe-76-176-31-235.san.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:40 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b00::3] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 21:42 < jrayhawk> you see, the brain is just metaphor all the way down 21:48 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b00::3] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:52 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b00::3] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 21:53 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b00::3] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:02 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b00::3] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:09 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:11 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b00::3] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:34 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b00::3] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 22:35 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b00::3] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:49 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:04 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 23:08 < fenn> the brain is a social construct 23:18 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:39 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.6] --- Log closed Sat Nov 30 00:00:23 2019