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14:44 < fenn> everyone loves a good rapid scheduled disassembly:
14:44 < fenn> .title http://youtu.be/06svtpboEJs
14:44 < EmmyNoether> Highlights from SpaceX in-flight abort test of Crew Dragon spacecraft.  Stock Footage - YouTube
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17:52 < lsneff> Can't wait for them to do that with starship and superheavy...
17:52 < lsneff> You thought that explosion was impressive, just wait
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17:53 < fenn> probably won't do that on purpose again
17:54 < fenn> i won't be surprised if a few starship/superheavies blow up tho
18:03 < maaku> fenn: well they want starship to carry people, so they'll probably  have to do the same sort of test at some point
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18:23 < darsie> What can SS do in an emergency? Land propulsively somewhere?
18:25 < maaku> I don't know what they are actually thinking about doing
18:25 < maaku> .title https://ai.googleblog.com/2020/01/reformer-efficient-transformer.html
18:25 < EmmyNoether> Google AI Blog: Reformer: The Efficient Transformer
18:25 < maaku> "Today, we introduce the Reformer, a Transformer model designed to handle context windows of up to 1 million words, all on a single accelerator and using only 16GB of memory. It combines two crucial techniques to solve the problems of attention and memory allocation that limit Transformer's application to long context windows. Reformer uses locality-sensitive-hashing (LSH) to reduce the complexity of attending over
18:25 < maaku>  long sequences and reversible residual layers to more efficiently use the memory available."
18:26 < maaku> Things are moving fast enough in connectionist AI it is getting really hard to stay up to date.
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18:44 < docl> maaku: ah, I was assuming gold tends to be homogenously mixed into an alloy. but if it's commonly available in differentiated form in/on asteroids, the case for a mars colony doesn't benefit from that.
18:45 < maaku> there are advantages to working on Mars: an atmosphere, however tenuous, and gravity both make engineering much easier
18:45 < docl> although, the fact that meteors crash at slower speeds due to the atmosphere may make it more practical to pick them up...
18:46 < maaku> and the atmosphere causes meteorites to be slowed down enough to survive impact (unlike the moon), and lack of tectonics or water cycle means they survive on the surface
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18:46 < maaku> so there should be droves of precious meteoritic material that you just drive around and pick up
18:47 < maaku> the fact that one of the rovers we sent just happened to drive by a big asteroid fragement in its landing zone is testiment to that
18:48 < maaku> .title https://www.space.com/26533-curiosity-mars-rover-meteorite-photos.html
18:48 < EmmyNoether> Huge Meteorite on Mars Discovered by NASA's Curiosity Rover | Space
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18:49 < docl> intriguing!
18:50 < maaku> I mean the amount of material is nothing compared to the belt. But if we're talking about seeding/bootstrapping a technological civilization, there's enough resources to get stuff started
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19:46 < kanzure> are there any city vs asteroid impact simulators?
19:46 < fenn> nukemap is close enough
19:46 < kanzure> like pick a mass and shape and trajectory, show graphical mayhem
19:47 < fenn> https://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/
19:47 < fenn> there are supercomputer simulations that model all the fluids, but nothing that runs on a PC that i can recall
19:49 < fenn> https://impact.ese.ic.ac.uk/ImpactEarth/
19:51 < fenn> you can plug some values in there and get an energy value to plug into nukemap
19:52 < kanzure> that's a neat tool but to get the point across you need to render buildings getting vaporized and blowing away
19:52 < fenn> http://killerasteroids.org/interactives/impact/index.php
19:53 < kanzure> thankfully there are severely unusually well-curated maps of manhattan
19:53 < kanzure> in 3d
19:53 < kanzure> s/severely/several
19:53 < fenn> there are many TV shows and several movies that illustrate manhattan getting blown away
19:55 < kanzure> i think the user needs to be able to configure different masses and size ("okay how about just a schoolbus this time") and realize what the consequences are
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19:55 < kanzure> (for asteroids)
19:56 < fenn> apparently that's what the last link i posted does, but i can't get it to work
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20:30 < lsneff> darsie: I think the starship could probably boost free and land propulsively in the water if necessary.
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21:14 < kanzure> https://github.com/petertodd/python-bitcoinlib/pull/227/commits/df646addf2d5f924dfab4585b77ef1ec09bf5e16
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22:22 < lsneff> .wik non-orientable wormholes
22:22 < EmmyNoether> HTTPError: HTTP Error 404: Not Found (wik:99)
22:23 < lsneff> Interesting
22:25 < lsneff> "In wormhole theory, a non-orientable wormhole is a wormhole connection that appears to reverse the chirality of anything passed through it."
22:26 < lsneff> Basically, a topology that converted matter to antimatter and vice versa
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