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-!- Urchin [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:38 -!- shawwwn [uid6132@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wupmpvlfzgtgwkzg] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:42 -!- Urchin [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:48 -!- bsm1175321 [~mcelrath@2601:196:4902:25b0:3dcd:ab74:4db:7a78] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:48 -!- bsm1175321 [~mcelrath@2601:196:4902:25b0:3dcd:ab74:4db:7a78] has quit [Client Quit] 17:51 < maaku> The fact that there are people at NASA with the title 'Astronaut' who are going around giving the PR speeches while having never flown in space precisely sums up everything that is wrong with NASA in a nutshell. 17:54 -!- Urchin [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:04 < lsneff> He seemed like a nice guy, but I do agree with you. 18:05 < lsneff> He did go through a lot of training, so I think he has some right to fame, but yes, he hasn't been over the karmin line, so I wouldn't call him an astronaut . 18:06 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to make powerpoint presentations about going to space rather than actually exploring space... 20:24 -!- Urchin [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:25 < fenn> with the reversion to the meatball logo NASA decided to become a nostalgia infused jobs program instead of an inspiration for optimism about the future 20:29 -!- mrdata- [~mrdata@unaffiliated/mrdata] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:30 -!- mrdata- [~mrdata@unaffiliated/mrdata] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:32 -!- darsie [~kvirc@84-114-73-160.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:41 < lsneff> Found nasa's new logo... https://res.cloudinary.com/startrekdesignproject-com/image/upload/c_lpad,w_600,h_600/v1556131567/StarfleetCommand2250s.png 20:41 < lsneff> All humor aside, NASA does definitely need a new logo. 20:42 < lsneff> I kind of liked the worm logo. Seemed very retrofuturism, which I'm personally into. 20:52 -!- Codaraxis_ [~Codaraxis@175.sub-174-195-149.myvzw.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:53 < maaku> books have literally been written about the NASA worm logo 20:53 < maaku> It is iconic, future-focused design 20:56 < maaku> filling out a YC app is a good exercise 20:56 < maaku> actually following through with YC, less so 20:57 < maaku> reading "The Art of the Start" is also recommended 20:57 < lsneff> It seems very reminiscent to college applications. 20:57 < lsneff> I'll add that to my reading list 20:59 < lsneff> I suppose I could fill out an app on the nanocad project, and simply not follow through if it's selected. 21:02 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffffff@2607:fb90:4a2c:7e67:85a5:a3d5:cc5a:af87] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:03 < fenn> the star in the middle of the starfleet logo always irked me 21:03 < fenn> the worm logo was not "retrofuturism" 21:04 < lsneff> It wasn't at the time. It is now. 21:04 < fenn> bah 21:06 < fenn> http://fennetic.net/irc/CN_train_goldenrod.jpg 21:12 -!- Urchin [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:13 -!- TC [~talinck@98.29.27.253] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:14 -!- TC is now known as Guest22743 21:14 -!- Urchin [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:17 -!- hehelleshin [~talinck@98.29.27.253] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 21:18 < kanzure> "Learning polygenic scores for human blood cell traits" https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.02.17.952788v1 21:19 < kanzure> "The trojan message attack on pay-to-pubkeyhash protocol of bitcoin" https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-981-15-3278-8_13 21:20 < kanzure> 15:54 < sipa> ok, it's a 2^128 attack using the collision on the sighash function 21:20 < kanzure> 15:54 < sipa> which they consider an attack because they believe Bitcoin aims at a 256 security level (??) 21:20 < kanzure> 15:59 < sipa> well it's easy to fork the network (arguably its most important function) with a collision attack on SHA256 21:32 -!- mrdata- [~mrdata@unaffiliated/mrdata] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:44 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@unaffiliated/malvolio] has quit [Quit: nuff lars] 21:52 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 21:55 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:14 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@unaffiliated/malvolio] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:15 -!- Urchin [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:17 -!- shawwwn [uid6132@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wupmpvlfzgtgwkzg] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 22:28 -!- Urchin [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:54 -!- faceface_ [~faceface@unaffiliated/faceface] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:19 -!- Codaraxis_ [~Codaraxis@ip68-5-175-208.oc.oc.cox.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:28 < mrdata> 'easy' heh 23:31 -!- Urchin [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:44 -!- Urchin [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has joined ##hplusroadmap --- Log closed Wed Feb 19 00:00:45 2020