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00:32 < archels_> Our lead time is a bit longer than normal due to the  Coronavirus.
00:32 < archels_> 2 Days more needed for bare PCB job.
00:32 < archels_> 5 Days more needed for assembly job.
00:32 < archels_> such pathos in my spam
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07:35 < Jenda`_> archels_: which manufacturer? JLC has stopped assembly completely and we are starting to get a bit nervous as we may need some boards in near future
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08:20 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=71b46c3f Pratyush Mishra: Fix Zexe reference >> 
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08:20 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=a9d492b2 Michael Folkson: Add Christian Q and A transcript >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/transcripts/blockstream-webinars/2019-09-04-christian-decker-c-lightning-questions/
08:20 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=071d072b Bryan Bishop: Merge pull request #72 from Pratyush/patch-1 >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/
08:20 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=f1104358 Bryan Bishop: Merge pull request #73 from kobigurk/master >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/
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08:24 < kanzure> lsneff: CSG wasn't an issue of speed.....
08:24 < kanzure> lsneff: i spent some time making my own implementation of a geometric modeling kernel called "lolcad" but it turns out to be a tough problem and people get PhDs for making one (wtf)
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08:25 < kanzure> lsneff: when i was investigating opencascade (which is what freecad uses) here are my notes http://diyhpl.us/wiki/cad/opencascade/
08:28 < juri_> kanzure: hi there. i maintain a CSG engine, but am rubbish for everything else that happens around here. :)
08:31 < juri_> ... where is my PHD? ;D
08:40 < lsneff> kanzure: Rendering a CSG tree is an issue of speed.
08:41 < lsneff> You either have to extract an isosurface or sphere-trace it.
08:43 < kanzure> what, implicitcad?
08:43 < kanzure> i forget which one you were doing
08:43 < kanzure> you seem crazy enough to be the type to use implicitcad
08:44 < kanzure> lsneff: with CSG issue is polyhedral resolution. NURBS curves better for high-definition rendering and high-definition features. although i'm ready to give up on this point, the universe doesn't seem to agree with me.
08:44 < kanzure> https://medium.com/@brucefenton/a-cypherpunk-solution-for-mass-identity-theft-8b5907b7d93b
08:44 < kanzure> hint: governments should generally be discouraged from keeping databases about their populaces
08:46 < kanzure> ah here we go http://www.lifewithalacrity.com/2016/04/the-path-to-self-soverereign-identity.html
08:52 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/nanographs/status/1230190395776045057
08:52 < saxo> So is anyone looking to get a Focused Ion Beam? I'm trying to help a friend sell one of his systems. It's a Micrion 2500 with 1 internal gas injector and 4 more manifolds for additional chemistries. The system is fully functional, and comes with full schematics and service docs. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ERKDiqCUcAA3baU.jpg https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ERKDl5gUEAIkOOj.jpg (@nanographs)
08:54 < lsneff> https://ntopology.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/nTop-Modeling-Tech-WhitePaper-2.pdf
08:54 < lsneff> Rendering CSGs with a lot of detail can certainly be computationally expensive
08:55 < lsneff> Though I think the CSGs themselves can have effectively unlimited detail.
09:02 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=6453a7c1 Bryan Bishop: areas of 'accelerated evolution' >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/genetic-modifications/
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09:31 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=6517a270 Bryan Bishop: transcript: RSA modulus generation >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/transcripts/stanford-blockchain-conference/2020/scalable-rsa-modulus-generation/
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09:31 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=4579a421 Bryan Bishop: more words >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/transcripts/stanford-blockchain-conference/2020/scalable-rsa-modulus-generation/
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09:32 < kanzure> https://diyhpl.us/wiki/transcripts/stanford-blockchain-conference/2020/scalable-rsa-modulus-generation/
09:54 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=872173fd Bryan Bishop: transcript: hardware-accelerated RSA >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/transcripts/stanford-blockchain-conference/2020/hardware-accelerated-rsa/
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09:54 < kanzure> https://diyhpl.us/wiki/transcripts/stanford-blockchain-conference/2020/hardware-accelerated-rsa/
09:56 < kanzure> which brain region should be zapped to disable procrastination? https://twitter.com/peterktodd/status/1230541084863889409
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10:34 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=e178aeb7 Bryan Bishop: transcript: transparent SNARKs >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/transcripts/stanford-blockchain-conference/2020/transparent-snarks-from-dark-compilers/
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11:11 < jrayhawk> procrastination is a strategy for upregulating catecholamines in order to focus
11:14 < jrayhawk> there are meta-strategies for amortizing that stimulus https://www.beeminder.com/
11:18 < superkuh> I suppose you just want to increase incentive salience so you'd zap the mesolimbic dopaminergic populations, and things that project to the VTA.
11:22 < jrayhawk> "zapping procrastination" is somewhat like "defeating sleep" or "destroying stillness"; it is a failure of framing that results in fighting the very thing that enables non-default non-boring states to exist at all.
11:22 < superkuh> Yeah, I don't think anyone was being very serious here. Myself included.
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11:28 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=e6c8dbb2 Bryan Bishop: transcript: block rewards >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/transcripts/stanford-blockchain-conference/2020/block-rewards/
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11:33 < kanzure> https://www.jango.bio/press-releases/2020/2/jangobio-creating-organoids-for-complete-hormone-restoration
11:34 < kanzure> you can eliminate sleep (just not in a healthy way) not sure what the issue is
11:40 < nsh> .wik catecholamines
11:40 < saxo> "A catecholamine (/ˌkætəˈkoʊləmiːn/; abbreviated CA) is a monoamine neurotransmitter, an organic compound that has a catechol (benzene with two hydroxyl side groups next to each other) and a side-chain amine. /  Catechol can be either a free molecule or a substituent [...]" - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catecholamines
11:40 < nsh> interesting
11:56 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=4db84143 Bryan Bishop: transcript: on-chain lending >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/transcripts/stanford-blockchain-conference/2020/competitive-equilibria-staking-lending/
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12:22 < nmz787> kanzure: that FIB is $20k
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13:49 < kanzure> phi29 polymerase for XNA synthesis https://discovery.ucl.ac.uk/id/eprint/10072479/1/Sampling%20the%20Functional%20Neighbourhood%20of%20Phi29%20DNA%20Polymerase%20for%20XNA%20Synthesis%20E%20copy.pdf
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14:25 < fenn> lsneff, juri_: the nTopology whitepaper does a great job of explaining why modern cad systems are a pain, and really sells me on the whole implicit/f-rep concept
14:26 < fenn> "modern"
14:28 < fenn> the knowledge that f-rep kernels are useful for performing this sort of operation had always gone unmentioned in previous articles that i had read:  https://ntopology.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/lightweight-manifold-part.jpg
14:46 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=312a6cfd Bryan Bishop: transcript: beyond 51% attacks >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/transcripts/stanford-blockchain-conference/2020/beyond-hashrate-majority-attacks/
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16:57 < lsneff> I feel like a sketch operation (essentially the same as sketches in solidworks/autocad/etc) for an implicit surface would be very useful. I could be wrong, but it doesn't look like nTopology has that.
16:57 < kanzure> https://diyhpl.us/wiki/transcripts/stanford-blockchain-conference/2020/decentralized-oracles-tls/
17:00 < fenn> you'll have to explain your sketch operation in more detail
17:00 < fenn> ntopo can do 2d objects
17:01 < kanzure> huh this thing doesn't implement HTTPS POST just HTTPS GET inclusion proofs.
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17:09 < lsneff> fenn: essentially, drawing out a shape in 2d with dimensions and whatnot, and then extruding/revolving/etc it into 3d space.
17:09 < lsneff> It's a separate mode of most cad software
17:11 < lsneff> Oh, most importantly, you can start a sketch on any flat face of any 3d object in the model.
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17:13 < lsneff> Obviously, "faces" are complicated when considering implicts.
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17:32 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=b1245c2b Bryan Bishop: transcript: mixicles >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/transcripts/stanford-blockchain-conference/2020/mixicles/
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18:08 < fenn> sounds more like a UI feature than a geometry kernel feature
18:09 < lsneff> Yes, but knowing where the faces are would be complicated for implicts, no?
18:11 < fenn> "the bioreactor breaks down human waste into salts and methane gas; the latter is used to fuel the growth of a protein-rich “microbial goo” that's similar in consistency to Vegemite." https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S221455241730041X
18:11 < fenn> .title
18:11 < saxo> Coupling of anaerobic waste treatment to produce protein- and lipid-rich bacterial biomass - ScienceDirect
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23:26 < nmz787> .wik decoy effect
23:27 < nmz787> fenn: I'm guessing this has something to do with the Rigol software-locked upgrades, but maybe not... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decoy_effect
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