--- Log opened Sat Feb 22 00:00:00 2020
00:07 < archels_> the OpenSCAD built-in language is pretty bad; typically you want to generate this code from... other code
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01:38 < juri_> nmz787: github. :)
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06:05 < lsneff> archels_: it's turtles all the way down
06:06 < Urchin> archels_: afaik, that's what people do
06:07 < Urchin> archels_: iirc, there's a Clojure library for it
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07:10 < nmz787> juri_: what version of GHC are you using, I was able to install all dependencies with no visble errors, but during cabal install
07:10 < nmz787> juri_: I get "ghc: unrecognised flag: -Wcompat
07:11 < nmz787> juri_: https://pastebin.com/a91Z72NJ
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07:26 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=57ab2118 Tony Jin: Fix typos in `urkel-trees.mdwn` >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/transcripts/stanford-blockchain-conference/2019/urkel-trees/
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07:26 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=48d1c4a0 Bryan Bishop: Merge pull request #76 from nijynot/patch-1 >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/
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07:29 < kanzure> fltrz: describe your DNA tape memory scheme.
07:30 < kanzure> oh nevermind.
07:31 < kanzure> fltrz: i think your DNA data storage scheme is overly complicated? search the logs for methylation scarring and other photo-induced data storage mechanisms.
07:33 < kanzure> i think we had a photobleaching method at one point
07:46 < adlai> lsneff: joking aside, schools often contain a lot of people who need education, whereas my impression from those i've judged as intelligent is that they seek to carve new paths through the world; naturally, there is overlap, because schools are part of the world.
07:48 < adlai> however, i've been continually surprised by the prevalence of folks who seem to actively suffer from being in a school. this is quite bizarre to me, since although i am not fond of the bureaucratic aspects, i've found most of the academic settings encountered in my life to be at the very least tolerable, if not absolutely wonderful
07:50 < adlai> maybe i just had parts of my behavioral phenotype carved into a school-guage calibre at a young age.
07:54 < lsneff> adlai: As a student right now, I sometimes actively suffer from being in a school. Less now, but often in the past, I've found myself forced to do "busy work" that served only to drain the life-force from me.
07:55 < lsneff> I try to go my own path these days.
07:56 < adlai> lots of schools inadvertently teach social engineering instead of actual
07:56 < kanzure> yawn
07:56 < kanzure> get back to work
07:56 < adlai> who, me?
07:57  * adlai is busy forgetting all his marketable skills, so he can be a properly useless passenger on commercial spaceflights
07:58 < adlai> at least, this is what i've learned from commercial airliners: the best passengers are the absolutely useless ones who only know how to obey commands.
07:58 < kanzure> should i /part from joinmarket given the recent news
07:58 < kanzure> or am i safu
07:58  * adlai is still catching up on logs, is there a specific item on which i should focus?
07:59 < kanzure> department of justice vs coin mixer software developer and opeator
07:59 < kanzure> operator.
08:01 < adlai> eheh. "As your attorney," i'd be much more worried as one of the people who ran the software without having ever joined the irc channel
08:02 < lsneff> The best students are the ones who learn to ask questions rather than learn to figure out things by themselves.
08:05 < adlai> ( in case you're not familiar with the quote: it's one of the oft-repeated phrases in _Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas_ https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120669/quotes )
08:06 < fltrz> kanzure, yeah I remember proposing bistable DNA with fluorophores before...
08:06 < fltrz> not sure how to read and write reversibly methylation scarring?
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08:08 < adlai> kanzure: i recall that, during one of the times when we spoke briefly after my talk in Milan, you mentioned having an unresolved court case, and that you had notarized certain documents pertaining to this case. if you are truly concerned about legal reprecussions of merely studying joinmarket, consider the benefits of notarizing what you study.
08:10 < adlai> if this information helps you remember the exact conversation in question... i believe we stood about ten meters away from the giant slab of parmesan that apparently seemed a sufficient dose of lunch for ~300 people
08:11 < adlai> incidentally, i'm quite curious what note[s] you took about me, kanzure , and would be glad to read the relevant line from your file.
08:15 < lsneff> Aren't we all...
08:18  * adlai imagines it's along the lines of: "adlai: autodidact common lisp programmer; displays surprising inability to get hired; directly responsible for reduction of minimal required technical background for understanding talk at technical conference; refuses to wear duncecap despite being unable to prove pons asinorum"
08:19 < adlai> ah, and there might also be a word or two about all those scorched receptors near the medulla
08:20 < adlai> how about, "surprisingly insensitive to own privacy despite history of software contributions"
08:20 < adlai> kanzure: and one last question to round out this barrage: what does your file say about kanzure ?
08:43 < lsneff> .title: https://www.futuretimeline.net/forum/topic/21667-the-anteacceleratio-era/?p=273191
08:45 < lsneff> .title
08:45 < saxo> The Anteacceleratio Era - Science & Technology of the Future - FutureTimeline.forum
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09:09 < nmz787> fltrz: remember the wavelength of light is MUCH larger than the scale of the dimers/lesions you're talking about... this will reduce your storage density
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10:04 < juri_> nmz787: 8.6.5
10:04 < juri_> nmz787: just pull the -Werror from the implicit.cabal file.
11:04 < fltrz> nmz787, yes, of course, thats why the UVC is used to erase a whole sector or stretch of dimers, and locally caged photolyases in a cage much smaller than wavelength of light is used to set the bits with blue light
11:04 < fltrz> the blue/violet light does not restore the pyrimidine dimers, but the photolyases do, photolyases are much smaller than the wavelength of light
11:05 < fltrz> i.e. pyrimidine dimer = 0, normal pyrimidines = 1
11:08 < fltrz> i.e. the high resolution write head can only turn a 0 into a 1, but not a 1 into a 0, the low resolution reset (UV-C) can reset a whole stretch of 1 to 0, aafter which the high resolution write head can be used to write on the erased stretch
11:09 < fltrz> scale wavelength of UV-C: normal pyrimidines + UV-C -> pyrimidine dimers
11:10 < fltrz> scale photolyase cage: pyrimidine dimer + blue/violet light (VIS) + photolyase -> normal pyrimidine + photolyase
11:11 < fltrz> so photolyase cage is the high resolution write head, and UV-C is the low resolution erase head
11:12 < fltrz> read head is open question, electric nanopore? ramanscattering on the same photolyases?  ...
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13:34 < kanzure> .tw https://mobile.twitter.com/kanzure/status/1231012879727382528
13:34 < saxo> That's a wrap for @CBRStanford Stanford Blockchain Conference 2020 #SBC. // You can find all the transcripts here: / https://diyhpl.us/wiki/transcripts/stanford-blockchain-conference/2020/ // total: 83,964 words. (@kanzure)
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