--- Log opened Tue Mar 31 00:00:38 2020 00:32 -!- Codaraxis [~Codaraxis@ip68-5-175-208.oc.oc.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:38 -!- Human_G33k [~HumanG33k@62.147.242.8] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:41 -!- HumanG33k [~HumanG33k@62.147.242.8] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:46 -!- darsie [~kvirc@84-114-73-160.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:57 -!- hehelleshin [~talinck@98.29.27.253] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:01 -!- helleshin [~talinck@98.29.27.253] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:54 -!- jbjllk [~~gotjuped@d50-98-208-107.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: jbjllk] 03:10 -!- jtimon [~quassel@206.160.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:03 < nmz787> .tell maaku do you know japanese? (I thought so)... if so, do you know any easy way to translate a PDF from Japanese to English? I tried importing it into Google Docs then translating, but it's coming out pretty weird and the formatting is all messed up too 04:03 < saxo> (.to) 04:15 < nmz787> anyone really 04:15 < nmz787> seems that holding my phone up to my screen, while running google translate in camera mode works a little better 04:15 < nmz787> I was at least able to skim this datasheet 05:58 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:03 -!- Urchin [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:17 -!- Urchin [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:43 < juri_> nmz787: I have some basic japanese, but not at even an A2 level yet. 06:59 < kanzure> hydroxychloroquine emergency use authorization https://www.fda.gov/media/136534/download (pdf) 07:01 < superkuh> In the Pipeline had a write-up on the latest paper, https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2020/03/29/more-on-cloroquine-azithromycin-and-on-dr-raoult 07:53 < mrdata> does hydroxychloroquine even work? 07:55 < mrdata> but what i'd really like to know is, does it carry zinc into the cell? and if so, is it the best thing to do that? 07:56 < mrdata> meanwhile, https://www.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/fppltz/coronavirus_could_be_a_chimera_of_two_different/ 08:00 -!- superjen96 [~jenelizab@85.203.46.129] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:00 -!- jenelizabeth [~jenelizab@cpc155793-brmb11-2-0-cust474.1-3.cable.virginm.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:05 -!- superjen96 [~jenelizab@85.203.34.50] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:09 -!- jenelizabeth [~jenelizab@cpc155793-brmb11-2-0-cust474.1-3.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:24 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:46 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffffff@172.58.19.12] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:58 -!- spaceangel [~spaceange@ip-89-177-23-46.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:59 < fenn> this authorization letter feels very begrudging 10:59 < fenn> the bummer is that hydroxychloroquine is best used as a prophylactic, but we will never get it unless hospitalized, and by that time it's probably too late 11:00 < fenn> what's up with "50 kg or more" 11:03 -!- adamsky [~adamsky3@178235181086.dynamic-4-waw-k-4-1-0.vectranet.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:16 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:32 -!- adamsky [~adamsky3@178235181086.dynamic-4-waw-k-4-1-0.vectranet.pl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:43 -!- TC [~talinck@98.29.27.253] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:43 -!- TC is now known as Guest84198 11:47 -!- hehelleshin [~talinck@98.29.27.253] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 12:14 < nmz787> juri_: A2 meaning? 12:14 < nmz787> like US second grade? 12:37 < fenn> macroscopic solutions http://flickr.com/photos/107963674@N07/albums 12:40 < TMA> nmz787: A2 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_European_Framework_of_Reference_for_Languages 13:03 -!- CryptoDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uypapkgxojhirawg] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:05 -!- spaceangel [~spaceange@ip-89-177-23-46.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:12 < galambo> are you guys bullish about bitcoin? 14:13 -!- jbjllk [~~gotjuped@d50-98-209-146.bchsia.telus.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:51 < lsneff> Depends on the person. 14:55 -!- Alchemical [~al@unaffiliated/alchemical] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:56 < jrayhawk> Bitcoin's fundamentals are better today than they have ever been in its entire history. 14:57 -!- Alchemical [~al@unaffiliated/alchemical] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:57 < jbjllk> have you looked at kodachi 15:07 < jrayhawk> Jihan got demonopolized in 2017/2018, segwit and layer 2 transaction routing (scalability, privacy) are continuously getting more widely deployed, high-level bad actors have gotten so numerous that they spend more time competing with eachother than with honest agents, full chain verification can be done with at most $100 worth of hardware literally anywhere on the surface of the Earth, public 15:07 < jrayhawk> oversight keeps increasing, and it has almost an order of magnitude better mutability- and censorship-resistance, which is its raison d'etre, than every other competing system. 15:07 < galambo> jrayhawk, I agree 15:08 < jbjllk> increase bit coin security 15:15 -!- Urchin [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:17 -!- darsie [~kvirc@84-114-73-160.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:37 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:52 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:04 < juri_> nmz787: europe has a 6 stage grading system. A, B, and C, 1 and 2 grade in each. so, i'm a beginner, but can fumble my way around the language. the B levels are what it takes to be employed speaking/writing a language, and the C levels are native plus, for things like writing papers, and speaches. 17:14 -!- jenelizabeth [~jenelizab@185.92.25.103] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:17 -!- superjen96 [~jenelizab@85.203.34.50] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:27 < fltrz> did you guys read about the correlation between BCG vaccine and outbreak severity across nations? https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.24.20042937v1 17:28 < galambo> well I mean bcg vaccine tends to be used in countries which have tb. countries that have tb tend to be poorer. poorer countries cant really test for covid19 17:29 < galambo> as much as richer countries do 17:29 < fltrz> the BCG World Atlas of BCG vaccinations programs across the world, over different times 17:29 < fenn> .g bcg vaccine 17:29 < saxo> https://www.cdc.gov/tb/publications/factsheets/prevention/bcg.htm 17:29 < fltrz> galambo, heh, USA has no universal BCG program, netherlands too, not exactly poor 17:29 < fltrz> http://bcgatlas.org/ 17:30 < fltrz> galambo, that was my first thought too, but then it would correlate just as well with other health programs... 17:31 < fltrz> galambo, its the one *without BCG programs* that seem to be hit harder 17:32 < fenn> what is it 17:32 < fltrz> fenn, what is what? 17:32 < fenn> what are the ingredients of the BCG vaccine? 17:33 < fenn> just mycobacterium bovis? 17:33 < galambo> fltrz, poor countries tend to underreport 17:34 < galambo> fltrz, for example egypt exported lots of cases while officially only having tens of cases in the whole country at the time 17:34 < fenn> yeah this sounds like a statistics snafu 17:35 < galambo> tb is a mycobacterium. covid19 is a virus. they are completely different entities 17:36 < fltrz> can bats carry the mycobacterium? host in host? 17:37 < fltrz> perhaps people are infecting each other with mycobacterium associated covid 10 17:37 < fenn> go stand in the corner 17:37 < fltrz> ok 17:37 < fenn> now bang your head against the wall repeatedly 17:37 < fltrz> but if its snafu, why not snafu with other programs?\ 17:38 < fenn> the malaria correlation made a lot more sense, and just looking at the map you can see the correlation 17:39 < fenn> apparently BCG is given literally everywhere except USA, EU and Australia 17:39 * fltrz 's head falls off 17:40 < fltrz> fenn, it *was* given in EU I think 17:40 < fenn> so what 17:40 < fltrz> the other nations seem less affected than italy and greece 17:41 < fltrz> perhaps their elderly were vaccinated 17:41 < fenn> ok it was stopped quite recently in some parts of EU 17:42 < fltrz> * italy and netherlands lol 17:49 < fenn> in the paper they suggest looking at prevalence among immigrants to USA that had received BCG vaccination in their native countries 17:50 < fltrz> that may be hard if they got it as children 17:51 < fltrz> oh yea if it was univerr 17:51 < fltrz> suniversal 17:56 < fltrz> eating 250g of ground peanuts with tahini 19:18 -!- jtimon [~quassel@206.160.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 19:37 -!- hehelleshin [~talinck@98.29.27.253] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:38 -!- TC [~talinck@98.29.27.253] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:38 -!- TC is now known as Guest53140 19:40 -!- Guest84198 [~talinck@98.29.27.253] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:41 -!- hehelleshin [~talinck@98.29.27.253] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:14 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffffff@172.58.19.12] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:23 -!- Codaraxis [~Codaraxis@ip68-5-175-208.oc.oc.cox.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:57 -!- CryptoDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uypapkgxojhirawg] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 22:03 -!- jbjllk [~~gotjuped@d50-98-209-146.bchsia.telus.net] has left ##hplusroadmap ["Leaving"] 22:44 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:54 -!- Codaraxis [~Codaraxis@ip68-5-175-208.oc.oc.cox.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:55 -!- Codaraxis [~Codaraxis@ip68-5-175-208.oc.oc.cox.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:57 -!- hehelleshin [~talinck@98.29.27.253] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:01 -!- Guest53140 [~talinck@98.29.27.253] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:49 -!- hehelleshin [~talinck@98.29.27.253] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:49 -!- hehelleshin [~talinck@98.29.27.253] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:51 -!- nsh [~lol@wikipedia/nsh] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:54 -!- HEx1 [~HEx@hexwab.plus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] --- Log closed Wed Apr 01 00:00:39 2020