--- Log opened Sat May 02 00:00:10 2020 00:01 -!- juri_ [~juri@178.63.35.222] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:08 -!- juri_ [~juri@178.63.35.222] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:50 -!- mauz555 [~mauz555@2a01:e0a:56d:9090:9c09:7e12:30c0:810] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:25 -!- spaceangel [~spaceange@ip-89-177-23-46.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:48 -!- L29Ah [~L29Ah@unaffiliated/l29ah] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:34 -!- L29Ah [~L29Ah@unaffiliated/l29ah] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:45 -!- d4de [~d4de@197.47.162.164] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:21 -!- HEx1 [~HEx@hexwab.plus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:26 -!- CryptoDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lckksfzbzelzwzeq] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:32 -!- mauz555 [~mauz555@2a01:e0a:56d:9090:9c09:7e12:30c0:810] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:33 -!- mauz555_ [~mauz555@2a01:e0a:56d:9090:9c09:7e12:30c0:810] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:35 -!- mauz555_ [~mauz555@2a01:e0a:56d:9090:9c09:7e12:30c0:810] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:35 -!- mauz555 [~mauz555@2a01:e0a:56d:9090:9c09:7e12:30c0:810] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:40 -!- HEx1 [~HEx@hexwab.plus.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:55 -!- mauz555 [~mauz555@2a01:e0a:56d:9090:9c09:7e12:30c0:810] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:02 < kanzure> https://github.com/hardenedlinux/embedded-iot_profile/blob/master/docs/opentitan/opentitan-rtl-synthesis-with-yosys.md 08:48 -!- mauz555 [~mauz555@2a01:e0a:56d:9090:9c09:7e12:30c0:810] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:48 -!- mauz555 [~mauz555@2a01:e0a:56d:9090:9c09:7e12:30c0:810] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:48 -!- mauz555 [~mauz555@2a01:e0a:56d:9090:9c09:7e12:30c0:810] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:48 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffffff@172.58.19.31] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:04 * adlai has often wondered, while birdwatching during the recent quarantine, whether pigeons prefer to perch upon the antenna that fries their brain fastest 09:09 -!- ffranr [~rff@79-64-222-44.host.pobb.as13285.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:30 < archels> might it feel as heat to them? they would be attracted to that 09:31 < adlai> archels, perhaps they sense that radiation merely as thermal, although i've often read that certain migratory birds have quite a keen sense of electromagnetic fields 09:44 -!- Urchin [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:58 -!- Urchin [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:27 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:36 -!- CryptoDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lckksfzbzelzwzeq] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 11:42 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:03 < kanzure> https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/gcbrcn/im_sean_wrona_ultimate_typing_champion_releasing/ 12:09 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=286206de Michael Folkson: Add Kalle at London Bitcoin Devs >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/transcripts/london-bitcoin-devs/2020-04-29-kalle-rosenbaum-grokking-bitcoin/ 12:09 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=420a8d36 Bryan Bishop: Merge pull request #100 from michaelfolkson/add-kalle-grokking >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/ 12:13 -!- LarchOye2 [~gobitch@24.245.5.129] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:44 < kanzure> https://www.geekwire.com/2020/buying-planetary-resources-consensys-gives-away-science-asteroids-will-sell-rest/ 12:44 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/MarkFriedenbach/status/1256318061205807104 12:44 < saxo> @interplanetary Whoa, the IP is being made open source?! Well that is a silver lining. Are you putting the patents under the Defensive Patent License? (@MarkFriedenbach, in reply to tw:1256306367729594368) 12:51 < juri_> so sad. I had hopes they would succeed. I even applied there. 12:52 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/physicsmatt/status/1256244468874907654 12:52 < saxo> If you’re mad and find yourself yelling that you want someone launched into the Sun, take a moment, calm yourself, and remember that it takes a lot less Delta v to launch them out of the Solar System instead. (@physicsmatt) 12:52 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/zackkanter/status/1256487350101671938 12:52 < saxo> just watched Contact for the first time in a while and remembered that they were horrified at spending a half a trillion dollars for two intergalactic wormhole machines. that’s like a normal tuesday at the Fed now. (@zackkanter) 12:52 < kanzure> you applied to consensys? 12:52 < juri_> yepyep. a WHILE back. 12:53 < juri_> they were looking for someone a little deeper into 3d printing than i was at the time. now, i don't know anyone deeper. 13:09 -!- prometheus [~root@88.230.138.86] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:09 -!- prometheus [~root@88.230.138.86] has quit [Client Quit] 13:25 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:05 -!- raonyguimaraes [~raonyguim@109.255.83.30] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:37 -!- filipepe [uid362247@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rxuvdhfxkydwjwhs] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:06 -!- darsie [~kvirc@84-114-73-160.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:20 -!- raonyguimaraes [~raonyguim@109.255.83.30] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:39 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:48 -!- HumanG33k [~HumanG33k@62.147.242.8] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:00 < kanzure> .title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5f2gkTIJBs 16:00 < saxo> 374 wpm (402 wpm unlagged) #1 qwerty all time record on typeracer - YouTube 16:16 -!- mauz555 [~mauz555@2a01:e0a:56d:9090:9c09:7e12:30c0:810] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:31 < lsneff> What's even the point of being able to type that fast? 16:31 < lsneff> It's really cool, but basically outraces thoughts at that point 16:32 < kanzure> speak for yourself 16:44 < lsneff> Fair enough haha 16:44 -!- ffranr [~rff@79-64-222-44.host.pobb.as13285.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:09 -!- HumanG33k [~HumanG33k@62.147.242.8] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:12 < fenn> god dammit. i knew they would do this 17:16 -!- spaceangel [~spaceange@ip-89-177-23-46.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:28 < L29Ah> i'm at 420cpm and feel kinda slow 17:30 < L29Ah> > I've put tens of hours into this quote 17:47 -!- filipepe [uid362247@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rxuvdhfxkydwjwhs] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 19:32 < lsneff> Well, I can hit about 75ish wpm if I try 19:32 < lsneff> That's pretty bad in comparison haha 19:34 < kanzure> lsneff: https://10fastfingers.com/ 19:41 < lsneff> nice 131 wpm :P 19:45 < lsneff> that was a fluke haha 19:48 -!- turona [~quassel@2a01:c23:6445:3500:4ce:2ce4:1ff6:726b] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:49 -!- turona [~quassel@2a01:c22:a821:9400:3cdd:3048:2ce4:5487] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:10 < jrayhawk> 374 is burst typing speed, which is probably not really compatible with cognizance anyway. 20:24 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffffff@172.58.19.31] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:29 < lsneff> I wonder if there's some limit on the rate that a human can transfer an AST in their mind to a computer by typing 20:30 < lsneff> Like, programming, for example, is essentially just that 20:31 < lsneff> The ideal language for conveying intent might be just a serialized abstract syntax tree 20:47 -!- d4de [~d4de@197.47.162.164] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 21:05 < adlai> cf "90% of calories go to waste at every level of the food chain... eat dirt, be a creature of pure energy" 21:05 < adlai> i mean, program in lisp, save your carpal tunnel excavations for internet trolling 21:06 < adlai> little freudian slip right there 21:09 < lsneff> We should all communicate with abstract syntax trees 21:10 < adlai> #f 23:10 < lsneff> Hey, is anyone here familiar with ipfs? 23:18 < lsneff> I'm trying to figure out if it's likely to be popular in the future 23:25 < fenn> heard of it, fwiw 23:25 < fenn> freenet reloaded 23:26 < lsneff> Face value, it seems pretty cool 23:26 < lsneff> But it's still pretty early I think 23:27 < lsneff> Is freenet content addressable? 23:28 < fenn> that's the whole idea 23:28 < fenn> they went off the rails with some anonymity bullshit that made it stop working 23:28 < fenn> and then everyone who cared about anonymity started working on tor instead 23:28 < fenn> and then freenet was abandoned 23:29 < lsneff> Ah, that's a shame 23:29 < lsneff> Looking it up, it seems to have gone the way of many GNU licensed projects 23:30 -!- darsie [~kvirc@84-114-73-160.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:30 < fenn> what's that supposed to mean 23:30 < lsneff> They're just very difficult to integrate into existing systems because of the licensing 23:31 < superkuh> freenet failed because you had to have 2 other peers to get started and there was (for most of it's life) no clear way to do it. 23:31 < lsneff> And they're based on the idea of all software being open and free, which is not how the world is 23:31 < lsneff> Ah, that's interesting 23:32 < fenn> what's difficult about using a filesystem 23:32 < lsneff> Like, there was no peer discovery? 23:32 < superkuh> I think the best distributed system is just everyone hosting a static webserver. 23:32 < lsneff> Right 23:33 < lsneff> That's basically the idea behind ipfs, but you need a very minimal server to seed the network 23:33 < superkuh> So extra steps. 23:33 < fenn> the bittorrent DHT is fine, but it requires the user to actively participate. in freenet you could say "host 1GB of stuff" and it would cache and backup files that were in demand, proportional to their last access time and size 23:34 < lsneff> Yeah ipfs is really hands off honestly, just add a file to the network with one command and you're done 23:34 < fenn> a million text files is probably more valuable to society or historians than 1 blu-ray movie 23:35 < lsneff> Sure, but what does that have to do with this 23:35 < fenn> obviously we have different goals 23:35 < fenn> what are you trying to do? 23:36 < lsneff> Oh I don't have a goal here, I'm just trying to scout it out 23:36 < lsneff> I'm not using it for anything 23:36 < fenn> the way i see it, a content-addressable file system is useful for keeping content online 23:36 < fenn> a static webserver can go down at any time and take its data with it 23:36 < lsneff> I agree 23:37 < lsneff> It's good for distributing the load as well. 23:37 < fenn> if you're not hosting your own data, the policy by which data is hosted in general becomes important to you 23:37 < lsneff> As well as optimizing latency 23:38 < fenn> ideally, you'd host your own data, and twice as much of other peoples' data, and then everyone would be backed up 2x 23:39 < fenn> if your server ever goes down, gets stolen by the cops, catches on fire, etc. it would be easy to restore from the network 23:40 < lsneff> It's difficult to make people host other people's data for very long 23:41 < fenn> participation in the network is a fine incentive. the problem is that most people don't care about their data, or haven't thought through the consequences of it being deleted forever 23:42 < fenn> they think google/twitter/facebook/yahoo will take care of everythiing 23:42 < fenn> yahoo buys up companies and deletes their data all the time 23:42 -!- Azitrex [~Azitrex@unaffiliated/azitrex] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:42 < lsneff> Yes, I agree that people don't really understand that 23:43 < lsneff> There are some interesting projects in that area 23:43 < lsneff> I remember something called filecoin 23:43 < lsneff> I try to stay away from things with "coin" in the name usually haha 23:44 < fenn> it's just IPFS with payment for storage 23:44 < fenn> i hate how people say "Blockchain" instead of "a blockchain" 23:45 < lsneff> "Blockchain" is *internet scale* 23:46 < fenn> can i get that in cornflower blue 23:46 -!- ffranr [~rff@79-64-222-44.host.pobb.as13285.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:46 < lsneff> Only sold next to the IBM logo 23:48 < fenn> Sia is another distributed pay-for-storage thing 23:51 < lsneff> Personally, I'd love to see iot devices hook into some distributed storage network 23:51 < lsneff> Huge amounts of storage that's already there 23:52 < fenn> personally, i'd love for my iot devices to shut the fuck up and only talk to the local area network, using a protocol i can understand 23:52 < lsneff> Okay, that's fair 23:52 < lsneff> But you're not going to get that 23:52 < fenn> i'll just have to build everything myself then 23:52 < fenn> who's with me? there are dozens of us! 23:53 * fenn sulks 23:53 < lsneff> Well, routers can be easily hosted on an rpi 23:53 < lsneff> The only iot that's actually useful to me are my Google homes 23:58 < fenn> ah so it just records everything you say all the time and sends it straight to the cloud 23:58 < fenn> no big deal --- Log closed Sun May 03 00:00:03 2020