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01:12 < nmz787> lsneff: I helped a friend once, mostly with lasercutting thin hardwood sheets for the main structure/housing
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02:07 < nmz787> fenn: any idea why the units are messed up looking in here? http://gnusha.org/logs/2012-11-09.log
02:08 < fenn> any line in particular?
02:09 < nmz787> 19:29 for example
02:09 < nmz787> 15g/m³
02:09 < fenn> looks like 1m³ to me
02:10 < nmz787> pretty sure that should be 15 grams per cubic meter, but it appears like 15 grams per cubic milliamp (with a weird A with a hat on it)
02:11 < fenn> how are you viewing this file? looks fine in less in a terminal
02:11 < nmz787> oh, firefox
02:11 < fenn> it maybe trying to auto-guess some iso character encoding
02:11 < adlai> by 'hat' you mean carat?
02:11 < fenn> and guessing wrong
02:11 < adlai> there's another common "A with hat", that is the angstrom unit
02:11 < fenn> caret
02:12 < adlai> .wik caret
02:12 < saxo> "The caret /ˈkærɪt/ is an inverted V-shaped grapheme, sometimes extended, used in proofreading and typography to indicate that material needs to be inserted at this point in the text." - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caret
02:12 < adlai> TIL! ty
02:12 < nmz787> huh yeah you're right less looks fine
02:13 < nmz787> yeah there's a caret over the capital A
02:13 < nmz787> oh well
02:13 < fenn> you can manually set it to unicode
02:13 < fenn> its in a menu somewhere
02:13 < nmz787> anyway fenn, you should totally draw up a desert drinking-bird zeolite water well
02:14 < fenn> i have a notebook of such things
02:14 < nmz787> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5HOt0ZOcYk
02:14 < fenn> .title
02:14 < saxo> I'd Buy That for a Dollar - YouTube
02:14 < fenn> thanks, i appreciate your vote of confidence
02:15 < nmz787> sorry, I just watched two robocop movies in the past few nights and that was in there
02:15  * nmz787 was looking at desert properties last few days too
02:17 < nmz787> leaving the almost-rainforest for desert is a bit scary to think about... but it would mean I could be financially independent for a while, as long as I didn't die of thirst
02:18 < fenn> water is pretty inexpensive no matter where you are on earth
02:18 < nmz787> I saw thomasegi in another room a while ago, was gonna ask him if he ever got to playing with his zeolite
02:19 < fenn> he's making his own lead acid batteries now
02:19 < nmz787> lol
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02:24 < fenn> elon musk was recently ranting about how we waste all the pure distilled water formed inside air conditioners, and how he's maybe going to bottle it or something in the cybertruck
02:25 < fenn> or maybe make a solar powered air conditioning unit for homes
02:26 < fenn> that's mostly recycled water, if it's gathered from inside the house
02:27 < fenn> one of the things in my notebook is a laminar flow fountain full of concentrated calcium chloride solution, that would just suck moisture right out of the air
02:27 < fenn> then you run it through a reverse osmosis system to get the water out
02:28 < fenn> or maybe calcium sulfate if the chlorides are too corrosive
02:28 < nmz787> sounds a little fragile
02:28 < nmz787> the zeolite thing sounded quite robust
02:28 < fenn> i think the opposite
02:28 < nmz787> also I was thinking subterrenear living, so AC wouldn't be needed, I think
02:29 < fenn> zeolite can get coated in oil or whatever and then you have to get new zeolite
02:29 < fenn> not much to go wrong with a salt solution
02:29 < nmz787> I thought the zeolite was just a greenhouse and a solar shade, at least
02:29 < fenn> you can do the greenhouse thing with salt solution too
02:29 < nmz787> yeah but where's the oil gonna randomly come from?
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02:29 < fenn> air tools? car engine?
02:29 < nmz787> the cacl thing, needs the RO membrane
02:29 < nmz787> which can break or get clogged, I think
02:29 < fenn> can boil it in a solar cooker if you want
02:30 < fenn> RO takes less energy
02:33 < nmz787> hmm
02:33 < nmz787> dang
02:34 < nmz787> I guess if this were easy, israel and such would be all about it
02:34 < nmz787> i.e. it would be a product I could just buy
02:34 < nmz787> product/kit
02:35 < fenn> israel does large utility scale desalination already
02:35 < fenn> this would at best be a dump load for your solar panels in mid-day
02:35 < fenn> you'd never get a better value than wholesale electricity costs
02:36 < nmz787> idk, I am kinda turned off by PV panels since watching Planet of the Humans
02:37 < nmz787> I have no idea where I want to end up re living situation
02:38 < fenn> same. i think mostly i'm going to be constrained by other people complaining about what i'm doing, so it can't be wide open desert plains or in a city
02:38 < nmz787> I keep vacillating between moving to a place with a bigger garage, building out my garage here... or calling all this high tech stuff quits and moving to some off-grid back to the land lifestyle (or maybe I'd try to bring all my high tech crap along to that and see how it went)
02:39 < fenn> off-grid usually means you need more technology, not less
02:39 < nmz787> this guy in menodocino with 400 acres is looking for 3 couples to be caretakers of this forest preserve, he's 89 now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qcsWajivnI
02:40 < nmz787> .title
02:40 < saxo> 50 years off-grid: architect-maker paradise amid NorCal redwoods - YouTube
02:40 < nmz787> it was a really nice 45 minute watch
02:41 < nmz787> fenn: well lower-tech stuff and already existing tech than what I've been going after re nano/biotech stuff, at least
02:41 < adlai> israel also doesn't do much technological improvisation in its desert territories due to reserving them for military exercises
02:42 < nmz787> there's some big plots in mendocino for like $1600 an acre
02:43 < nmz787> it's also pretty dark at night as far as the dark sky maps show
02:43 < nmz787> but cali govt seems like it's not in a very appealing state to move into
02:45 < nmz787> oh well, I'm already up too late
02:45  * nmz787 sleeps
02:47 < adlai> speaking of the levant, egypt might actually be a reasonable state soon
02:48 < adlai> (israel persists in the bizarre idiocy of having a sane political system, yet repeatedly reelecting the same government)
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08:10 < kanzure> https://medium.com/@janmoritz_48488/using-the-nfc-chip-of-the-passport-to-do-proof-of-work-b77e1a5343a1
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08:19 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/thomaskipf/status/1257202816315273216
08:19 < saxo> My PhD thesis "Deep Learning with Graph-Structured Representations" is now available for download: https://hdl.handle.net/11245.1/1b63b965-24c4-4bcd-aabb-b849056fa76d -- It covers a range of emerging topics in Deep Learning: from graph neural nets (and graph convolutions) to structure discovery (objects, relations, events) https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EXJ61GzXgAE_90y.jpg (@thomaskipf)
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15:41 < heath> .title https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-05-04/scientists-create-antibody-that-defeats-coronavirus-in-lab
15:41 < saxo> Scientists Create Antibody That Defeats Coronavirus in Lab - Bloomberg
15:41 < heath> https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-020-16256-y.pdf "A human monoclonal antibody blocking SARS-CoV-2 infection"
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16:13 < lsneff> .title https://gist.github.com/mGBUfLn9/7cadffcf7c3c23b7376350165a67735f
16:13 < saxo> history.txt · GitHub
16:13 < lsneff> Someone posted that on hn
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16:30 < lsneff> .title https://public-inbox.org/git/CAOAHyQwyXC1Z3v7BZAC+Bq6JBaM7FvBenA-1fcqeDV==apdWDg@mail.gmail.com/T/#u
16:30 < saxo> Rename offensive terminology (master)
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16:36 < juri_> yay. I just sliced my first "looks like that will print" object using my slicer. :)
17:02 < lsneff> Yay!
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