--- Log opened Fri May 15 00:00:21 2020 00:08 -!- darsie [~kvirc@84-114-73-160.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:28 -!- ffranr [~ffranr@79-65-235-120.host.pobb.as13285.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:29 -!- ffranr [~ffranr@79-64-221-230.host.pobb.as13285.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:04 < archels> https://www.theregister.co.uk/2020/05/13/uk_archer_supercomputer_cyberattack/ 06:11 -!- Human_G33k [~HumanG33k@62.147.242.8] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:59 -!- urkk [~urkk@173.142.239.188.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:11 -!- HumanG33k [~HumanG33k@62.147.242.8] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:10 -!- Human_G33k [~HumanG33k@62.147.242.8] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:13 -!- HumanG33k [~HumanG33k@62.147.242.8] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 08:34 -!- ffranr_ [~ffranr@79-65-233-73.host.pobb.as13285.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:34 -!- ffranr [~ffranr@79-64-221-230.host.pobb.as13285.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:34 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 08:49 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:49 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffffff@172.58.19.89] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:14 < fenn> why isn't there a vaccine against toxoplasma? 09:15 -!- chico [~chico@2a02:2121:2c7:ea9a:9592:a81c:3bdc:3660] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:57 -!- Urchin [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:59 -!- chico [~chico@2a02:2121:2c7:ea9a:9592:a81c:3bdc:3660] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:12 < yashgaroth> intracellular parasites are difficult to vaccine against; if there ain't a vaccine for malaria, there sure ain't gonna be one for toxo when it has only marginal negative effects in humans 10:30 -!- Urchin [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:30 -!- Urchin [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:32 -!- CryptoDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vutmcvfmldgxcabr] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:45 -!- ffranr__ [~ffranr@79-65-233-73.host.pobb.as13285.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:48 -!- ffranr_ [~ffranr@79-65-233-73.host.pobb.as13285.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:06 < kanzure> when i was a kid, all i wanted to do when i grew up was be an intracellular parasite 11:16 < L29Ah> when i was a kid, all i wanted to do when i grew up was be an interstellar parasite 11:21 < kanzure> how's that working out for you? 11:22 < kanzure> yashgaroth: can't you do a bacteriophage therapy of some kind? 11:29 < fenn> humans seroconvert to toxoplasma and apparently it prevents infection 11:30 < fenn> so i'd think a vaccine would work 11:30 < fenn> i wonder about mental illness caused by toxoplasma 12:27 < nsh> .wik Tosoplasmosis 12:27 < saxo> "Toxoplasmosis is a parasitic disease caused by Toxoplasma gondii. Infections with toxoplasmosis usually cause no obvious symptoms in adults." - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toxoplasmosis 12:27 < nsh> gives you superpowers 12:27 < nsh> that is marginally decreases risk aversion 12:27 < nsh> so you spread them lurgs betterer 12:27 < L29Ah> proof or it causes intelligent humans to become normies 12:27 < nsh> also kills you if you have HIV 12:27 < nsh> or AIDS rather 12:28 < nsh> occasionally 12:29 < nsh> -- 12:29 < nsh> Differences in behavior between infected and uninfected subjects were also examined using a panel of simple behavioral tests. For example, experiments designed to measure suspiciousness rated the person's willingness to taste a strange liquid, to let one's wallet be controlled by the experimenter, and to put one's signature on an empty sheet of paper. Similarly, experiments designed to measure self-control rated whether the person came early or late for 12:29 < nsh> the testing, how accurate the person's guess was as to the contents of his or her own wallet, the time used to answer the computerized questionnaire, and the person's knowledge of social etiquette. The composite behavioral factors Self-Control and Clothes Tidiness, analogous to Cattell factors Q3 (perfectionism) and G (superego strength), showed a significant effect of the toxoplasmosis–gender interaction, with infected men scoring significantly lowe 12:29 < nsh> r than uninfected men and a trend in the opposite direction for women. The effect of the toxoplasmosis–gender interaction on the composite behavioral variable “Relationships” (analogous to factor A, warmth) approached significance; infected men scored significantly lower than uninfected men, whereas there was no difference among women.9 All ratings were done by raters blind to the person's T. gondii infection status. 12:29 < nsh> -- https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2526142/ 12:29 < nsh> lol @ behavioural variable 'relationships' 12:31 < nsh> conclusion of article: science is hard herpsaderps 13:00 < fenn> now i want to get involved in measuring peoples' suspiciousness 13:01 < fenn> that sounds endlessly entertaining 14:34 -!- ffranr__ [~ffranr@79-65-233-73.host.pobb.as13285.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 14:40 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:54 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:27 < lsneff> Is toxoplasmosis associated with liking cats? 16:16 < jrayhawk> that's one of the hypotheses 16:17 < jrayhawk> unfortunately the evidence for all of that is observational and inconsistent 16:17 < L29Ah> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3497129/ 16:18 < L29Ah> the first scientific article google shoves at me when i google for toxoplasmosis liking cats correlation 16:41 < kanzure> .g honggfuzz 16:41 < saxo> https://github.com/google/honggfuzz/blob/master/docs/USAGE.md 17:07 < yashgaroth> kanzure, bacteriophages won't be able to attack the bacteria if they're hidden inside a host cell; a theoretical vaccine would be more effective since you'd have antibodies floating around to hopefully deactivate the bacteria before they get inside your cells, whereas phage therapy only has a limited window before your body attacks the phages 17:34 -!- HEx1 [~HEx@hexwab.plus.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:35 -!- HEx1 [~HEx@hexwab.plus.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:08 -!- darsie [~kvirc@84-114-73-160.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:33 -!- turona [~quassel@2a01:c23:5c33:5200:5d6b:8359:873d:eba7] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:47 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffffff@172.58.19.89] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:20 -!- Urchin [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:54 -!- CryptoDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vutmcvfmldgxcabr] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] --- Log closed Sat May 16 00:00:22 2020