--- Log opened Mon May 25 00:00:30 2020 01:24 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:40 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:51 < lazarus1> enigma for you : 02:51 < lazarus1> the scientific 02:51 < lazarus1> https://imgur.com/a/KkPEOXE 02:52 < lazarus1> what is this symbol ? in rapport with Univers 03:11 < fenn> cymatics? 03:12 < fenn> 2D inverse fourier transform of simple shapes? 03:26 -!- ffranr [ffranr@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/ffranr] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:01 < lazarus1> yes 04:01 < lazarus1> exatly 04:01 < lazarus1> fenn 04:01 < lazarus1> now 04:02 < lazarus1> imagine in 3D 04:02 < lazarus1> i work on this sciences with the programing 04:03 < lazarus1> recursion phenomen 04:03 < lazarus1> similary for the "Fractals" 04:04 < lazarus1> little echell (example DNA ) until a large echell : Univers example "Galaxy" 04:04 < lazarus1> cymtics is too use in astrophysicals 04:05 < lazarus1> cymatics research * 04:08 -!- anonoxia [~anonoxia@2804:d59:852d:d100:cd1:cf48:60f2:8a27] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:16 < lazarus1> example : https://imgur.com/a/0Oa2Wny 04:17 < lazarus1> the turtles 04:17 < lazarus1> for cymatics in little echell 04:18 < lazarus1> (vibration and frequency) 04:19 < lazarus1> in the water* 04:20 < lazarus1> https://www.cymascope.com/cyma_research/astrophysics.html 04:26 < fenn> this has nothing to do with turtles 04:27 < fenn> the turtle shell is a product of a reaction/diffusion negative feedback system and cellular growth 04:28 < fenn> cymatics is a simple standing wave resonance pattern 04:28 < fenn> or vibration modes in solids 04:29 < fenn> neither are fractals 04:30 < lazarus1> i talk Fractals and cymatics i talk , rapport on the phenomen of recursion 04:31 < fenn> there's no recursion 04:31 < lazarus1> little echell until large echell 04:31 < fenn> what's "echell"? 04:31 < fenn> scale? as in size? 04:32 < lazarus1> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3Facu6ZVeA 04:32 < fenn> .title 04:32 < saxo> 8.2: Fractal Recursion - The Nature of Code - YouTube 04:32 < lazarus1> 8.2: Fractal Recursion - The Nature of Code 04:32 * fenn groans 04:41 < fenn> this is how turtles, vases, etc grow: http://vimeo.com/andylomas 04:41 < fenn> er, s/vases/brains/ 04:47 < fenn> andy lomas's structures only use one or two cell types, but of course a turtle or brain has many cell types, each with a much more complex genetic program 04:59 < fenn> "by altering the rules for generating nutrient, how cells split, and the forces between cells, a remarkably wide range of different organic structures can be created" 05:01 -!- mauz555 [~mauz555@2a01:e0a:56d:9090:65b6:4d76:a0cb:f02f] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:08 -!- pointfree [sid204397@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lxnkayhyoddwhykp] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:10 -!- pointfree [sid204397@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wbeevoycwdjiwclz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:12 < anonoxia> has anyone here reportedly been successful w/ diy dna synthesis? 05:14 -!- mauz555 [~mauz555@2a01:e0a:56d:9090:65b6:4d76:a0cb:f02f] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:15 -!- mauz555 [~mauz555@2a01:e0a:56d:9090:65b6:4d76:a0cb:f02f] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:20 < fenn> anonoxia: no because we couldn't get a fume extraction hood put into the bio lab. city zoning BS 05:20 < anonoxia> what harm could a fume extraction hood cause? 05:24 < L29Ah> fumes getting in your neighbour's face 05:24 < L29Ah> also annoying noise 05:33 < fenn> any modification to the building was not permitted. also it would have had to be re-zoned light industrial, which was not going to happen 05:33 < fenn> logic or reason never entered into consideration 05:48 -!- mauz555 [~mauz555@2a01:e0a:56d:9090:65b6:4d76:a0cb:f02f] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:48 -!- mauz555 [~mauz555@2a01:e0a:56d:9090:65b6:4d76:a0cb:f02f] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:54 -!- mauz555 [~mauz555@2a01:e0a:56d:9090:65b6:4d76:a0cb:f02f] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:54 -!- mauz555 [~mauz555@2a01:e0a:56d:9090:65b6:4d76:a0cb:f02f] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:54 -!- mauz555 [~mauz555@2a01:e0a:56d:9090:65b6:4d76:a0cb:f02f] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:54 -!- mauz555 [~mauz555@2a01:e0a:56d:9090:65b6:4d76:a0cb:f02f] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:04 -!- mauz555 [~mauz555@2a01:e0a:56d:9090:65b6:4d76:a0cb:f02f] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:05 -!- mauz555 [~mauz555@2a01:e0a:56d:9090:65b6:4d76:a0cb:f02f] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:07 -!- CryptoDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-epjgptoaopnpbyqv] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:07 < L29Ah> can't you, like, open a window and put a XPS sheet with an exhaust hole in the frame? 06:24 -!- ffranr [ffranr@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/ffranr] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 06:44 -!- mauz555 [~mauz555@2a01:e0a:56d:9090:65b6:4d76:a0cb:f02f] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:44 -!- mauz555 [~mauz555@2a01:e0a:56d:9090:65b6:4d76:a0cb:f02f] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:45 -!- mauz555 [~mauz555@2a01:e0a:56d:9090:65b6:4d76:a0cb:f02f] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:48 < anonoxia> ah, I see 06:56 -!- ffranr [ffranr@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/ffranr] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:58 -!- Llamamoe [~Llamagedd@188.146.97.244.nat.umts.dynamic.t-mobile.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:59 -!- ffranr [ffranr@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/ffranr] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:22 -!- lazarus1 [~lazarus1@91.214.44.137] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:55 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffffff@172.58.19.202] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:07 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@2601:643:8581:ac0:6022:d929:323a:c7ae] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:09 -!- delinquentme_ [~delinquen@ip-99-203-106-163.pools.spcsdns.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:11 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@2601:643:8581:ac0:6022:d929:323a:c7ae] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:33 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:46 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:59 -!- delinquentme_ [~delinquen@ip-99-203-106-163.pools.spcsdns.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:04 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=8b5a0bef Michael Folkson: Add Sydney Socratic >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/transcripts/sydney-bitcoin-meetup/2020-05-19-socratic-seminar/ 11:04 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=95adc7fb Bryan Bishop: Merge pull request #109 from michaelfolkson/sydney-socratic-may >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/ 11:47 -!- anonoxia [~anonoxia@2804:d59:852d:d100:cd1:cf48:60f2:8a27] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:11 < jrayhawk> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzcTgrxMzZk is there anything of similar quality that's been made in the 14 years since Inner Life of a Cell? 12:31 < abetusk> max cooper...now that I've discovered him I'm seeing him all over the place: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nO9aot9RgQc 12:34 < kanzure> i have some other animations listed here 12:34 < kanzure> SORT BY 12:34 < kanzure> https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLgO7JBj821uH_-G9H0lnYZkIrg0kqj1Ka 12:44 -!- anonoxia [~anonoxia@2804:d59:852d:d100:f4b9:14cb:7e8a:1a63] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:52 < kanzure> "Do you know about Synomix (using fetal cells to develop flavor enhancers) and this real?" 12:54 < kanzure> nevermind. i misinterpreted the question. 13:21 < archels> abetusk: thanks for the tip ♫ 13:27 -!- Llamamoe [~Llamagedd@188.146.97.244.nat.umts.dynamic.t-mobile.pl] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 13:28 -!- anonoxia [~anonoxia@2804:d59:852d:d100:f4b9:14cb:7e8a:1a63] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:01 < L29Ah> https://www.lifeextension.com/magazine/2017/4/metformin-slashes-cancer-risks ode to metformin w/ lots of prooflinks 14:34 -!- CRM114 [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:37 -!- Urchin [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:37 -!- CRM114 is now known as Urchin 15:55 -!- urkk_ [~urkk@129.138.239.188.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:56 -!- urkk [~urkk@173.142.239.188.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:01 -!- darsie [~kvirc@84-114-73-160.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:26 -!- anonoxia [~anonoxia@2804:d59:852d:d100:69d5:3e72:2b1:6a80] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:36 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:36 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/seeliglab/status/1264974947853594624 16:36 < saxo> Interested in using deep learning for designing proteins or cis-regulatory sequences? Try out this new (and fast) method by the very talented @jjohli: https://arxiv.org/abs/2005.11275 (@seeliglab) 16:40 -!- juri_ [~juri@178.63.35.222] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:40 -!- juri_ [~juri@178.63.35.222] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:46 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:58 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/lsparrish/status/1265022578978107392 16:58 < saxo> And I think it's sustainable for more than 10 doublings -- 1000x the starting capital. A well planned city could start out with 100,000 people and end up housing 100 million -- a country in its own right. (@lsparrish, in reply to tw:1265021659746091010) 17:07 < fenn> docl: the free state project utterly failed. probably worth looking into 17:30 -!- anonoxia [~anonoxia@2804:d59:852d:d100:69d5:3e72:2b1:6a80] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:52 < fenn> i always get lsparrish mixed up with liz parrish and then i'm really confused for a while 17:59 < fenn> BioViva’s TimeKeeper™ tracks DNA methylation patterns. TimeKeeper™ is based on the Horvath Epigenetic Clock. 18:11 < fenn> https://www.engadget.com/ti-bans-assembly-programs-on-calculators-002335088.html 18:16 < kanzure> alternative: https://www.swissmicros.com/dm42.php 18:17 < kanzure> from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23263595 18:19 < fenn> that's not the point 18:19 < fenn> you're stuck in class and you can't even modify your own calculator to prevent yourself from dying of boredom 18:19 < fenn> it's the principle of the thing. people should be able to modify their own property 18:22 < fenn> "user hostile features" 18:26 < kanzure> next you'll be proposing a "john deere law" 18:26 < kanzure> not that there's anything wrong with that 18:27 < fenn> whatever that is, i'm probably in favor of it 18:29 < kanzure> john deere is the tractor company that has banned owners from repairing tractors 18:29 < kanzure> and various other john deere tractor firmware problems on top of that 18:30 < kanzure> kind of like that cnc manufacturer that locks out the cnc machine when it detects it has been moved on the shop floor 18:30 < fenn> if they make it practically impossible to repair, it doesn't matter if they "ban" you from repairing or not 18:30 < fenn> like miller welders have some mysterious epoxy glob power IC module that has all the smarts and functionality of the machine 18:31 < kanzure> https://www.aglaw.us/janzenaglaw/2017/3/29/fixing-the-right-to-repair 18:32 < fenn> "As the software component of a new tractor becomes more important than the hardware" which will be when exactly? 18:32 < fenn> is it a self-driving tractor? 18:33 < fenn> wow i wonder how much they paid this author 18:37 < fenn> "nobody cares about the right to repair their impossible to repair junk. they just buy a new one" 18:37 < fenn> great argument dude 18:48 -!- ensign_ [~ensign@integer.musalbas.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:48 -!- ensign [~ensign@integer.musalbas.com] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 19:23 -!- traumschule [~traumschu@mehl.schokokeks.org] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:03 -!- CryptoDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-epjgptoaopnpbyqv] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 20:27 -!- anonoxia [~anonoxia@2804:d59:852d:d100:ed60:bca2:eae2:9af9] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:44 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffffff@172.58.19.202] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:15 -!- Codaraxis [~Codaraxis@ip68-5-90-227.oc.oc.cox.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:16 -!- Codaraxis [~Codaraxis@ip68-5-90-227.oc.oc.cox.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:17 -!- Codaraxis [~Codaraxis@ip68-5-90-227.oc.oc.cox.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:18 -!- Codaraxis [~Codaraxis@ip68-5-90-227.oc.oc.cox.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:32 -!- anonoxia [~anonoxia@2804:d59:852d:d100:ed60:bca2:eae2:9af9] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 23:48 -!- darsie [~kvirc@84-114-73-160.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined ##hplusroadmap --- Log closed Tue May 26 00:00:31 2020