--- Log opened Thu Jun 25 00:00:00 2020 00:17 -!- Azitrex [~Azitrex@unaffiliated/azitrex] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:23 -!- darsie [~kvirc@84-114-73-160.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:38 -!- midnight [~midnight@unaffiliated/midnightmagic] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 00:47 -!- midnight [~midnight@unaffiliated/midnightmagic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:57 -!- midnight [~midnight@unaffiliated/midnightmagic] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:09 -!- adlai [~adlai@unaffiliated/adlai] has quit [Quit: Not all who wander are lost] 01:10 -!- dr-orlovsky [~dr-orlovs@xdsl-188-154-186-21.adslplus.ch] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:35 -!- HumanG33k [~HumanG33k@62.147.242.8] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:53 -!- HumanG33k [~HumanG33k@62.147.242.8] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:54 -!- HumanG33k [~HumanG33k@62.147.242.8] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:55 -!- HumanG33k [~HumanG33k@62.147.242.8] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:56 -!- midnight [~midnight@unaffiliated/midnightmagic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:59 -!- dr-orlovsky [~dr-orlovs@xdsl-188-154-186-21.adslplus.ch] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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ZZZzzz…] 07:35 < lsneff> .t https://www.nature.com/articles/s41563-020-0709-5 07:35 < saxo> De novo nanomaterial crystals from DNA frameworks | Nature Materials 08:07 -!- Azitrex [~Azitrex@unaffiliated/azitrex] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:31 -!- Azitrex [~Azitrex@unaffiliated/azitrex] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:33 < kanzure> https://www.forbes.com/sites/johncumbers/2020/06/23/a-new-way-of-making-dna-is-about-to-revolutionize-the-biotech-industry/#721c44f549ff 08:34 < kanzure> ugh "Businesses like San Diego-based Molecular Assemblies have been adapting polymerase enzymes to create custom DNA molecules. They hold 24 patents on the matter" 08:34 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffffff@172.58.19.191] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:34 < kanzure> i hope by polymerase they mean TdT 08:34 < kanzure> i think we technically talked with bill about our techniques 08:34 < kanzure> .title https://youtu.be/0PEOIksxocU 08:34 < saxo> Codexis and Molecular Assemblies Partner to Transform the Field of DNA Synthesis - YouTube 08:35 < kanzure> er, rather, https://youtube.com/watch?v=0PEOIksxocU 10:26 < yashgaroth> they were having real trouble getting TdT to actually do what they wanted when I interviewed there, seems like they're basically just outsourcing the protein engineering to codexis 10:26 < saxo> yashgaroth: salt licks 10:26 < yashgaroth> oh 10:37 < kanzure> yashgaroth: most likely they are still TdT only right? 10:40 < yashgaroth> oh, for sure; and TdT is technically a polymerase 10:41 < kanzure> do aptamers work because of high entropy sequencs, or can long stretches of low entropy DNA (say on the order of 100 bp) that vary (every few hundred bp they switch to another pattern or nucleotide) would be a functional and useful aptamer? 10:48 < kanzure> did we ever write down what the slowest polymerase is and where to find that? 10:50 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:03 -!- Azitrex [~Azitrex@unaffiliated/azitrex] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:11 < kanzure> "These nucleotides have a reversible 3' fluorescent blocker so the DNA polymerase can only add one nucleotide at a time onto the DNA fragment. After each round, non-incorporated molecules are washed away. A chemical deblocking step is then used to remove the 3’ fluorescent terminal blocking group." 11:15 < kanzure> "dATPs, dTTPs, dGTPs, and dCTPs are washed over the cell separately so each nucleotide is able to be identified. 11:16 < kanzure> why can this not be used for synthesis? the protocol would be: keep washing over the dNTP you want until you notice that it was incorporated. 11:17 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:18 < kanzure> i guess call this "synthesis by sequencing by synthesis" 11:28 -!- dr-orlovsky [~dr-orlovs@xdsl-188-154-186-21.adslplus.ch] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:27 -!- dr-orlovsky [~dr-orlovs@xdsl-188-154-186-21.adslplus.ch] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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