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07:17 < kanzure> .wik Dsup
07:17 < saxo> "Dsup (contraction of damage suppressor) is a DNA-associating protein, unique to the tardigrade, that suppresses the occurrence of DNA breaks by radiation." - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dsup
07:19 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=cc55d8a6 Bryan Bishop: radiation resistance with dsup >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/genetic-modifications/
07:36 < kanzure> southern cryonics facility in australia https://7news.com.au/sunrise/on-the-show/australias-first-body-freezing-cryonic-facility-attracting-huge-numbers-c-1050697
07:36 < kanzure> https://southerncryonics.com/
07:50 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=ce967580 Adam Jonas: add john newbery security models talk >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/transcripts/chaincode-labs/2019-06-17-john-newbery-security-models/
07:50 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=932da46f Bryan Bishop: Merge pull request #165 from adamjonas/jn-security-models >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/
07:51 < adlai> p/bu11
07:51 < adlai> oops.
07:56 < kanzure> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/diybio/dd550ca0-006e-4fe5-a543-e403a06b6a58n%40googlegroups.com
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09:14 < lsneff> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/jXKaDCpo/The+Mind+of+a+Mouse.pdf
09:15 < lsneff> “Roughly 1 million terabytes of data will need to be acquired and analyzed to provide a complete mouse brain connectome that includes all interareal projections and all synaptic connections.”
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09:19 < juri_> just the storage of that sounds expensive.
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09:36 < darsie> How much is that per neuron?
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10:40 < lsneff> ~14.3 GB/neuron
10:43 < lsneff> Which is enormous, I'm not sure how much relevant state there is per neuron, but it can't be too much, I think.
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13:01 < TMA> sure. however, we do not have a clear idea about what constitutes the relevant state among the collectible data
14:00 < docl> https://sci-hub.se/10.1038/nnano.2011.142
14:00 < docl> (from 2011)
14:01 < docl> Experimental demonstration of a single-molecule electric motor
14:02 < docl> https://scholar.google.com/scholar?cites=11843294929143881102
14:03 < docl> Papers citing the above
14:05 < docl> https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2011/09/demonstration-of-single-molecule.html
14:05 < docl> .title
14:05 < saxo> Demonstration of a single-molecule electric motor | NextBigFuture.com
14:06 < docl> "For the experiment that Sykes did at Tufts, the temperature surrounding the molecular motor had to be reduced to 5 Kelvin—a chilly minus 450 degrees F.
14:06 < docl> That’s because as temperatures rise, the motor spins much faster, far beyond the ability of the scientists to measure the rotations. At 100 Kelvin—or minus 279 degrees F—a molecular motor spins more than a million times per second. “It’s not that we couldn’t work at a higher temperature—it’s just that too much is happening,” says Sykes. “At that speed, it’s just a blur.”"
14:07 < docl> So apparently it's only useful at liquid helium temps. It would be interesting to see what similar approaches have been taken since. Larger molecules would probably tend to spin more slowly.
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14:51 < lsneff> I realized why I don't like https://obsidian.md, because it's build on top of the files/folder abstraction, which doesn't map well to my brain.
14:51 < lsneff> To work well for me, I'd really need to be able to link directly to parts of other notes.
14:52 < lsneff> And for it to be WYSIWYG.
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17:03 < lsneff> .t https://github.com/athensresearch/athens
17:03 < saxo> GitHub - athensresearch/athens: Open-Source Networked Thought. Rolling out our Beta to Sponsors. Read more at https://www.notion.so/athensresearch/MVP-Update-Funding-and-Why-I-Started-Athens-e68822f0c3654660ae621cdcbf932bc4
17:03 < lsneff> This is it.
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17:16 < fenn> what is it
17:16 < fenn> i see a bunch of generic "bettering society" stuff and no description of what athens is supposed to do
17:18 < fenn> "graph database, bi-directional links, and hypertext transclusions"?
17:18 < fenn> why don't these people just help ted nelson
17:25 < lsneff> I think that's basically the idea.
17:26 < lsneff> By making open knowledge graph tools, they can drive the field towards being able to share and link between knowledge graphs, and eventually add bi-directional links to the web.
17:26 < lsneff> It's an open-source roam research basically.
17:27 < lsneff> A tool for building a personal knowledge graph.
17:37 < fenn> this seems like something new https://medium.com/@harmonylion1/decentralizing-the-search-for-truth-using-financial-markets-648bf4408b5c (ideamarket.io)
17:37 < docl> .title https://sci-hub.se/10.1038/nnano.2012.218
17:38 < saxo> Sci-Hub | Controlled clockwise and anticlockwise rotational switching of a molecular motor. Nature Nanotechnology, 8(1), 46–51 | 10.1038/nnano.2012.218
17:40 < fenn> ideamarket.io does seem unfortunately tilted heavily toward speculation rather than generating actual steady incomes for journalists
17:46 < fenn> oh they take a cut of investments and feed the top performers interest from that pile of money
17:47 < fenn> top 0.1% of journalists seems a bit too selective
17:47 < fenn> that's like one newspaper
17:48 < fenn> also i missed the part where truth comes in
17:52  * fenn reads https://github.com/harmonylion/ideamarkets/wiki/Whitepaper-v1
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20:34 < fenn> i like the format/presentation of this technology catalog, although it is somewhat niche (US marines equipment) http://ciehub.info
20:38 < fenn> it helps having really high quality photos and diagrams to start with
20:53 < lsneff> .t http://alumni.media.mit.edu/~rhodes/Papers/remembrance.html
20:53 < saxo> Remembrance Agent: A continuously running automated information retrieval system
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