--- Log opened Thu Nov 12 00:00:14 2020 00:31 -!- omniscum [~kvirc@84-113-55-200.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:56 -!- spaceangel [~spaceange@ip-89-177-56-55.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:46 -!- shawwwn [uid6132@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bufzrigvzdtplnwg] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 03:01 < nmz787> https://github.com/wickedchicken/sndpeek 03:02 < nmz787> super cool to run and just whistle and hum and sing 03:02 < nmz787> very satisfying graphics 03:14 < nmz787> https://twitter.com/norklemcdorkle/status/1326844501411819522 03:33 < fenn> it's just a spectrogram 03:59 -!- Llamamoe [~Llamagedd@178235184157.dynamic-4-waw-k-2-0-0.vectranet.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:18 < archels> nmz787: related/unrelated https://soundshader.github.io/hn/acf/index.html 06:42 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/SatelliteJosh/status/1326717305208844288 06:42 < saxo> Holy crap, I just discovered the Netflix of spacecraft systems engineering. // https://nescacademy.nasa.gov/ (@SatelliteJosh) 06:48 -!- sanehatter [sanehatter@gateway/vpn/mullvad/sanehatter] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:49 -!- sanehatter [~sanehatte@141.98.255.144] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:54 < lsneff> .tw https://twitter.com/qraal/status/1326802374892154880 06:54 < saxo> [2011.05385] Influence of Electromagnetic Fields on Nuclear Processes // https://arxiv.org/abs/2011.05385 (@qraal) 06:54 < lsneff> "Although the energies associated with nuclear reactions are due primarily to interactions involving nuclear forces, the rates and probabilities associated with those reactions are effectively governed by electromagnetic forces. Charges in the local environment can modulate the Coulomb barrier, and thereby change the rates of nuclear processes." 08:01 -!- CryptoDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wbcnsvudrukrquma] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:03 -!- shawwwn [uid6132@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ekukqvscpuetbkvm] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:27 < kanzure> "Indistinguishability obfuscation from well-founded assumptions" https://eprint.iacr.org/2020/1003 09:16 -!- nanotube [~nanotube@unaffiliated/nanotube] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:50 < kanzure> https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/12/opinion/ivf-add-ons.html 09:54 -!- nanotube [~nanotube@unaffiliated/nanotube] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:02 -!- juri_ [~juri@178.63.35.222] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:30 -!- Urchin[emacs] [~user@unaffiliated/urchin] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:43 -!- juri_ [~juri@178.63.35.222] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:02 -!- shawwwn [uid6132@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ekukqvscpuetbkvm] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 11:22 -!- CryptoDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wbcnsvudrukrquma] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 12:53 -!- mauz555 [~mauz555@2a01:e0a:56d:9090:c144:b05b:ef62:3b51] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:12 -!- Urchin[emacs] [~user@unaffiliated/urchin] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:28 -!- Urchin[emacs] [~user@unaffiliated/urchin] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:38 -!- shawwwn [uid6132@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mwerbhaclcwgftzu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:45 -!- Urchin[emacs] [~user@unaffiliated/urchin] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:00 -!- Cory [~Cory@unaffiliated/cory] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 14:03 -!- L29Ah [~L29Ah@unaffiliated/l29ah] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:08 -!- Cory [~Cory@unaffiliated/cory] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:14 -!- L29Ah [~L29Ah@unaffiliated/l29ah] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:24 -!- mauz555 [~mauz555@2a01:e0a:56d:9090:c144:b05b:ef62:3b51] has quit [] 14:25 -!- Llamamoe [~Llamagedd@178235184157.dynamic-4-waw-k-2-0-0.vectranet.pl] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:50 -!- Urchin[emacs] [~user@unaffiliated/urchin] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:08 -!- nanotube [~nanotube@unaffiliated/nanotube] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:16 -!- nanotube [~nanotube@unaffiliated/nanotube] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:40 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffffff@2601:5c4:c780:6aa0:c87b:20d5:31a2:bbd1] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:57 -!- midnight [~midnight@unaffiliated/midnightmagic] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 16:02 -!- midnight [~midnight@unaffiliated/midnightmagic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:20 -!- dongcarl1 is now known as dongcarl 16:36 -!- omniscum [~kvirc@84-113-55-200.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:37 -!- spaceangel [~spaceange@ip-89-177-56-55.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:40 < lsneff> .t https://rootsofprogress.org/where-is-my-flying-car 16:40 < saxo> Progress, stagnation, and flying cars 16:50 < L29Ah> grab ur autogyro/paramotor and stfu 16:53 -!- filipepe_ [uid362247@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-entfahyuyeynngjz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:54 < L29Ah> damn he speaks imperial units 16:55 * L29Ah eyebleeds and closes the tab 17:04 < superkuh> saxo, https://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/ParticleAndNuclear/decay_rates.html "How to Change Nuclear Decay Rates" tldr; electron capture beta decay can't happen if there's no electron to capture. 17:11 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffffff@2601:5c4:c780:6aa0:c87b:20d5:31a2:bbd1] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:52 -!- filipepe_ is now known as filipepe 20:10 -!- Urchin[emacs] [~user@unaffiliated/urchin] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:11 < lsneff> .t https://github.com/github/dmca/blob/master/2020/11/2020-11-09-Google.md 20:11 < saxo> dmca/2020-11-09-Google.md at master · github/dmca · GitHub 20:13 < fenn> "Widevine is a Google-Owned DRM system that's in use by many popular streaming services (Netflix, Spotify, ...) to protect media content from being downloaded." 20:14 < fenn> "This Chrome extension demonstrates how it's possible to bypass Widevine DRM by hijacking calls to the browser's Encrypted Media Extensions (EME) and decrypting all Widevine content keys transferred ... It is our belief that the repo as a whole represents a circumvention tool in violation of 1201 and therefore needs to be removed." 20:14 < fenn> don't be evil, google 20:18 < fenn> widevine-l3-decryptor 20:22 < lsneff> There needs to be a github alternative that's hosted either in Sweden or in LEO. 21:01 < fltrz> whatever happened to gitchain (decentralized git blockchain)? using bare git doesn't provide a discoverability mechanism 21:01 < fltrz> lsneff, also, is there a reason sci-hub isn't hosted from LEO, just linearly going through all the articles? 21:16 < lsneff> fltrz: Well, it's still really expensive, I imagine. 21:17 < lsneff> And I'm not sure you could buy terabytes of rad-rated storage that can fit in a cubesat 21:25 < fltrz> how large an area can a cubesat continuously transmit data to with cubesat level solar panels? 21:27 < fltrz> lsneff, sure, it's bound to be expensive, but why does no nation state do it? 21:29 < lsneff> Cause it's expensive and there's no reason to if you're a nation state. 21:29 < lsneff> While I have mixed feelings, filecoin or something like it might be the most practical solution. 21:40 < fenn> sci-hub is really big. so big you can't fit it in a cubesat with modern hard drives 21:42 < fenn> it would be great if some number of nations simply buried a copy of sci-hub somewhere in the ground 21:42 < lsneff> Like as an archive? 21:43 -!- filipepe [uid362247@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-entfahyuyeynngjz] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 21:43 < fenn> like a time capsule, or a backup, or a reboot-civilization-after-armageddon tool 21:44 < fenn> the dinosaurs that replace us should be grateful for the knowledge of the ancients 21:44 < lsneff> They'd have a hell of a time reading it 21:45 < fenn> but really i'm concerned about the case where journals simply go out of business and nobody bothers to keep a copy of the papers 21:46 < lsneff> that does seem like a plausible issue 21:46 < fenn> now you have a bunch of science that other papers depend on, but we don't know what the cited experiments actually did 21:47 < fenn> also it's a huge waste, and sometimes impossible to re-do experiments because the conditions don't exist anymore 21:48 < lsneff> Actually, back on the reboot-civilization thing sort of, I wonder how much error-correcting data could be added to the genome of a plant or something. 21:50 < fenn> well tulips have a few dozen copies, and eukaryote genomes are like gigabytes 21:52 < fenn> you'd have to sprinkle life-supporting code around the data storage regions to prevent whole chromosomes from being pruned 21:54 < fenn> now if you just had a vial of DNA, that'll store really huge quantities of data 21:54 < lsneff> Right, yeah, just dna can store a bunch, and it does last a while. 21:54 < lsneff> But to really keep data around, you'd want it to self-replicate 21:54 < fenn> it presents new challenges for sure 21:59 < lsneff> is it feasible yet to synthesize enough dna to store something like scihub or libgen? 22:10 < fenn> no 22:11 < fenn> also there is a subtle difference between "synthetic dna" and "dna data storage" 22:11 < lsneff> is that difference that you have to be able to read it as well 22:11 < fenn> i don't remember what i'm allowed to say or not say, so i'll let you figure it out 22:12 < fenn> dna used for living things must be 100% perfect 22:12 < fenn> dna used for data storage could be whatever 22:13 < lsneff> oh, with ecc, the allowed error rates could be very high 22:13 < fenn> also there's information contained in methylation patterns 22:14 < fenn> you could for example methylate naturally produced dna 22:14 < fenn> and store data on it that way 22:15 < fenn> it's better to store data as base pairs though because you can leverage all the existing infrastructure for copying and proofreading 22:16 < fenn> i imagine a future of data wrangling where you do a database query by adding some PCR primers to a droplet on a microfluidic chip and then sequencing the amplified dna 22:17 < fenn> but the entire database would be replicated by a different enzyme, like Pol III 22:17 < fenn> Taq has a much higher error rate 22:19 < fenn> even though dna is digital, without actually correcting errors during the copy process, errors will multiply and the information will degrade as in an analog copy 22:19 < lsneff> makes sense 22:20 < fenn> error correcting codes are amazingly good though 22:21 < lsneff> especially if you can afford multiplying the amount of data by an order of magnitude or two, which I suspect you could with dna since the density is so high 22:24 < lsneff> searching a database with pcr would be really elegant, search through 100s of petabytes of data in a single query 23:04 -!- Urchin[emacs] [~user@unaffiliated/urchin] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:59 < shawwwn> Apparently I have 2660 days of unread messages from this channel. 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