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06:24 < kanzure> is he launching today?
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07:27 < lsneff> who launching what?
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07:41 < L29Ah> the god-emperor of earth
07:41 < fenn> starship was stretching and flapping on its launch stand, but it looks like they are still fighting with FAA
07:43 < fenn> SN10 is being rolled out to the pad in the meanwhile
07:43 < fenn> i'm not going to say "no" because it's totally possible that there will be a launch later today, but not any time soon
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07:46 < lsneff> Was the faa kerfuffle yesterday because of the challenger anniversary?
07:46 < fenn> lol just when you think you've heard every dingbat conspiracy theory
07:47 < fenn> in the meanwhile we will just have to be happy with this cinematic trailer: http://twitter.com/considercosmos/status/1354654986244919300
07:48 < fenn> lsneff the best explanation i've heard, which was an unconfirmed rumor:
07:48 < fenn> .tw https://twitter.com/RGVaerialphotos/status/1354860131335475200
07:48 < saxo> Reason for delay // “FAA is basically giving SpaceX a hard time with the licensing because of the engine swap, it is technically a new vehicle. “ https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Es1uGlJXMAIK0oo.jpg (@RGVaerialphotos)
07:49 < lsneff> That's pretty rich
07:50 < fenn> .tw 1354862567680847876
07:50 < saxo> @NASASpaceflight Unlike its aircraft division, which is fine, the FAA space division has a fundamentally broken regulatory structure. // Their rules are meant for a handful of expendable launches per year from a few government facilities. Under those rules, humanity will never get to Mars. (@elonmusk, in reply to tw:1354848025512972289)
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09:54 < lsneff> Musk's ability to drive btc like he did earlier worries me.
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10:22 < apotheon> 15:41 < L29Ah> the god-emperor of earth
10:22 < apotheon> If you mean Elon, I think he's the god-emperor of Mars.
10:23 < apotheon> lsneff: How did he drive BTC activity?
10:23 < fenn> technically, the elon of mars
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10:38 < L29Ah> Musk moving his launch facility to the ocean or shitholestan when?
10:39 < apotheon> when it becomes more economically viable without too-significant operational risks
10:39 < apotheon> . . . though I guess he might move it to international waters *just* for the sake of developing new technologies from the exercise.  That seems like his kind of thing to do.
10:39 < apotheon> He'd probably launch a new side-company to do it.
10:39 < fenn> lone star mineral development
10:40 < fenn> they are still subject to FAA regulation even when launching from international waters (or even from mars, if you can believe it)
10:49 < L29Ah> There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Launch!
10:50 < apotheon> fenn: Couldn't they evade that by incorporating elsewhere?
10:50 < fenn> no because rocket technology is export controlled (ITAR)
10:51 < apotheon> I'm pretty sure there's nothing free about having to build your own floating island for space launches.
10:51 < apotheon> . . . but that's a nice use of TANSTAAFL.
10:51 < fenn> there ain't no such thing as a libre launch
10:51 < apotheon> I have, of course, used that pun before -- when I'd tell people I'm away with a message like "Out to launch.  Back when lit."
10:52 < fenn> L29Ah: spacex bought two oil rigs recently, but it will take at least six months to remove all the oil crap
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12:07 < archels> .title https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6298579/pdf/emss-80426.pdf
12:07 < saxo> Sorry, page isn't HTML
12:08 < archels> you are a patchwork of mutations; mutations accumulate over lifetime
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12:51 < lsneff> I'd that a reference to the bot or to humans?
12:52 < lsneff> *is
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15:18 < Guest21057> hi there
15:18 < Guest21057> would you recommend to me to study bio-informatics?
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15:22 < L29Ah> archels: cool stuff, thanks
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16:10 < lsneff> .yt https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gQn-evdsAo
16:10 < lsneff> "Working on the Neuralink Robot"
16:11 < lsneff> The description is "MB01FXCJIJR6PHX"
16:11 < lsneff> I'm not sure what that is... maybe a serial number of some sort
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20:08 < lsneff> Google took Element (matrix client) of the play store
20:16 < fenn> why?
20:20 < lsneff> They haven't said.
20:21 < fenn> my guess is sharing of illegal memes
20:21 < lsneff> I'm sorry, illegal memes?
20:22 < fenn> you know, liking donald trump, saying "he" generically, that sort of thing
20:24 < lsneff> 🤔
20:25 < fenn> i guess that's an emoji of some sort, but i'm emoji blind
20:26 < fenn> don't mind me, i'm just bitter in general
20:27 < lsneff> Yeah, conservative memes aren't illegal or prevented anywhere
20:28 < fenn> it's the principle
20:29 < fenn> something people don't seem to understand anymore
20:30 < lsneff> Principle of what?
20:32 < fenn> quite a few of them. being transparent to your users. being transparent to your business partners. treating people fairly. respecting the ideal of freedom of speech, even if you aren't legally compelled to. not using your global monopoly to crush dissent. not openwashing your closed source products. not pulling a bait and switch once people are locked into your platform.
20:33 < lsneff> Oh sure, 100% agreed.
20:34 < lsneff> I'm not sure what that has to do with memes though.
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20:39 < fenn> i feel like this is off topic for this channel, and i'm getting ready for bed. go read the news for the last month if you actually want to know
20:39 < lsneff> It is off channel, anyhow
20:39 < lsneff> *off topic
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