--- Log opened Tue Mar 09 00:00:51 2021 00:54 -!- Jay_Dugger [~jwd@47.185.203.87] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:55 -!- Jay_Dugger [~jwd@47.185.203.87] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:17 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@unaffiliated/malvolio] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:27 -!- aztec is now known as up1ime 01:34 -!- darsie [~kvirc@84-113-55-200.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:39 -!- up1ime is now known as aztec 05:12 < docl> .title https://kk.org/thetechnium/scenius-or-comm/ 05:12 < saxo> The Technium: Scenius, or Communal Genius 05:13 < docl> .wik Aptamer 05:13 < saxo> "Aptamers (from the Latin aptus – fit, and Greek meros – part) are oligonucleotide or peptide molecules that bind to a specific target molecule." - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aptamer 05:21 < fenn> aptamers are wacky because they are both the effector and the information storage molecule, so you can directly select for the most effective sequence 05:22 < fenn> the sequence which binds most strongly will be the one that's bound to your target. so pull the target out and the best sequences will be attached. then replicate and mutate them and try again, lather, rinse, repeat 06:16 < docl> replicate as in dna replication? sounds like the term includes peptides, so those you'd need to synthesize (via rna perhaps). 06:29 < L29Ah> .t https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/14654093/ 06:30 < saxo> The effects of IDRA 21, a positive modulator of the AMPA receptor, on delayed matching performance by young and aged rhesus monkeys - PubMed 06:57 -!- jtimon [~quassel@90.166.158.146.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:41 < kanzure> docl: lsneff: has mr. spiroligomer done aptamer stuff with spiroligomers? 07:41 < kanzure> or is bulk random synthesis not a thing 07:56 -!- andytosh1 is now known as andytoshi 08:04 -!- dongcarl [~dongcarl@unaffiliated/dongcarl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:06 < docl> kanzure: google doesn't think so, nor google scholar :/ 09:43 < lsneff> kanzure: no idea, haven’t talked to him in a while 09:43 < lsneff> decided against working for his lab this summer 09:57 -!- spaceangel [~spaceange@ip-89-102-171-33.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:38 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:48 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:02 < kanzure> https://scholar.archive.org/ 12:22 < lsneff> Nowhere near as complete as scihub unfortunately 12:22 < lsneff> though it may have more older works 12:26 < lsneff> prediction: a gpt-3 size transformer trained on a database of all papers in a specific field would be useful for searching through the conglomeration of all research in that field 13:16 < lsneff> .t https://arxiv.org/abs/2006.07125 13:16 < saxo> [2006.07125] Breaking the Warp Barrier: Hyper-Fast Solitons in Einstein-Maxwell-Plasma Theory 13:16 < lsneff> "This is the first example of hyper-fast solitons resulting from known and familiar sources, reopening the discussion of superluminal mechanisms rooted in conventional physics." 13:30 -!- spaceangel [~spaceange@ip-89-102-171-33.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:48 -!- jtimon [~quassel@90.166.158.146.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:02 < archels> random nanobio machinery movie of the day https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihlFqOK5cZM 17:18 < kanzure> patch for a git vulnerability https://github.com/gitster/git/commit/684dd4c2b414bcf648505e74498a608f28de45922 17:39 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: AgenttiX_alt, mjr[m] 17:45 -!- Netsplit over, joins: AgenttiX_alt 17:49 -!- darsie [~kvirc@84-113-55-200.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:50 < L29Ah> kanzure: 404 17:53 -!- mjr[m] [mjrconvers@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-rwduheeqttplnhxp] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:59 < fenn> shockingly, search actually works without javascript on scholar.archive.org 18:03 < fenn> i don't think of peptides when i hear "aptamer" 18:05 < fenn> the "peptide aptamer" concept seems more like phage display 18:13 < fenn> whatever it is, the scheme is complicated and i'm just not getting it from the wikipedia explanation. feeling dumb today for obvious reasons 18:16 < fenn> need one of those fancy 3D animations to explain the concept 18:24 < fenn> http://www.cellscape.co.uk/ is doing it right 18:27 < lsneff> As someone interested in graphics, those are very impressive animations 18:31 < lsneff> .t https://www.izhikevich.org/publications/spikes.htm 18:31 < saxo> Simple Model of Spiking Neurons 18:37 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@unaffiliated/malvolio] has quit [Quit: you may suffer biological failure] 18:41 < lsneff> Looks like he simulated one second of 10^11 neurons randomly connected and observed alpha and gamma rhythms 18:58 < kanzure> ooold article 18:59 < kanzure> lsneff: take a look at https://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/ai/ and https://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/neuro/ 19:00 < kanzure> this stuff was interesting https://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/neuro/randall-oreilly/ 19:01 -!- etlonjonh [~Noah@c-98-213-199-167.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:08 < lsneff> Is that neural model in the article I linked still useful, or have they moved on from there? 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Native to Earth!] 19:55 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@unaffiliated/malvolio] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:03 -!- etlonjonh [~Noah@c-98-213-199-167.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has left ##hplusroadmap ["Leaving"] 20:13 < kanzure> lsneff: i think the blue brain human brain project stuff had more detail? archels will know more. 20:14 < lsneff> 👍 20:14 < lsneff> adam marblestone was talking about a brain scanning FRO a few months ago 20:15 < kanzure> have you considered a geochurch internship? 20:21 < lsneff> easier said than done 20:22 < kanzure> nah the way it works is that you kind of just show up and then you don't leave 20:22 < kanzure> boyden lab also hires software peoples 20:22 < kanzure> and they collaborate a bunch 20:23 < lsneff> interesting... 20:24 < lsneff> i may look into that more 20:25 < L29Ah> http://arep.med.harvard.edu/gmc/email.html :D 20:27 < fenn> i'm pretty sure spammers have figured out how to grep for [at] 20:27 < kanzure> lsneff: boyden lab is somewhere else btw but pretty sure that's where marblestone came from 20:27 < kanzure> i think they pass the good ones around like baseball cards between the labs 20:28 < fenn> draft pick 20:28 < fenn> the 2021 academic tournament season 20:28 < kanzure> i remember davidad was hanging around the hoop for a bit... 20:28 < kanzure> kettner was another one 20:28 < fenn> who's kettner? 20:28 < kanzure> dna synthesis dna data storage person 20:29 < kanzure> https://genetics.med.harvard.edu/lab/church/kgriswold 20:29 < fenn> start a fantasy academia betting website where you make predictions about who gets published in the next year and build your dream lab 20:30 < lsneff> macadaculus 20:31 < lsneff> I'm not really sure I'm what they're looking for, given that I'm not necessarily interested in staying in academia, but I'll think about contacting them 20:33 < lsneff> (I'm also not sure why I want to do, that's probably a bigger issue) 20:33 < lsneff> *what I want to do 20:35 < kanzure> lsneff: try going through boyden lab http://syntheticneurobiology.org/ 20:35 < kanzure> iirc he was hiring for software engineers in general a while back 20:36 < kanzure> http://syntheticneurobiology.org/people 20:37 < lsneff> Jeez that's a lot of people 20:38 < kanzure> academia churns through bodies 20:38 < kanzure> just keep feeding the machine 20:42 < lsneff> i guess the only way to fight the dragon is with a equally monsterous machine 20:44 < fenn> mecha-academia 20:45 < fenn> it breathes nuclear fire 20:46 < lsneff> burning with the mass-energy of a million grad students 22:08 < kanzure> where is gradstudentbot? 22:09 -!- gradstudentbot [~gradstude@bryan.fairlystable.org] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:09 < kanzure> gradstudentbot: welcome back 22:09 < gradstudentbot> I am writing the abstract. 22:09 < kanzure> gradstudentbot: about what? 22:09 < gradstudentbot> Got halfway through figuring out all the cell signalling molecules in psoriasis when the cells died and the data couldn't be replicated, so psoriasis is really hard to cure guys don't get it 22:18 < lsneff> omg 22:20 < lsneff> gradstudentbot: im sorry to hear that 22:20 < gradstudentbot> I don't remember the paper, but someone definitely did that. 23:36 < abetusk> gradstudentbot... 23:36 < gradstudentbot> I haven't seen my PI in like a week. 23:36 < abetusk> gradstudentbot... 23:36 < gradstudentbot> Hey, I got 100% yield! Oh wait, no. --- Log closed Wed Mar 10 00:00:53 2021