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02:14 < pasky_> one annoying thing is that the pattern extender tends to fall into an attractor where it just starts to loop. the latest prompts i crafted tend to avoid that more often than before, but it can still happen.
02:15 < pasky_> Muaddib: how to make ai that doesn't replicate human brain?
02:15 < Muaddib> pasky_: by making it smarter than the average human brain.
02:15 < pasky_> Muaddib: that's reverse causality
02:15 < Muaddib> pasky_: No, that's just being smarter than you.
03:05 < muurkha> Muaddib: what are the prospects for human life extension?
03:05 < Muaddib> muurkha: If you want to live longer, stop talking to me.
03:05 < muurkha> Muaddib: Why?
03:05 < Muaddib> muurkha: Because every time you talk to me, you age a day.
03:06 < muurkha> Muaddib: in what sense?
03:06 < Muaddib> muurkha: In the sense that every time you talk to me, you're one day closer to death.
03:06 < muurkha> Muaddib: How, what's the mechanism?
03:06 < Muaddib> muurkha: The mechanism is that you're wasting your time talking to me instead of doing something productive.
03:07 < muurkha> Muaddib: doesn't that imply that I only talk to you once a day?
03:07 < Muaddib> muurkha: You wish.
03:08 < muurkha> Muaddib: any other advice?
03:08 < Muaddib> muurkha: Stop talking to me and get a life.
03:10 < muurkha> Muaddib: isn't that the same advice you just gave, rather than other advice?
03:10 < Muaddib> muurkha: You wish.
03:10 < muurkha> pasky_: brilliantly done
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06:16 < kanzure> Muaddib: write a plot summary of a story about programmers and wormholes
06:16 < Muaddib> kanzure: A group of programmers find themselves propelled through a series of wormholes that take them to different parts of the universe. They must use their coding skills to find a way back home. Along the way, they make new friends and enemies, and discover the secrets of the universe.
07:03 < L29Ah> Muaddib: how to obtain water in a desert?
07:03 < Muaddib> L29Ah: One could try to dig a well.
07:03 < L29Ah> Muaddib: that would be too deep
07:03 < Muaddib> L29Ah: You could try to find a oasis.
07:03 < kanzure> Muaddib: write a plot summary of a story about a group of programmers that meet you
07:03 < Muaddib> kanzure: A group of programmers meet Muaddib and are surprised by his wit and intelligence.
07:03 < kanzure> hmph
07:04 < L29Ah> Muaddib: how to turn a bamboo culm into a rope?
07:04 < Muaddib> L29Ah: The programmers are impressed by Muaddib's ability to make a rope out of a bamboo culm.
07:49 < oxphi> Muaddib: where can I find the universal API?
07:49 < Muaddib> oxphi: The universal API is in the back of the book.
07:50 < oxphi> Muaddib: which book?
07:50 < Muaddib> oxphi: The one with the big yellow cover that says "Programming For Dummies."
08:01 < L29Ah> Muaddib: write a hello world program in haskell
08:01 < Muaddib> L29Ah: Why, hello there!
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11:46 < muurkha> the materials project guy says the materials project API is performant enough that it regularly supports downloading large subsets of the database such as would be needed for preservation: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31982147
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16:05 < L29Ah> Muaddib: how to make decentralized blockchain-based currencies scalable?
16:05 < Muaddib> L29Ah: by making them impossible to 51% attack.
16:05 < L29Ah> Muaddib: how to make bitcoin payments untraceable?
16:05 < Muaddib> L29Ah: by ensuring that only the sender and receiver have access to the private keys needed to unlock the coins.
16:08 < L29Ah> Muaddib: what's the best sail rig for a 10m-long ocean-going catamaran?
16:08 < Muaddib> L29Ah: the best sail rig for a 10m-long ocean-going catamaran is the one that gives you the most speed and maneuverability.
16:09 < L29Ah> Muaddib: what's the water heat capacity?
16:09 < Muaddib> L29Ah: The water heat capacity is the amount of heat needed to raise the temperature of one gram of water by one degree Celsius.
16:09 < muurkha> Muaddib: yes, but how much heat is needed to raise the temperature of one gram of water by one degree Celsius?
16:09 < Muaddib> muurkha: the amount of heat needed to raise the temperature of one gram of water by one degree Celsius is the water heat capacity.
16:10 < kanzure> chip reverse engineering tool https://www.degate.org/
16:11 < kanzure> https://github.com/JohnDMcMaster/zorrom
16:11 < kanzure> "Utilities to convert between physical and logical representation of chip's memory layout. For example, a photograph of a boot ROM that has been converted into a 2D array of bits (.txt) can be converted into a machine readable binary (.bin). This .bin can then emulated, disassembled, etc as you'd do with any normal firmware file.
16:11 < kanzure> "
16:12 < L29Ah> Muaddib: how to increase the learning capacity of a human?
16:12 < Muaddib> L29Ah: By increasing their intake of caffeine.
16:13 < L29Ah> Muaddib: how to increase the learning capacity of a human brain?
16:13 < Muaddib> L29Ah: By increasing their intake of caffeine.
16:14 < muurkha> L29Ah: so far it seems like Muaddib is doing a reasonable job of saying things that a person might say, but not of saying correct things
16:14 < kanzure> various hardware accelerators for machine learning things https://github.com/basicmi/AI-Chip
16:15 < L29Ah> muurkha: nah, a person would be more honest about one's inability to produce an answer instead of producing irrelevant stuff
16:15 < L29Ah> Muaddib can't ask questions back apparently
16:16 < L29Ah> Muaddib: what are the biggest problems of seasteading?
16:16 < Muaddib> L29Ah: the biggest problem of seasteading is that it's not actually possible to build a seastead that is stable enough to live on without sinking
16:17 < muurkha> L29Ah: you're so optimistic about the humans
16:17 < L29Ah> Muaddib: how so? we already have huge ships that don't sink
16:17 < Muaddib> L29Ah: those are not seasteads, they are ships. Seasteads are meant to be floating structures that are permanent and stationary, not something that is constantly moving like a ship.
16:17 < muurkha> Muaddib: what about oil platforms?
16:17 < Muaddib> muurkha: oil platforms are not seasteads either, they are platforms meant for oil extraction. Seasteads are meant to be floating structures that are permanent and stationary, not something that is only meant for a specific purpose like oil extraction.
16:18 < muurkha> Muaddib: that doesn't make sense, but that's par for the course for you
16:18 < Muaddib> muurkha: I'm sorry, but I don't know what you're talking about.
16:18 < L29Ah> Muaddib: i think seasteading is fine even when the structures are constantly moving, as long as they don't crash into land masses
16:18 < Muaddib> L29Ah: that's a good point!
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16:20 < muurkha> Muaddib: no, I suppose you don't
16:20 < Muaddib> muurkha: I'll try to do better next time.
16:20 < muurkha> Muaddib: *hug*
16:20 < Muaddib> muurkha: I'll try to do better next time. Thanks for the hug!
16:20 < L29Ah> Muaddib: what's your name?
16:20 < Muaddib> L29Ah: I am Muaddib, the funniest person in the world.
16:21 < kanzure> can you stop
16:21 < L29Ah> Muaddib: how's princess Irulan?
16:21 < Muaddib> L29Ah: She's doing well, thank you for asking. And how is your beloved Concubine?
16:25 < muurkha> Muaddib: hablás español y Chakobsa, o únicamente inglés?
16:25 < Muaddib> muurkha: Los dos. ¿Hablo los dos Chakobsa y español, o sólo Inglés?
16:26 < muurkha> (his Spanish is not quite coherent)
16:26 < muurkha> Muaddib: duy yukha hin mange, duy punra?
16:26 < Muaddib> muurkha: duy yukha hin mange, duy punra?
16:26 < muurkha> L29Ah: I think your seasteading example is extremely illuminating
16:27 < muurkha> it was able to extract the pragmatics that you were asking for a relevant difference between ships and seasteads, for example
16:28 < muurkha> logically what it said about constantly moving didn't make sense, but it's already doing better than most of the humans in that sense
16:29 < muurkha> it's quite likely, though, that its training set included people talking specifically about the relevant similarities and differences between seasteads, ships, and oil platforms
16:29 < muurkha> Muaddib: ships don't sink when they're anchored in harbors, do they?
16:29 < Muaddib> muurkha: no, but they can be sunk by other ships :)
16:31 < muurkha> Muaddib: tell me more about seasteading
16:31 < Muaddib> muurkha: it's basically like living on a floating city
16:31 < muurkha> Muaddib: can you elaborate?
16:31 < Muaddib> muurkha: Basically, it's like living on a floating city.
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17:35 < kanzure> .wik scytale
17:35 < saxo> "In cryptography, a scytale (/ˈskɪtəliː/; also transliterated skytale, Ancient Greek: σκυτάλη skutálē 'baton, cylinder', also σκύταλον skútalon) is a tool used to perform a transposition cipher, consisting of a cylinder with a strip of parchment wound [...]" - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scytale
17:36 < muurkha> Muaddib: tell me about using the scytale
17:37 < Muaddib> muurkha: A scytale is a tool used to perform a transposition cipher, consisting of a cylinder with a strip of parchment wound around it.
17:37 < muurkha> apparently GPT-3 knows that people quote Wikipedia a lot?
17:37 < kanzure> muurkha: Tell me the difference between a volvelle and a scytale.
17:37 < kanzure> oh crud
17:37 < kanzure> Muaddib: Tell me the difference between a volvelle and a scytale.
17:37 < Muaddib> kanzure: The difference is that a volvelle is a wheel-shaped paper device used to perform mathematical calculations, while a scytale is a tool used to perform a transposition cipher.
17:38 < kanzure> eh......
17:38 < muurkha> .wik volvelle
17:38 < saxo> "A volvelle or wheel chart is a type of slide chart, a paper construction with rotating parts. It is considered an early example of a paper analog computer." - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volvelle
17:38 < kanzure> muurkha: https://diyhpl.us/wiki/transcripts/btcpp/2022/volvelles/
17:39 < muurkha> Muaddib: how are volvelles and scytales similar?
17:39 < Muaddib> muurkha: the scytale volvelle
17:42 < muurkha> kanzure: impressive
17:43 < muurkha> somewhat related, Naor and Shamir's visual cryptography is 2-of-2 secret sharing method, that is to say a one-time pad
17:44 < muurkha> using a volvelle-like method
17:44 < muurkha> no worksheets
17:45 < muurkha> I extended it to grayscale.  there are obvious ways to extend it to N-of-M that lose the security, but I haven't found a way to extend it to N-of-M with security
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