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06:32 < L29Ah> https://upload.trashserver.net/upload/7b59fab607ce575e9a6d8aae09ca6de33a41a088/bb807YLQuIso2OfRaAjFzIR8Ha9lBflVfikREK4y/RlxZypLER7m8cUmcJJ-qlw.jpg
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09:38 < kanzure> hmph
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11:50 < fenn> https://emilygorcenski.com/post/period-tracker-fears-show-how-badly-overdue-an-american-data-protection-law-is/
11:51 < fenn> L29Ah: the more surprising part of that graph for me was that life expectancy has increased 15 years since 1970
11:51 < fenn> well in some places
11:52 < fenn> is this some artifact of better infant care?
11:53 < fenn> also let's not pretend that $5k is so much cheaper than $10k, they're both ludicrous amounts
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11:55 < fenn> my recent experience with a "modern" cellphone leaves me with much doubt that anybody could possibly keep any data that passed through a cellphone private
11:56 < fenn> but it's interesting to see mainstream people starting to have to deal with this
12:07 < L29Ah> tfw mainstream people can't boycott invasive tech, can only whine about laws
13:31 < nsh> .wik I'm All Right Jack
13:31 < saxo> "I'm All Right Jack is a 1959 British comedy film directed and produced by John and Roy Boulting from a script by Frank Harvey, John Boulting and Alan Hackney based on the 1958 novel Private Life by Alan Hackney. /  The film is a sequel to the Boultings' 1956 film Private's [...]" - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I'm_All_Right_Jack
13:31 < nsh> maybe
13:31 < nsh> .wik I'm alright, Jack
13:31 < saxo> "'I'm alright, Jack' is a British expression used to describe people who act only in their own best interests, even if providing assistance to others would take minimal to no effort on their behalf." - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I'm_alright,_Jack
13:33 < nsh> otoh you do get this tiny little bit of dopamine when you do the defeatist-masquerading-as-elitist sneer so it's all a tough circle to square 
13:34 < nsh> reckon just keep on keeping on how you're keeping on will result in things keeping on how they're keeping on if that's what we want anyway
13:37 < nsh> not my problem is a several rungs below i can fix it, and i can fix it is several rungs below praxis cf. https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/nerd-teacher-sometimes-how-can-i-fix-it-is-the-wrong-question
13:40 < nsh> evolution entails actualising that which obsoletes another
14:04 < kanzure> computer history museum was a lot of fun
14:11 < lsneff> Maybe I’ll go there on Saturday
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15:19 < fenn> i wish they had more computers that were actually functional, and you could try out CP/M or space invaders or whatever
15:19 < fenn> dead hardware sitting on a shelf is lame in comparison to my imaginary computer history museum
15:19 < fenn> setting up an emulator to run CP/M is not a trivial task one does for fun
15:31 < kanzure> the layout was interesting and had some abrupt jumps
15:32 < kanzure> the mechanical computers and paper tape processor progression made sense, but they didn't motivate the "hey let's put all this mess of wires into planar semiconductor circuits instead" leap
15:33 < kanzure> also i don't think there was an 8008 on exhibit? that was odd.
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