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12:44 < fenn> a couple billion cubic feet of helium for sale https://gsaauctions.gov/gsaauctions/aucdsclnk?sl=FTWOR722018001
12:46 < kanzure> why is this on the market? helium is scarce
13:01 < fenn> people don't value unrenewable resources as much as they should
13:01 < fenn> once it's used it's gone forever
13:15 < L29Ah> helium is as renewable as earth
13:17 < fenn> it takes a lot more effort to launch earth onto an extrasolar trajectory
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13:21 < fenn> send talent scouts to https://biologybowl.org/
13:21 < L29Ah> fenn: currently helium mostly comes from nuclear fission in the earth crust
13:21 < L29Ah> grabbing it from solar wind would be much more annoying
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13:23 < fenn> my point is that you can't cause earth to be 'gone forever' as easily as with helium
13:23 < fenn> you just let it out of a balloon and then a series of energy transfer processes result in the helium going up, up, and away
13:23 < fenn> with earth it tends to stay put
13:24 < fenn> also we're going to need that helium
13:24 < L29Ah> you can't cause helium to be 'gone forever' as long as there's earth
13:24 < fenn> i don't understand
13:24 < fenn> the replenishment rate is very slow
13:25 < L29Ah> as it generates helium for you
13:29 < fenn> huh biocurious is still around? i haven't heard anything out of there for years
13:30 < L29Ah> if you need that helium, buy it and then sell it for much monies
13:32 < fenn> https://biocurious.org/projects/
13:33 < fenn> emi and nikola nikolov were doing something with surface plasmon resonance (sensors?)
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17:46 < kanzure> how does one allocate additional compute capacity in the globally-scarce-everyone-is-computed model of the world?
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18:06 < L29Ah> one buys it on the market
18:11 < kanzure> "Why it is important to study human–monkey embryonic chimeras in a dish" https://www.nature.com/articles/s41592-022-01571-7
18:12 < kanzure> "New intranasal and injectable gene therapy for healthy life extension" https://www.pnas.org/doi/full/10.1073/pnas.2121499119
18:13 < kanzure> TDT/RNA method https://patents.google.com/patent/US20220145295A1/en
18:49 < kanzure> "The first book of the Foundation series was written in 1951. It was not just a story of a galactic empire — it was the first story of a galactic empire. Never before had anyone thought seriously about the dynamics of a polity consisting of millions of worlds containing trillions of humans spread across the Milky Way."
18:49 < kanzure> i didn't know it was the first..
23:31 < fenn> how did the TDT patent come up?
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