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05:36 < kanzure> hmph
05:49 < darsie> .
06:02 < fenn> .title https://whoswho.senescence.info
06:02 < saxo> Who's Who in Gerontology: Researchers and Companies Working on Aging
06:13 < fenn> .title http://imgur.com/a/LVkBacq
06:13 < saxo> Longevity companies sorted by funding - Album on Imgur
06:40 < fenn> dude looks a lot older than 58 in the pic https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_Carlos_Izpisua_Belmonte
06:40 < L29Ah> ultraviolet kills
06:41 < fenn> vitamin D deficiency kills too
06:41 < L29Ah> https://www.vitacost.com/now-vitamin-d-3-50000-iu-50-softgels
06:42 < fenn> won't somebody please think of the reefs?!
06:43 < fenn> so that's like one a week? i wonder why they didn't go with 52
06:43 < L29Ah> a week or two, yes
06:44 < fenn> i have the 10k IU ones and take them irregularly
06:44 < L29Ah> crontab -e
06:44 < L29Ah> notify-send
06:44 < fenn> 10k/day is probably fine though
06:45  * L29Ah limits his consumption to 5k/day
06:47 < fenn> heh the Y axis on the vitamin D toxicity chart starts at 10k https://vitamindwiki.com/dl1485?display
06:50 < jrayhawk> i am so used to getting pissed off at shitty vitamin d literature that i am legitimately surprised and confused when somebody posts something that is legitimately good and informative
06:53 < jrayhawk> what am i supposed to be feeling? is there beauty in this world? who am i as a human being?
06:53 < fenn> uh, i hope this was in the good and informative category
06:56 < jrayhawk> you have transcended my ability to criticize
06:56 < jrayhawk> i am a purposeless husk of a man
07:04 < kanzure> this seems to say that signatures over software releases should be timestamped without actually saying "use timestamps" https://eprint.iacr.org/2022/995 because otherwise an adversary can retroactively make a signature for a fake old version
07:04 < kanzure> "stealing a vendor's key today doesn't allow modifying yesterday's software version"
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09:08 < kanzure> .wik kikiki huna
09:08 < saxo> "Kikiki is a genus of fairyfly wasps containing a single species, Kikiki huna, known from Hawaii, Costa Rica, Nagarcoil and Trinidad." - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kikiki_huna
09:08 < kanzure> "At 0.15 mm (0.0059 in) (150 μm), it is the smallest flying insect known as of 2019"
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10:08 < L29Ah> https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1058943/
10:08 < L29Ah> Both experiments failed to show any effect of the tongue brushing on plaque formation. 
10:11 < kanzure> toothpaste doesn't seem to have a strong difference on plaque removal either
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12:50 < nmz787> .g chlorhexidine "body odor" "arm pits"
12:50 < saxo> https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2009-sep-28-he-pharmacy28-story.html
12:50  * nmz787 wonders if this would work, and why it isn't the default as compared to perfumes + soap
12:50 < nmz787> perfumed soa[p
12:52 < nmz787> https://www.reddit.com/r/xxketo/comments/6ukd4e/keto_pits_try_chlorhexidine_scrub/
12:52 < nmz787> (the bot's response was prtty off-topic)
12:52 < nmz787> loet
12:52 < nmz787> let's try again
12:52 < nmz787> .g chlorhexidine face worms
12:52 < saxo> https://www.petplace.com/article/drug-library/drug-library/library/chlorhexidine-for-dogs-and-cats/
12:53 < nmz787> I actually meant this https://www.theguardian.com/science/2022/jun/22/tiny-mites-demodex-folliculorum-parasites-gene-loss
12:54 < L29Ah> soap is cheap and lowtech
12:54 < nmz787> why aren't there all sorts of face creams targetting people's fear of "face worms"???
12:54 < L29Ah> perfume is perceived as luxurious
12:54 < nmz787> my point is all deodorant is, is perfumed bar soap in a plastic tube
12:55 < nmz787> it doesn't really do anything, I guess maybe it lyses bacteria a little?
12:55 < L29Ah> also it turned out to be hard to find pure chlorhexidine solution in .me
12:55 < L29Ah> nmz787: soap is very good at destroying bacteria
12:55 < L29Ah> and no, there are deodorants that aren't soap with perfume
12:56 < L29Ah> at least there are deodorants that block perspiration
12:56 < nmz787> hmm, pretty much all I've seen have stearic acid as the first ingredient, even anti-perspirants
12:56 < nmz787> "These parasites are common. One study found them in 25% of 20-year-olds, 30% of 50-year-olds and 100% in patients older than 90 years old."
12:57 < L29Ah> i don't know much tho, i'm a pig and only use soap a couple of times a week
12:57 < nmz787> according to rando-internet site https://www.news-medical.net/health/New-Approaches-for-Fighting-Demodex-Mites.aspx
12:58 < nmz787> or why not UV LED armpit lights built into shirts
12:58 < nmz787> (hehe)
12:58 < nmz787> just seems like so much untapped fear in the marketplace
12:59 < L29Ah> plz tap into K-40 fear first
13:00 < nmz787> K40 CO2 lasers?
13:00 < nmz787> I have one
13:00 < L29Ah> radioactive potassium
13:00 < L29Ah> IN OUR FOOD CHAIN!
13:02 < L29Ah> > "These parasites are common. One study found them in 25% of 20-year-olds, 30% of 50-year-olds and 100% in patients older than 90 years old."
13:02 < L29Ah> not sure if ensuring longevity or leading to death :philosoraptor:
13:02 < L29Ah> time to sleep
13:06 < nmz787> radioactivity is too smart for most ppl it seems
13:06 < nmz787> but PARASITES IN YOUR FACE 
13:07 < nmz787> (though I think new data suggests they are trending to symbionts)
13:07 < nmz787> or maybe it was dependency on us
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15:31 < darsie> demodex?
15:31 < darsie> mhm
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19:39 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/CauseOfProblem/status/1555081082076217344
19:39 < saxo> @VectorOfBasis @malignCreative Friend computer has calculated that your placement in the human flourishing mines will maximize global expected utility. (@CauseOfProblem, in reply to tw:1554918397917396993)
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