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10:03 < nmz787> pros and cons of cloacas?
10:03 < nmz787> .wik cloaca
10:03 < saxo> "In animal anatomy, a cloaca (/kloʊˈeɪkə/ kloh-AY-kə), plural cloacae (/kloʊˈeɪsi/ kloh-AY-see or /kloʊˈeɪki/ kloh-AY-kee), is the posterior orifice that serves as the only opening for the digestive, reproductive, and urinary tracts (if present) of many vertebrate [...]" - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloaca
10:04 < nmz787> in the sense of, why don't humans have at least a shared urinary/fecal outlet?
10:04 < nmz787> seems like it could be self-cleaning with the urine sequenced after feces
10:04 < nmz787> (mostly self-cleaning anyway)
10:06 < muurkha> oh, I thought you meant "what are the advantages and disadvantages of municipal sewage systems with respect to alternatives such as septic tanks and dumping your chamber pot out the window'
10:06 < muurkha> it took me a while to realize that actually in English "cloaca" does not mean that kind of sewer
10:07 < kanzure> be the change you want to see in the world
10:07 < muurkha> advantages as you point out include being mostly self-cleaning, though human rectums are already usually pretty self-cleaning, as you probably know if you've had anal sex
10:08 < nmz787> h+ yo
10:08 < nmz787> muurkha: idk I use water to clean my rectum pretty much every time I use the toilet
10:08 < nmz787> err
10:08 < nmz787> anus
10:09 < nmz787> maybe you are less hairy
10:09 < muurkha> yeah, the humans' anal fold is not very self-cleaning, but the rectum (on the other side of the anus) is
10:09 < muurkha> also I think the lower parts count is an advantage
10:10 < muurkha> less to go wrong.  no risk of a rectovesicular fistula, for example
10:12 < muurkha> in terms of disadvantages, I think a sphincter for restraining solids has a much higher acceptable leakage rate than a sphincter for restraining liquids, while the latter can be much smaller
10:12 < muurkha> you'll note that cloaca-equipped animals like birds and snakes have solid urine ("bird slice")
10:13 < muurkha> and lacking a direct passage from rectum to bladder reduces the risk of kidney infections, which can be very serious
10:29 < nmz787> .wik rectovesicular fistula
10:29 < saxo> Article not found: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rectovesicular_fistula gave 404 | Searched en for 'rectovesicular fistula' | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_result_found gave 404 | Searched en for 'No result found'
10:29 < nmz787> .g rectovesicular fistula
10:29 < saxo> https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/rectovaginal-fistula/symptoms-causes/syc-20377108
10:30 < nmz787> even just like, pointing the urethra opening at the anus could be useful
10:30 < nmz787> built-in bidet
10:30 < nmz787> then you also have you air-gap for infections
10:31 < nmz787> (prevention)
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10:42 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/mattparlmer/status/1560020986732453888
10:42 < saxo> What if we did widespread human genetic engineering and it turned out fine? (@mattparlmer)
10:46 < muurkha> (rectovaginal fistula is a different problem)
11:15 < nmz787> kanzure: hold my beer (goes to genetically engineer a cloaca-human which turns out terribly)
11:16 < nmz787> two-assed kardashians, on the way!
11:21 < nmz787> Muaddib: what would kim kardashian and kanye west's multi-assed child's name be
11:21 < Muaddib> nmz787: Kardashasshole
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12:29 < muurkha> Muaddib: what is your rectovesicular fistula's name?
12:29 < Muaddib> muurkha: Kardashasshole
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15:20 < L29Ah> Muaddib: where would it be on the Kardashev scale?
15:20 < Muaddib> L29Ah: Kardashasshole
15:27 < nmz787> way less clever responses than I'd hoped for
15:42 < muurkha> Muaddib: I am disappointed in your responses
15:42 < Muaddib> muurkha: Disappointing people is what I do best
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