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06:44 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/richabdill/status/1582483998554525697
06:44 < saxo> From what I can tell, the first freshwater angelfish genome was just published by a high schooler using a MinION to sequence the DNA of his dead pet: https://www.micropublication.org/journals/biology/micropub-biology-000654 (@richabdill)
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07:29 < lsneff> A future where APM is initially encumbered by patents is probably better than one where it’s not because then corporations will be less incentivized to hide their innovations and people can just steal the patents regardless
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08:56 < nsh> one might recall that being the point of the patent system and intellectual property more generally as originally envisions
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09:01  * L29Ah thought the point of the patent system and intellectual property is to create jobs for lawyers
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14:15 < kanzure> andytoshi: are you still using jotmuch?
14:16 < kanzure> i thought i had something for getting it to work in python3, which i can't find, and it seems i was actually running a python2.7 version?
14:16 < andytoshi> kanzure: no, i switched to buku
14:16 < andytoshi> and i never did import my jotmuch history .. you gave me a .yaml dump of it, which i sometimes just search with vim
14:49 < kanzure> oof
14:49 < kanzure> alright
14:50 < kanzure> is xapian even that good? why does it use xapian?
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17:25 < docl> .t https://xapian.org/
17:25 < saxo> The Xapian Project
17:27 < docl> apparently there's an ai company by that name as well specializing in fraud detection
17:28 < docl> currently I'm going down the fossil-scm rabbit hole. it strikes me as better than git for small projects without thousands of users
17:29 < docl> .t https://fossil-scm.org/
17:29 < saxo> Fossil: Home
17:31 < maaku> Fossil is better than fit in every way except one: you can’t use it on GitHub 
17:31 < maaku> git
17:31 < maaku> I wish someone revived monotone
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17:32 < L29Ah> maaku: does it have a consistent CLI?
17:33 < docl> well, my dayjob uses git, and I'm an anti-microsoft person for the time being so avoiding github is a plus (although there are other git services and multiple web uis you can use)
17:35 < maaku> Monotone? Very consistent. It has the most consistent, best documented CLI of any DVCS ever.
17:35 < docl> fossil's cli isn't the same as git's, but it's not bad
17:35  * L29Ah is a git fanboy, mostly due to his ignorance of most of the more modern vcs'es, would love to read some overview with $vcsname beating all the strong points of git
17:36 < L29Ah> bonus points for double-sided git repo conversion :]
17:36 < L29Ah> *bidirectional
17:36 < docl> yep
17:37 < maaku> Got is the C of version control. A foot gun loaded Rube Goldberg nightmare that nevertheless is performant, and everywhere.
17:37  * L29Ah hugs his `git rebase -i`
17:38 < L29Ah> tho i find myself more and more doing `git log -p | grep`
17:39 < maaku> A proper DVCS shouldn’t require rebasing, ever.
17:39 < L29Ah> indeed
17:39 < docl> .t https://www2.fossil-scm.org/home/doc/trunk/www/gitusers.md
17:39 < saxo> Fossil: Git to Fossil Translation Guide
17:39 < maaku> Pigil should be good if they can ever finalize the implementation 
17:39 < L29Ah> still there should be a "make the history look cleaner" button
17:47 < muurkha> I'm not a fan of rebase in Git
17:47 < muurkha> but I feel like either rebasing or not rebasing can be reasonable
17:47 < maaku> Well with a daarcs like model there is not history, in the git sense, which is better.
17:48 < muurkha> I've used darcs but I'm not confident it's better
17:51 < maaku> daarcs is slow. It uses some linear algorithms that don’t scale well with large repos
17:52 < maaku> pigil, in principle, fixes this with sub linear algos that should equal or exceed git’s speed
17:52 < muurkha> darcs used to be exponential-time in certain cases
17:52 < maaku> While still being based on patch theory, so you don’t have to muck around with history and rebasing, ever.
17:53 < maaku> Right. I remembered it was bad, I thought linear.
17:53 < maaku> I think they’ve gotten rid of the exponential stuff at least.
17:54 < muurkha> I'd heard something about that
18:16 < L29Ah> all the haskell projects i know moved from darcs to git over the last 10 years
18:17 < L29Ah> personally i couldn't stand that darcs was interactive in some cases
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18:37 <+gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=db0ff6ed David A. Harding: Add whitespace to 2022-10-11-package-relay.mdwn >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/transcripts/bitcoin-core-dev-tech/2022-10-11-package-relay/
18:37 <+gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=912bb244 Bryan Bishop: Merge pull request #241 from harding/patch-1 >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/
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18:42 < kanzure> https://www.city-journal.org/nih-blocks-access-to-genetics-database
22:30 < nmz787> oh damn, that's not cool
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